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dispel has its place in the game tbh the issue is weapon speed and the fact an archer has stupid high dex that gives it such a high hit rate without any need for accuracy on every class (except maybe knuckle) that makes it seem dispel is op...


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[quote="ZURICH"]dispel has its place in the game tbh the issue is weapon speed and the fact an archer has stupid high dex that gives it such a high hit rate without any need for accuracy on every class (except maybe knuckle) that makes it seem dispel is op... [/quote]
Try being a mage on hsoma against China's and Korea's 400 recoil bows. 4th staff for us plz.
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[quote="SHAILO"]Try being a mage on hsoma against China's and Korea's 400 recoil bows. 4th staff for us plz.[/quote]
One of the weaker mages just dealing 90% damage in 1 hit few mins ago... game breaking

merlin 1 hitting a capped axer is not game breaking? https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cY62qI7ogv and how many melee had to hit you before you dropped
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[quote="AFRO"]One of the weaker mages just dealing 90% damage in 1 hit few mins ago... [url=https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cY62FH7ote]game breaking[/url] merlin 1 hitting a capped axer is not game breaking? [url=https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cY62qI7ogv]https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cY62qI7ogv[/url] and how many melee had to hit you before you dropped [/quote]
I'm not the most knowledgeable on the intricacies of all the classes but in my opinion, I feel like mages and archers are both OP. If you took either out of the game the other would become dominant. It's pointless saying either should be nerfed as it would be unfair on the users who spend years on their sets and playing the class.

It would be nice to see buffs on all other classes, higher wis on tanks maybe, higher base hp on swordies to compensate for the lack of range? I dunno the solution but would be nice to see other classes in PvP rather than just archers vs mages lol
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[quote="ACRONIS"]I'm not the most knowledgeable on the intricacies of all the classes but in my opinion, I feel like mages and archers are both OP. If you took either out of the game the other would become dominant. It's pointless saying either should be nerfed as it would be unfair on the users who spend years on their sets and playing the class. It would be nice to see buffs on all other classes, higher wis on tanks maybe, higher base hp on swordies to compensate for the lack of range? I dunno the solution but would be nice to see other classes in PvP rather than just archers vs mages lol [/quote]
"KNUCKLES"Dispel shouldn’t stop 4th staff, you should serum it off and carry on


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[quote="GENTRY"][quote="KNUCKLES"]Dispel shouldn’t stop 4th staff, you should serum it off and carry on [/quote] +1 [/quote]
As a dsoma mage I don't feel dispel is that OP, I understand merlins frustration in the clip he has posted.

But he did cast, he did hit the archer any of those hits had the potential to 1 bang him.
did the archer kill him? no..
so it ended in a draw? all be it he used slightly more pots...
would you have posted the same video if one of those hits 1 banged?

can't base pvp off 1 v1 otherwise multiple axers in full tank gear would just roll other classes over through lack of damage.

factor in group pvp, if the archer wears dispell armour (or access) they surrender damage or dex or defence as they are not wearing Pod / dex armour / str armour / acc etc

it's just a 1v1 an characters can gear to what they are fighting.

