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New PK System flaw?

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"SCAMMER"Reduce PK range to 10.

Change it so that when you hit someone grey, you can't get hit by someone that is 10 levels above or below you.

Increase immunity to 2 hours instead of 30 minutes.

Simple.


That stops ur hi int/ lower levs havin a chance to flex their muscle against higher lev ( lower int players) (( salva/ap3)) come to mind
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="SCAMMER"]Reduce PK range to 10. Change it so that when you hit someone grey, you can't get hit by someone that is 10 levels above or below you. Increase immunity to 2 hours instead of 30 minutes. Simple.[/quote] That stops ur hi int/ lower levs havin a chance to flex their muscle against higher lev ( lower int players) (( salva/ap3)) come to mind[/quote]
"YOKOHAMA"So, whilst hunting away with a few other people at Hoarde, Tongskie rocks up, looking to PK I presume. He then realises he is about 40 levels too high to attack ~lvl 50/60 chars.

As if by magic Tongskie multi boxes his other char Sven in and begins to attack with Tongskie off screen. So instead of just letting ourselves be killed by a similar leveled char we attack back.

At this point he switches clients and is now able to hit us with a lvl 100+ because we tried to defend ourselves.

Now I'm all for PVP but this is just blatant abuse of a game mechanic to grieff noobs.


This has nothing to do with the PK immunity system that was added today.

It is a change that was made 11 months ago (Characters that attack a grey or low moral character will be flagged into a mode where they can be PKed by anyone at any level.). I forgot to note what the context was for this change so it can be removed but I know that it does cause another issue when it is removed (it wouldn't have been changed in the first place).

Edit:

Found the thread about it: PK cap change

The change was made because a gray character could be attacked by characters of any level but then the gray character could not attack back if the other character was not within level difference.

I'll have a think what can be done about it.

Maybe only allowing gray characters to attack characters that can be PKed by anyone at any level.

Or maybe keeping a list of characters who attacked the gray character and only allowing the gray character to attack those characters.
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[quote="FINITO"][quote="YOKOHAMA"]So, whilst hunting away with a few other people at Hoarde, Tongskie rocks up, looking to PK I presume. He then realises he is about 40 levels too high to attack ~lvl 50/60 chars. As if by magic Tongskie multi boxes his other char Sven in and begins to attack with Tongskie off screen. So instead of just letting ourselves be killed by a similar leveled char we attack back. At this point he switches clients and is now able to hit us with a lvl 100+ because we tried to defend ourselves. Now I'm all for PVP but this is just blatant abuse of a game mechanic to grieff noobs.[/quote] This has nothing to do with the PK immunity system that was added today. It is a change that was made 11 months ago (Characters that attack a grey or low moral character will be flagged into a mode where they can be PKed by anyone at any level.). I forgot to note what the context was for this change so it can be removed but I know that it does cause another issue when it is removed (it wouldn't have been changed in the first place). [b]Edit:[/b] Found the thread about it: [url=https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=12946&title=pk+cap+change+%2D&Page=1]PK cap change[/url] The change was made because a gray character could be attacked by characters of any level but then the gray character could not attack back if the other character was not within level difference. I'll have a think what can be done about it. Maybe only allowing gray characters to attack characters that can be PKed by anyone at any level. Or maybe keeping a list of characters who attacked the gray character and only allowing the gray character to attack those characters.[/quote]
Fin it was added because a low level was pking someone and high levels couldn’t fight back to defend there low level friend because of the gap (the fix works perfectly for that)

The issue is if your a low level you can’t fight back or you get level 110s that can hit you even though you are only defending yourself, I had this happen to me with Cupid ala and subxero a while back, sub was hitting my alt and I couldn’t hit back as they had brought two capped chars, which makes the whole level range pointless.

I fully agree that when grey any character should be able to hit you, but if you are defending yourself that shouldn’t break the 15 level put in place.

As for the new system I’m not a fan, basically means I am forced to die, twice or people can follow me all day, but I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve tried it.

Gand
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[quote="GANDALF"]Fin it was added because a low level was pking someone and high levels couldn’t fight back to defend there low level friend because of the gap (the fix works perfectly for that) The issue is if your a low level you can’t fight back or you get level 110s that can hit you even though you are only defending yourself, I had this happen to me with Cupid ala and subxero a while back, sub was hitting my alt and I couldn’t hit back as they had brought two capped chars, which makes the whole level range pointless. I fully agree that when grey any character should be able to hit you, but if you are defending yourself that shouldn’t break the 15 level put in place. As for the new system I’m not a fan, basically means I am forced to die, twice or people can follow me all day, but I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve tried it. Gand[/quote]
"GANDALF"I fully agree that when grey any character should be able to hit you, but if you are defending yourself that shouldn’t break the 15 level put in place.


