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Suprising amount of incorrect info above :O (except Sapper)

You do bow until 131 STR at least to stay in the good stat ranges as long as possible to maximise your stat gains.

131 to 151 you can do whatever weapon you want, as it's 1.0x gains. Most people just stick with bow for this range.

151 to 171 you do axe as you're in the 0.8x and 0.5x gains, so you want to power through those slow gains as quickly as possible to minimise the amount of XP spent in this range.

171 and beyond it's always 1.0x gains (same as 131 to 151), so do whatever weapon you want with no detriment.

Myth of stats:
Keep STR and DEX within 30 of each other - Wrong, has nothing to do with that
After level 100 gains are always 1.0x - Wrong
You lose stats if you don't go axe/bow - Kinda wrong, as long as you do bow and axe in the correct ranges you can do whatever weapon you want in the other ranges
Boars give better stats if you go to them early - Wrong, Finito made it so boars give same stats as BLG before 171 str
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[quote="RAMZO"]Suprising amount of incorrect info above :O (except Sapper) You do bow until 131 STR at least to stay in the good stat ranges as long as possible to maximise your stat gains. 131 to 151 you can do whatever weapon you want, as it's 1.0x gains. Most people just stick with bow for this range. 151 to 171 you do axe as you're in the 0.8x and 0.5x gains, so you want to power through those slow gains as quickly as possible to minimise the amount of XP spent in this range. 171 and beyond it's always 1.0x gains (same as 131 to 151), so do whatever weapon you want with no detriment. Myth of stats: Keep STR and DEX within 30 of each other - Wrong, has nothing to do with that After level 100 gains are always 1.0x - Wrong You lose stats if you don't go axe/bow - Kinda wrong, as long as you do bow and axe in the correct ranges you can do whatever weapon you want in the other ranges Boars give better stats if you go to them early - Wrong, Finito made it so boars give same stats as BLG before 171 str[/quote]
Thanks Ram,this is what I suspected but was never really sure
The main issue being that axe is always required for that final str boost so skilling of weps is a royal pain in the ass
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[quote="WAZZZZZUUUUU"]Thanks Ram,this is what I suspected but was never really sure The main issue being that axe is always required for that final str boost so skilling of weps is a royal pain in the ass[/quote]
Learn something new every day. Just to confirm so if i dropped bow now at 187 dex and say went knuckle, i wouldnt lose any exp of saying sticking till bow till 190 dex and doing axe?
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[quote="FREQUENCY"]Learn something new every day. Just to confirm so if i dropped bow now at 187 dex and say went knuckle, i wouldnt lose any exp of saying sticking till bow till 190 dex and doing axe?[/quote]
"FREQUENCY"Learn something new every day. Just to confirm so if i dropped bow now at 187 dex and say went knuckle, i wouldnt lose any exp of saying sticking till bow till 190 dex and doing axe?



That is correct
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[quote="SAPPER"][quote="FREQUENCY"]Learn something new every day. Just to confirm so if i dropped bow now at 187 dex and say went knuckle, i wouldnt lose any exp of saying sticking till bow till 190 dex and doing axe?[/quote] That is correct[/quote]
"RAMZO"Suprising amount of incorrect info above :O (except Sapper)

You do bow until 131 STR at least to stay in the good stat ranges as long as possible to maximise your stat gains.

131 to 151 you can do whatever weapon you want, as it's 1.0x gains. Most people just stick with bow for this range.

151 to 171 you do axe as you're in the 0.8x and 0.5x gains, so you want to power through those slow gains as quickly as possible to minimise the amount of XP spent in this range.

171 and beyond it's always 1.0x gains (same as 131 to 151), so do whatever weapon you want with no detriment.

Myth of stats:
Keep STR and DEX within 30 of each other - Wrong, has nothing to do with that
After level 100 gains are always 1.0x - Wrong
You lose stats if you don't go axe/bow - Kinda wrong, as long as you do bow and axe in the correct ranges you can do whatever weapon you want in the other ranges
Boars give better stats if you go to them early - Wrong, Finito made it so boars give same stats as BLG before 171 str



I did 5str / 2dex with both knuck / spear and bow / axe after 171 str and the bow / axe combo took around 15% less exp. I think it's to do with how exp is rounded up.
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[quote="ALBION"][quote="RAMZO"]Suprising amount of incorrect info above :O (except Sapper) You do bow until 131 STR at least to stay in the good stat ranges as long as possible to maximise your stat gains. 131 to 151 you can do whatever weapon you want, as it's 1.0x gains. Most people just stick with bow for this range. 151 to 171 you do axe as you're in the 0.8x and 0.5x gains, so you want to power through those slow gains as quickly as possible to minimise the amount of XP spent in this range. 171 and beyond it's always 1.0x gains (same as 131 to 151), so do whatever weapon you want with no detriment. Myth of stats: Keep STR and DEX within 30 of each other - Wrong, has nothing to do with that After level 100 gains are always 1.0x - Wrong You lose stats if you don't go axe/bow - Kinda wrong, as long as you do bow and axe in the correct ranges you can do whatever weapon you want in the other ranges Boars give better stats if you go to them early - Wrong, Finito made it so boars give same stats as BLG before 171 str[/quote] I did 5str / 2dex with both knuck / spear and bow / axe after 171 str and the bow / axe combo took around 15% less exp. I think it's to do with how exp is rounded up. [/quote]
"ALBION"


I did 5str / 2dex with both knuck / spear and bow / axe after 171 str and the bow / axe combo took around 15% less exp. I think it's to do with how exp is rounded up.



