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Nerf eva or boost ACC

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When cap was lvl 100 having 7/7/7/11 eva (which most people have now) wasn't the end of the world as the stats were either

120 dex 171 str ISH

or pure dex bit of str and int was 134/134 ish i.e hadou

Now chars are rocking 180 dex 210 str quite easy adding a % evasion to this number is making it quite easy to hit 99% evasion on decent chars with some ACC.

With 11% titus boots, 8/10% dodge aura its hard for ACC to level it out as there is no ACC aura or 11% acc boots.

The higher the stats and cap raise go the more apparent this will be adding 7/7/7/11/10 evasion to a build. It will just turn back into esoma where everyone wears eva. Its starting to happen already and next patch it will only get worse.

I think a new item/aura to counteract the 19-21% extra evasion that is added from the titus and auras would be a good move for the server. And cap Evasion in pvp to 80-90% not 99%
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[quote="SUBXERO"]When cap was lvl 100 having 7/7/7/11 eva (which most people have now) wasn't the end of the world as the stats were either 120 dex 171 str ISH or pure dex bit of str and int was 134/134 ish i.e hadou Now chars are rocking 180 dex 210 str quite easy adding a % evasion to this number is making it quite easy to hit 99% evasion on decent chars with some ACC. With 11% titus boots, 8/10% dodge aura its hard for ACC to level it out as there is no ACC aura or 11% acc boots. The higher the stats and cap raise go the more apparent this will be adding 7/7/7/11/10 evasion to a build. It will just turn back into esoma where everyone wears eva. Its starting to happen already and next patch it will only get worse. I think a new item/aura to counteract the 19-21% extra evasion that is added from the titus and auras would be a good move for the server. And cap Evasion in pvp to 80-90% not 99% [/quote]
No 11% acc boots but no 11% eva helm but i do think eva is op
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[quote="AOUMIE"]No 11% acc boots but no 11% eva helm but i do think eva is op[/quote]
Actually when i wrote this i forgot about the helm

But eva is op and makes the game pretty boring like esoma turned out
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[quote="SUBXERO"]Actually when i wrote this i forgot about the helm But eva is op and makes the game pretty boring like esoma turned out[/quote]
Sorry, this is the worst suggestion ever.

Going high dex is done at a cost to other stats and is a legitimate gameplay tactic. ,,,,,,

Bow has already been repeatedly nerfed (the evasion character's weapon of choice for levelling) and "evasion" itself has been significantly nerfed from esoma.

you can't just keep nerfing things because you don't like it.

As I have been repeatedly told when I have found a particular aspect of the game unfavourable; "you chose to build your character that way, get used to it".

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[quote="PROWLER"]Sorry, this is the worst suggestion ever. Going high dex is done at a cost to other stats and is a legitimate gameplay tactic. ,,,,,, Bow has already been repeatedly nerfed (the evasion character's weapon of choice for levelling) and "evasion" itself has been significantly nerfed from esoma. you can't just keep nerfing things because you don't like it. As I have been repeatedly told when I have found a particular aspect of the game unfavourable; "you chose to build your character that way, get used to it". [/quote]

"SUBXERO"When cap was lvl 100 having 7/7/7/11 eva (which most people have now) wasn't the end of the world as the stats were either

120 dex 171 str ISH

or pure dex bit of str and int was 134/134 ish i.e hadou

Now chars are rocking 180 dex 210 str quite easy adding a % evasion to this number is making it quite easy to hit 99% evasion on decent chars with some ACC.

With 11% titus boots, 8/10% dodge aura its hard for ACC to level it out as there is no ACC aura or 11% acc boots.

The higher the stats and cap raise go the more apparent this will be adding 7/7/7/11/10 evasion to a build. It will just turn back into esoma where everyone wears eva. Its starting to happen already and next patch it will only get worse.

I think a new item/aura to counteract the 19-21% extra evasion that is added from the titus and auras would be a good move for the server. And cap Evasion in pvp to 80-90% not 99%


WTF LOL

You have a mage char that can easily 1 bang people, if we complain, response is hey why didnt you do more int?