Yeah the issue is the gray character cannot defend themselves (against the higher level characters) if characters outside the level range start attacking them.

So maybe a fix is to only put characters into the mode where they can be PKed by anyone at any level only if they attack a gray character while also being outside of their level range. So then characters that are within the level range will not be put into that mode and therefore cannot be attacked by anyone (including characters outside the PK level range).
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[quote="FINITO"][quote="GANDALF"]I fully agree that when grey any character should be able to hit you, but if you are defending yourself that shouldn’t break the 15 level put in place.[/quote] Yeah the issue is the gray character cannot defend themselves (against the higher level characters) if characters outside the level range start attacking them. So maybe a fix is to only put characters into the mode where they can be PKed by anyone at any level only if they attack a gray character while also being outside of their level range. So then characters that are within the level range will not be put into that mode and therefore cannot be attacked by anyone (including characters outside the PK level range).[/quote]
"CUPID"The reasons pk has been changed....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DTvnvg-LLU&t=29s

https://youtu.be/VDgB0XY-wmc?t=7m7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tOMeE4JnbI

https://youtu.be/Cou_R5gyVUw?t=2m38s


That Kajoken wreckage lool good times, glad I no longer play all the crying and whining sucked all the fun out of this game for me. Check the forums now and then and see not a thing has changed lol.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="CUPID"]The reasons pk has been changed.... [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DTvnvg-LLU&t=29s[/url] [url]https://youtu.be/VDgB0XY-wmc?t=7m7s[/url] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tOMeE4JnbI[/url] [url]https://youtu.be/Cou_R5gyVUw?t=2m38s[/url][/quote] That Kajoken wreckage lool good times, glad I no longer play all the crying and whining sucked all the fun out of this game for me. Check the forums now and then and see not a thing has changed lol.[/quote]
lvl 58 should not be greifed and drop items by lvl 110 fin ty m8
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[quote="MINGEPIECE"]lvl 58 should not be greifed and drop items by lvl 110 fin ty m8[/quote]
"YOKOHAMA"So, whilst hunting away with a few other people at Hoarde, Tongskie rocks up, looking to PK I presume. He then realises he is about 40 levels too high to attack ~lvl 50/60 chars.

As if by magic Tongskie multi boxes his other char Sven in and begins to attack with Tongskie off screen. So instead of just letting ourselves be killed by a similar leveled char we attack back.

At this point he switches clients and is now able to hit us with a lvl 100+ because we tried to defend ourselves.

Now I'm all for PVP but this is just blatant abuse of a game mechanic to grieff noobs.



So u died once! Then calling it abusing or griefin?come on man!
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[quote="TONGSKIE"][quote="YOKOHAMA"]So, whilst hunting away with a few other people at Hoarde, Tongskie rocks up, looking to PK I presume. He then realises he is about 40 levels too high to attack ~lvl 50/60 chars. As if by magic Tongskie multi boxes his other char Sven in and begins to attack with Tongskie off screen. So instead of just letting ourselves be killed by a similar leveled char we attack back. At this point he switches clients and is now able to hit us with a lvl 100+ because we tried to defend ourselves. Now I'm all for PVP but this is just blatant abuse of a game mechanic to grieff noobs. [img]https://i.imgur.com/bfGVsoH.png[/img][/quote] So u died once! Then calling it abusing or griefin?come on man![/quote]
"FINITO"
"GANDALF"I fully agree that when grey any character should be able to hit you, but if you are defending yourself that shouldn’t break the 15 level put in place.


Yeah the issue is the gray character cannot defend themselves (against the higher level characters) if characters outside the level range start attacking them.

So maybe a fix is to only put characters into the mode where they can be PKed by anyone at any level only if they attack a gray character while also being outside of their level range. So then characters that are within the level range will not be put into that mode and therefore cannot be attacked by anyone (including characters outside the PK level range).