if mages come for me on conti i can go full robes and MD access and take less than 20 a hit from top MA hsoma mages (tested with nyraxx, knuckles, 4634) who have no otherway to hurt me it. However if im wearing MA gear they tear through me.
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[quote="MAGEY"]As a dsoma mage I don't feel dispel is that OP, I understand merlins frustration in the clip he has posted. But he did cast, he did hit the archer any of those hits had the potential to 1 bang him. did the archer kill him? no.. so it ended in a draw? all be it he used slightly more pots... would you have posted the same video if one of those hits 1 banged? can't base pvp off 1 v1 otherwise multiple axers in full tank gear would just roll other classes over through lack of damage. factor in group pvp, if the archer wears dispell armour (or access) they surrender damage or dex or defence as they are not wearing Pod / dex armour / str armour / acc etc it's just a 1v1 an characters can gear to what they are fighting. if mages come for me on conti i can go full robes and MD access and take less than 20 a hit from top MA hsoma mages (tested with nyraxx, knuckles, 4634) who have no otherway to hurt me it. However if im wearing MA gear they tear through me. [/quote]
As a mage that constantly is dispelled at gvw, i find it fine as is, he had no kill threat on u at all alone yet the potential to proc and kill him is always there, play to ur strengths and not ur weakness of a dispell archer
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[quote="MEPH"]As a mage that constantly is dispelled at gvw, i find it fine as is, he had no kill threat on u at all alone yet the potential to proc and kill him is always there, play to ur strengths and not ur weakness of a dispell archer[/quote]
Now mage has crazy dmg. it is very true.
Even thought ive set my wis 180, sometimes i died by 1 hit magic. (700~800 dmg. )
Dispel is one of the options that other classes can fight against mages which have crazy dmg.
Other wise other classes have to run away always.
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[quote="AZZURRI"]Now mage has crazy dmg. it is very true. Even thought ive set my wis 180, sometimes i died by 1 hit magic. (700~800 dmg. ) Dispel is one of the options that other classes can fight against mages which have crazy dmg. Other wise other classes have to run away always. [/quote]
Its so easy as an archer to shut down a mage, put omni on hit them and run when they 4th. With dispel proc on archers, mages have no chance. Anyone who cant see this doesnt play a mage. I have access to all charaters and this that dispel proc is clearly broken and op.
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[quote="SH1VS"]Its so easy as an archer to shut down a mage, put omni on hit them and run when they 4th. With dispel proc on archers, mages have no chance. Anyone who cant see this doesnt play a mage. I have access to all charaters and this that dispel proc is clearly broken and op.[/quote]
Such a shame that these shitters will shut down balancing ideas because its mentioned by an enemy.
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[quote="SH1VS"]Such a shame that these shitters will shut down balancing ideas because its mentioned by an enemy.[/quote]
Archer is mage's bogey class, not every class can beat every other class in 1 v 1.

People just talking pure nonsense, but cba to tear these so called points to bits.

Switch on.
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[quote="WHOOSH"]Archer is mage's bogey class, not every class can beat every other class in 1 v 1. People just talking pure nonsense, but cba to tear these so called points to bits. Switch on.[/quote]
Omni and a bow can stop mages at the best of time with dispel which means they cant attack and breaks there 4th is op.
All we are asking is it is looked into.
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[quote="SH1VS"]Omni and a bow can stop mages at the best of time with dispel which means they cant attack and breaks there 4th is op. All we are asking is it is looked into.[/quote]
You're using anecdotal evidence as the basis of this argument (as per Omerta).

You're talking about 1 v 1 and I just stated why that is kinda dumb in general, even more so in this case.

Nothing needs looking into, mage is fine if you can actually play it properly - trust me. :)
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[quote="WHOOSH"]You're using anecdotal evidence as the basis of this argument (as per Omerta). You're talking about 1 v 1 and I just stated why that is kinda dumb in general, even more so in this case. Nothing needs looking into, mage is fine if you can actually play it properly - trust me. :)[/quote]
Any class can put on wis gear and grab a bow to disrupt mages, carrying dispel gear too is a quick shut down too
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[quote="MKULTRA"]Any class can put on wis gear and grab a bow to disrupt mages, carrying dispel gear too is a quick shut down too[/quote]
Im not saying dispel needs 100% removing, it definitely hasnits place

Just not as a 20% proc rate on a fast wep with a 99% hitrate

If he decided to come after a mage who was hunting what are they supposed to do?
No other class can be 100% shut down, i dont get how people think this should be possible

Hsoma mages have a more op version of 4th staff, its called 5th axe, even stops people running away from you, and has a cooldown that is 2x as fast

Also a mage has maxed out their con, wears top tier armour and gets rip'd in 3 hits if others wear attacking armour
Any class who max out their wis and wear top tier robes cant be 1 hit
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[quote="MERLIN"]Im not saying dispel needs 100% removing, it definitely hasnits place Just not as a 20% proc rate on a fast wep with a 99% hitrate If he decided to come after a mage who was hunting what are they supposed to do? No other class can be 100% shut down, i dont get how people think this should be possible Hsoma mages have a more op version of 4th staff, its called 5th axe, even stops people running away from you, and has a cooldown that is 2x as fast Also a mage has maxed out their con, wears top tier armour and gets rip'd in 3 hits if others wear attacking armour Any class who max out their wis and wear top tier robes cant be 1 hit [/quote]

 

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