You make a str char that can kill bosses a lot easier and kept your dex 150ish but now its our fault for choosing a dexy char and you want a nerf on it?
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[quote="DARE"] [quote="SUBXERO"]When cap was lvl 100 having 7/7/7/11 eva (which most people have now) wasn't the end of the world as the stats were either 120 dex 171 str ISH or pure dex bit of str and int was 134/134 ish i.e hadou Now chars are rocking 180 dex 210 str quite easy adding a % evasion to this number is making it quite easy to hit 99% evasion on decent chars with some ACC. With 11% titus boots, 8/10% dodge aura its hard for ACC to level it out as there is no ACC aura or 11% acc boots. The higher the stats and cap raise go the more apparent this will be adding 7/7/7/11/10 evasion to a build. It will just turn back into esoma where everyone wears eva. Its starting to happen already and next patch it will only get worse. I think a new item/aura to counteract the 19-21% extra evasion that is added from the titus and auras would be a good move for the server. And cap Evasion in pvp to 80-90% not 99% [/quote] WTF LOL You have a mage char that can easily 1 bang people, if we complain, response is hey why didnt you do more int? You make a str char that can kill bosses a lot easier and kept your dex 150ish but now its our fault for choosing a dexy char and you want a nerf on it?[/quote]
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[quote="DR_EVIL"]-1[/quote]
u should have built a dex char thn matty instead of ruining subxero by stopping at 155 dex lol

also stop saying for the server whn ur quite transpartent in the fact its for ur own gain
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[quote="QXJIANG"]u should have built a dex char thn matty instead of ruining subxero by stopping at 155 dex lol also stop saying for the server whn ur quite transpartent in the fact its for ur own gain[/quote]
Why would you only cap evasion to 90% for PVP? That's a build problem than a gameplay problem.
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]Why would you only cap evasion to 90% for PVP? That's a build problem than a gameplay problem. [/quote]
I dont pvp so it dont really affect me but the original introduction of accuracy on esoma was to counteract evasion builds and accuracy gave more in upgrades than evasion did to support this.

I always thought it was odd that keen's and dp's add the same amount on this server as you're simply cancelling it out but you have more sources of evasion than accuracy via rings/auras etc. I cant remember the exact value for esoma keen but im pretty sure +1 was 7% then it prob went 2% 2% 1% 1%? The dp was 5% 2% 2% 1% 1% if i remember rightly.

However due to the UC and popularity of evasion it may be worth leaving it alone. I do think all builds should be countered by something so if there is any build that has no answer then a counter answer upgrade wise should be introduced.
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[quote="LORD_GRIM"]I dont pvp so it dont really affect me but the original introduction of accuracy on esoma was to counteract evasion builds and accuracy gave more in upgrades than evasion did to support this. I always thought it was odd that keen's and dp's add the same amount on this server as you're simply cancelling it out but you have more sources of evasion than accuracy via rings/auras etc. I cant remember the exact value for esoma keen but im pretty sure +1 was 7% then it prob went 2% 2% 1% 1%? The dp was 5% 2% 2% 1% 1% if i remember rightly. However due to the UC and popularity of evasion it may be worth leaving it alone. I do think all builds should be countered by something so if there is any build that has no answer then a counter answer upgrade wise should be introduced.[/quote]
eva does but u need base dex to start with if ur base dex is way behind ur at a huge disadvantage from the get go .
then your only counter is to stack dex access and as much accu as u can get ur hands on.
where as a high dex char using accu might have attack access on ect
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[quote="QXJIANG"]eva does but u need base dex to start with if ur base dex is way behind ur at a huge disadvantage from the get go . then your only counter is to stack dex access and as much accu as u can get ur hands on. where as a high dex char using accu might have attack access on ect[/quote]
Lord_Grim the counter to the evasion build is a mage.
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[quote="DR_EVIL"]Lord_Grim the counter to the evasion build is a mage.[/quote]
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[quote="M_GORMLEY"]-1[/quote]
Took me a long time to get all my dex, but my damage is low. Int chars 1hit me with weaken. I wasted lots of % on bad str gains. I dont see the problem.
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[quote="YUKA"]Took me a long time to get all my dex, but my damage is low. Int chars 1hit me with weaken. I wasted lots of % on bad str gains. I dont see the problem.[/quote]
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This needs no change.
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[quote="PAPAPILAS"]-1 This needs no change. [/quote]
lol wtf thanks for the laugh xD
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[quote="VISKAH"]lol wtf thanks for the laugh xD[/quote]

 

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