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as Raven said a few weeks ago.. most ppl capped or nearly and we're back ' in this position'
bottlenecked... and apart from the grind not many places to go..

ofc there's new gear to get .. but that's on the list of ..' u aint getting it qwik and u aint getting a lot of it '
which is proly a way to extend this new content a bit longer

possibly the horde mode is posing some technical problems hence its delay...

would like to see a more back to basics approach... 20 xtra levels .. super slow..and another 2-3 types of mobs/ armour/ weps that actually drop from these mobs
bosses can drop a minimum rare/epic tag and a possible mtag maybe to reward the boss killers....

20 xtra levs might be a headache for balance and stat gains etc.. but would get soma back into the old way .. of logging on..go kill some mobs, gain some stats and maybe get a nice piece of armour or a weapon..

Just 2 guys here doing this in their spare time... the server has succeeded and lasted a long time so cant give them too much shit..they have kept things running well and implemented a lot of new stuff..
Maybe a more back to basics approach would help..
dunno
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]as Raven said a few weeks ago.. most ppl capped or nearly and we're back ' in this position' bottlenecked... and apart from the grind not many places to go.. ofc there's new gear to get .. but that's on the list of ..' u aint getting it qwik and u aint getting a lot of it ' which is proly a way to extend this new content a bit longer possibly the horde mode is posing some technical problems hence its delay... would like to see a more back to basics approach... 20 xtra levels .. super slow..and another 2-3 types of mobs/ armour/ weps that actually drop from these mobs bosses can drop a minimum rare/epic tag and a possible mtag maybe to reward the boss killers.... 20 xtra levs might be a headache for balance and stat gains etc.. but would get soma back into the old way .. of logging on..go kill some mobs, gain some stats and maybe get a nice piece of armour or a weapon.. Just 2 guys here doing this in their spare time... the server has succeeded and lasted a long time so cant give them too much shit..they have kept things running well and implemented a lot of new stuff.. Maybe a more back to basics approach would help.. dunno [/quote]
Nobody wants to play 20 long, slow levels. How many people didn't even bother getting to 135 before they stopped logging in? It also doesn't remotely solve the issue of the gear grind, it just puts another obstacle in the way of it.

Esoma worked with super slow progress because that was the grind, you logged on for x hours and you had a quantifiable level of progress relative to other people - upped gear was largely irrelevant (or at least super rare) for most of the games life. Gear has become the grind here and there's no coming back from that now, even if that does mean you can play 100s of hours and have literally nothing to show for it.

Is it any wonder the average player stops logging in when more gear is added and they don't even have a realistic chance of getting upped versions of the stuff added a couple of years back?
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[quote="3D"]Nobody wants to play 20 long, slow levels. How many people didn't even bother getting to 135 before they stopped logging in? It also doesn't remotely solve the issue of the gear grind, it just puts another obstacle in the way of it. Esoma worked with super slow progress because that was the grind, you logged on for x hours and you had a quantifiable level of progress relative to other people - upped gear was largely irrelevant (or at least super rare) for most of the games life. Gear has become the grind here and there's no coming back from that now, even if that does mean you can play 100s of hours and have literally nothing to show for it. Is it any wonder the average player stops logging in when more gear is added and they don't even have a realistic chance of getting upped versions of the stuff added a couple of years back? [/quote]
well .. personally.. if i could log on and kill a few k mobs and get a nice shiny new weapon or piece of armour .. and some stats.. without capping in a fortnight .. and the game stays alive for a few months ...with chances of both stats and gears..
il take the slow road ..
but each to their own
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]well .. personally.. if i could log on and kill a few k mobs and get a nice shiny new weapon or piece of armour .. and some stats.. without capping in a fortnight .. and the game stays alive for a few months ...with chances of both stats and gears.. il take the slow road .. but each to their own [/quote]
Adding more levels isn’t the answer, I’ve been saying this since the 110 level cap. All you do by adding more levels is move the goal posts to one side for a certain period of time and once there all the problems are there still as before.