There are % slows at 171 176 180 str/dex and then every 5.0. Likewise for int at 176 180 then every 5.0.

Thats where the % difference will be.
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[quote="SAPPER"][quote="ALBION"] I did 5str / 2dex with both knuck / spear and bow / axe after 171 str and the bow / axe combo took around 15% less exp. I think it's to do with how exp is rounded up. [/quote] There are % slows at 171 176 180 str/dex and then every 5.0. Likewise for int at 176 180 then every 5.0. Thats where the % difference will be. [/quote]
So just to clarify after 171 str it doesn't matter what wep to use ?

ive done pure knux apart from 151-171 str with axe

so me going bow for a boost in dex wont matter ? and i should carry on with knux?

a lot of different opinions on here
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[quote="SPLIC3R"]So just to clarify after 171 str it doesn't matter what wep to use ? ive done pure knux apart from 151-171 str with axe so me going bow for a boost in dex wont matter ? and i should carry on with knux? a lot of different opinions on here [/quote]
"SPLIC3R"So just to clarify after 171 str it doesn't matter what wep to use ?

ive done pure knux apart from 151-171 str with axe

so me going bow for a boost in dex wont matter ? and i should carry on with knux?

a lot of different opinions on here


You can carry on nux with no adverse affects on stats.
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[quote="SAPPER"][quote="SPLIC3R"]So just to clarify after 171 str it doesn't matter what wep to use ? ive done pure knux apart from 151-171 str with axe so me going bow for a boost in dex wont matter ? and i should carry on with knux? a lot of different opinions on here [/quote] You can carry on nux with no adverse affects on stats. [/quote]
Noob Question pals .. @ 125 cap level can you still gain int when healing?
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[quote="IRONHIDE"]Noob Question pals .. @ 125 cap level can you still gain int when healing?[/quote]
"IRONHIDE"Noob Question pals .. @ 125 cap level can you still gain int when healing?


Yes but only if you still have a %age of exp left to gain. Once you hit 100% you’re not gaining anything.
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[quote="CRIXUS"][quote="IRONHIDE"]Noob Question pals .. @ 125 cap level can you still gain int when healing?[/quote] Yes but only if you still have a %age of exp left to gain. Once you hit 100% you’re not gaining anything.[/quote]
"SPLIC3R"So just to clarify after 171 str it doesn't matter what wep to use ?

ive done pure knux apart from 151-171 str with axe

so me going bow for a boost in dex wont matter ? and i should carry on with knux?

a lot of different opinions on here


Bow is still better for dex per % as ever; so carry on knuckle if you are happy with the dex:str ratio it gives you - if you want more dex per level and less str, use bow.

Some poor descritions in this thread seem to be eluding to you getting the same stats regardless of what weapon your using; this is obviously not true. Bow is still most efficient dex gainer, axe is still the most efficient strength gainer, sword is still crap stats, spear is less efficient then axe and knuckle less efficient then bow (as well as not allowing you to reach 'max' dex.)

The only difference with the mobs post BLG (boars & Trolls) is that the strength based gains bonus/penalty does not apply to them. So rather than being rewarded/punished based on your strength relative to the monster strength at BLG and earlier, you gain stats at a flat 1.0x until you cap them.

For example: if two lvl 100 characters, both with 150 Dex, but one has 171 str and the other 195 str; if both were hunting boars using bow, they would gain .1 dexterity in exactly the same percentage - regardless of their difference in STR which at previous monsters would have caused a significant disparity in exp gain per dex. It doesnt mean that suddenly you'll get as good dex using knuckle as bow - weapons are still identically as good or crap for stats (ratio wise) as they've ever been.
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[quote="ROCH"][quote="SPLIC3R"]So just to clarify after 171 str it doesn't matter what wep to use ? ive done pure knux apart from 151-171 str with axe so me going bow for a boost in dex wont matter ? and i should carry on with knux? a lot of different opinions on here [/quote] Bow is still better for dex per % as ever; so carry on knuckle if you are happy with the dex:str ratio it gives you - if you want more dex per level and less str, use bow. Some poor descritions in this thread seem to be eluding to you getting the same stats regardless of what weapon your using; this is obviously not true. Bow is still most efficient dex gainer, axe is still the most efficient strength gainer, sword is still crap stats, spear is less efficient then axe and knuckle less efficient then bow (as well as not allowing you to reach 'max' dex.) The only difference with the mobs post BLG (boars & Trolls) is that the strength based gains bonus/penalty does not apply to them. So rather than being rewarded/punished based on your strength relative to the monster strength at BLG and earlier, you gain stats at a flat 1.0x until you cap them. For example: if two lvl 100 characters, both with 150 Dex, but one has 171 str and the other 195 str; if both were hunting boars using bow, they would gain .1 dexterity in exactly the same percentage - regardless of their difference in STR which at previous monsters would have caused a significant disparity in exp gain per dex. It doesnt mean that suddenly you'll get as good dex using knuckle as bow - weapons are still identically as good or crap for stats (ratio wise) as they've ever been.[/quote]
"ROCH"
"SPLIC3R"So just to clarify after 171 str it doesn't matter what wep to use ?