I have added the above fix to the server (hopefully not overlooked anything that can cause another problem). Characters will now only go into the mode where they can be attacked by anyone if they attack gray or low moral characters that are outside the PK level difference. If you attack gray or low moral characters within the PK level difference then you are not put into the mode and therefore can defend without having characters outside the PK level difference jumping in.
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[quote="FINITO"][quote="FINITO"][quote="GANDALF"]I fully agree that when grey any character should be able to hit you, but if you are defending yourself that shouldn’t break the 15 level put in place.[/quote] Yeah the issue is the gray character cannot defend themselves (against the higher level characters) if characters outside the level range start attacking them. So maybe a fix is to only put characters into the mode where they can be PKed by anyone at any level only if they attack a gray character while also being outside of their level range. So then characters that are within the level range will not be put into that mode and therefore cannot be attacked by anyone (including characters outside the PK level range).[/quote] I have added the above fix to the server (hopefully not overlooked anything that can cause another problem). Characters will now only go into the mode where they can be attacked by anyone if they attack gray or low moral characters that are outside the PK level difference. If you attack gray or low moral characters within the PK level difference then you are not put into the mode and therefore can defend without having characters outside the PK level difference jumping in.[/quote]
Cupid, go home you’re drunk.
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[quote="TYRESE"]Cupid, go home you’re drunk.[/quote]
Realy impressed how quick Fin has jumped on this and implimented a fix so it can no longer be abused.

Cupid Im not sure what you was trying to contribute to this thread other then trolling? Which is fine I like to troll just dont moan about toxic rivalry.
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[quote="OCD"]Realy impressed how quick Fin has jumped on this and implimented a fix so it can no longer be abused. Cupid Im not sure what you was trying to contribute to this thread other then trolling? Which is fine I like to troll just dont moan about toxic rivalry.[/quote]
when is the immunity going live btw? As its clear by the feed you can still be chain killed.
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[quote="1355"]when is the immunity going live btw? As its clear by the feed you can still be chain killed.[/quote]
"TONGSKIE"
"YOKOHAMA"So, whilst hunting away with a few other people at Hoarde, Tongskie rocks up, looking to PK I presume. He then realises he is about 40 levels too high to attack ~lvl 50/60 chars.

As if by magic Tongskie multi boxes his other char Sven in and begins to attack with Tongskie off screen. So instead of just letting ourselves be killed by a similar leveled char we attack back.

At this point he switches clients and is now able to hit us with a lvl 100+ because we tried to defend ourselves.

Now I'm all for PVP but this is just blatant abuse of a game mechanic to grieff noobs.



So u died once! Then calling it abusing or griefin?come on man!


Genuinely surprised your mud hut gets internet.
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[quote="THEMAT"][quote="TONGSKIE"][quote="YOKOHAMA"]So, whilst hunting away with a few other people at Hoarde, Tongskie rocks up, looking to PK I presume. He then realises he is about 40 levels too high to attack ~lvl 50/60 chars. As if by magic Tongskie multi boxes his other char Sven in and begins to attack with Tongskie off screen. So instead of just letting ourselves be killed by a similar leveled char we attack back. At this point he switches clients and is now able to hit us with a lvl 100+ because we tried to defend ourselves. Now I'm all for PVP but this is just blatant abuse of a game mechanic to grieff noobs. [img]https://i.imgur.com/bfGVsoH.png[/img][/quote] So u died once! Then calling it abusing or griefin?come on man![/quote] Genuinely surprised your mud hut gets internet. [/quote]
"MINGEPIECE"lvl 58 should not be greifed and drop items by lvl 110 fin ty m8


lmao u are such a hypocrite you went grey on a lvl100+ during a pk war at GVW ended up with 10% penalty got forced warped and droped an item
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[quote="MANTICORE"][quote="MINGEPIECE"]lvl 58 should not be greifed and drop items by lvl 110 fin ty m8[/quote] lmao u are such a hypocrite you went grey on a lvl100+ during a pk war at GVW ended up with 10% penalty got forced warped and droped an item[/quote]
3 words ... pk system bad
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[quote="BIGGY"]3 words ... pk system bad [/quote]
"CUPID"THE REASON PK GOT CHANGED
CLICK ME =====>>>>> https://youtu.be/Cou_R5gyVUw?t=2m35s


Where did that other video go? :)
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[quote="LINKDX"][quote="CUPID"][b]THE REASON PK GOT CHANGED[/B] CLICK ME =====>>>>> [url]https://youtu.be/Cou_R5gyVUw?t=2m35s[/url][/quote] Where did that other video go? :)[/quote]

 

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