ive done pure knux apart from 151-171 str with axe

so me going bow for a boost in dex wont matter ? and i should carry on with knux?

a lot of different opinions on here


Bow is still better for dex per % as ever; so carry on knuckle if you are happy with the dex:str ratio it gives you - if you want more dex per level and less str, use bow.

Some poor descritions in this thread seem to be eluding to you getting the same stats regardless of what weapon your using; this is obviously not true. Bow is still most efficient dex gainer, axe is still the most efficient strength gainer, sword is still crap stats, spear is less efficient then axe and knuckle less efficient then bow (as well as not allowing you to reach 'max' dex.)

The only difference with the mobs post BLG (boars & Trolls) is that the strength based gains bonus/penalty does no apply to them. So rather than being rewarded/punished based on your strength relative to the monster strength at BLG and earlier, you gain stats at a flat 1.0x until you cap them.

For example: if two lvl 100 characters, both with 150 Dex, but one has 171 str and the other 195 str; if both were hunting boars using bow, they would gain .1 dexterity in exactly the same percentage - regardless of their difference in STR which at previous monsters would have caused a significant disparity in exp gain per dex. It doesnt mean that suddenly you'll get as good dex using knuckle as bow - weapons are still identically as good or crap for stats (ratio wise) as they've ever been.


hey thanks dude for clearing this up

everyone seems to have there own opinions on this topic but you're statement seems to make most sense


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[quote="SPLIC3R"][quote="ROCH"][quote="SPLIC3R"]So just to clarify after 171 str it doesn't matter what wep to use ? ive done pure knux apart from 151-171 str with axe so me going bow for a boost in dex wont matter ? and i should carry on with knux? a lot of different opinions on here [/quote] Bow is still better for dex per % as ever; so carry on knuckle if you are happy with the dex:str ratio it gives you - if you want more dex per level and less str, use bow. Some poor descritions in this thread seem to be eluding to you getting the same stats regardless of what weapon your using; this is obviously not true. Bow is still most efficient dex gainer, axe is still the most efficient strength gainer, sword is still crap stats, spear is less efficient then axe and knuckle less efficient then bow (as well as not allowing you to reach 'max' dex.) The only difference with the mobs post BLG (boars & Trolls) is that the strength based gains bonus/penalty does no apply to them. So rather than being rewarded/punished based on your strength relative to the monster strength at BLG and earlier, you gain stats at a flat 1.0x until you cap them. For example: if two lvl 100 characters, both with 150 Dex, but one has 171 str and the other 195 str; if both were hunting boars using bow, they would gain .1 dexterity in exactly the same percentage - regardless of their difference in STR which at previous monsters would have caused a significant disparity in exp gain per dex. It doesnt mean that suddenly you'll get as good dex using knuckle as bow - weapons are still identically as good or crap for stats (ratio wise) as they've ever been.[/quote] hey thanks dude for clearing this up everyone seems to have there own opinions on this topic but you're statement seems to make most sense [/quote]
"SAPPER"
"ALBION"


I did 5str / 2dex with both knuck / spear and bow / axe after 171 str and the bow / axe combo took around 15% less exp. I think it's to do with how exp is rounded up.



There are % slows at 171 176 180 str/dex and then every 5.0. Likewise for int at 176 180 then every 5.0.

Thats where the % difference will be.


Sorry, should have been more clear. It was on 2 different chars, both at 175str / 125ish dex at the time.
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[quote="ALBION"][quote="SAPPER"][quote="ALBION"] I did 5str / 2dex with both knuck / spear and bow / axe after 171 str and the bow / axe combo took around 15% less exp. I think it's to do with how exp is rounded up. [/quote] There are % slows at 171 176 180 str/dex and then every 5.0. Likewise for int at 176 180 then every 5.0. Thats where the % difference will be. [/quote] Sorry, should have been more clear. It was on 2 different chars, both at 175str / 125ish dex at the time.[/quote]
This thread is very informative.
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[quote="DENZEL"]This thread is very informative.[/quote]
Can we get Matthew (sapper) a GM robe and position so he can answer all the communities questions stat-wise?
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[quote="LUTHER"]Can we get Matthew (sapper) a GM robe and position so he can answer all the communities questions stat-wise?[/quote]

 

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