Mid range level is were some focus could be aimed.

Around the level 55-60 area...

Add some quests for DP’s and keen eyes, these would help the warrior, tank/mage builds for making some basic evasion, accuracy armour. Add some toe and ct quest’s again to help these players make some basic weapon and MA accessories.

Not enough players are logging on due to the time invested versus reward and that’s down to drop rates/anvil not enough players are levelling, farming, questing. The economy is nonexistent at best due to this, now the addition of these new valour scroll weapons, armour is a great addition it’s also causing a big problem, players aren’t used to this method, the scrolls might have been best to be made tradable.

As 3D points out this game is now more gear oriented than what esoma ever was, the trouble with this is at certain points the gap is getting wider and each level cap rise shows this. The economy now is all about small diamonds, double tabs, nega tears and not everyone has these on tap to trade with. In hindsight maybe level 100 was the fairest goal post.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Adding more levels isn’t the answer, I’ve been saying this since the 110 level cap. All you do by adding more levels is move the goal posts to one side for a certain period of time and once there all the problems are there still as before. Mid range level is were some focus could be aimed. Around the level 55-60 area... Add some quests for DP’s and keen eyes, these would help the warrior, tank/mage builds for making some basic evasion, accuracy armour. Add some toe and ct quest’s again to help these players make some basic weapon and MA accessories. Not enough players are logging on due to the time invested versus reward and that’s down to drop rates/anvil not enough players are levelling, farming, questing. The economy is nonexistent at best due to this, now the addition of these new valour scroll weapons, armour is a great addition it’s also causing a big problem, players aren’t used to this method, the scrolls might have been best to be made tradable. As 3D points out this game is now more gear oriented than what esoma ever was, the trouble with this is at certain points the gap is getting wider and each level cap rise shows this. The economy now is all about small diamonds, double tabs, nega tears and not everyone has these on tap to trade with. In hindsight maybe level 100 was the fairest goal post.[/quote]
"EDICIUS"
"4634"fintio confirmed on main discord not upping drop rate sadly.


thats not true. finito doesnt just up them. dan chooses when the rates are. done he only said he would up them from that 1 request on discord :P


I hope so but doubtful as apparently this post got called "noise" as well.
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[quote="4634"][quote="EDICIUS"][quote="4634"]fintio confirmed on main discord not upping drop rate sadly.[/quote] thats not true. finito doesnt just up them. dan chooses when the rates are. done he only said he would up them from that 1 request on discord :P[/quote] I hope so but doubtful as apparently this post got called "noise" as well.[/quote]
"3D"Nobody wants to play 20 long, slow levels. How many people didn't even bother getting to 135 before they stopped logging in? It also doesn't remotely solve the issue of the gear grind, it just puts another obstacle in the way of it.

Esoma worked with super slow progress because that was the grind, you logged on for x hours and you had a quantifiable level of progress relative to other people - upped gear was largely irrelevant (or at least super rare) for most of the games life. Gear has become the grind here and there's no coming back from that now, even if that does mean you can play 100s of hours and have literally nothing to show for it.

Is it any wonder the average player stops logging in when more gear is added and they don't even have a realistic chance of getting upped versions of the stuff added a couple of years back?


im still 130 on 2 characters. still aint made myself a nega weapon. Know lots of people who have quit due to the reasons you stated
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[quote="4634"][quote="3D"]Nobody wants to play 20 long, slow levels. How many people didn't even bother getting to 135 before they stopped logging in? It also doesn't remotely solve the issue of the gear grind, it just puts another obstacle in the way of it. Esoma worked with super slow progress because that was the grind, you logged on for x hours and you had a quantifiable level of progress relative to other people - upped gear was largely irrelevant (or at least super rare) for most of the games life. Gear has become the grind here and there's no coming back from that now, even if that does mean you can play 100s of hours and have literally nothing to show for it. Is it any wonder the average player stops logging in when more gear is added and they don't even have a realistic chance of getting upped versions of the stuff added a couple of years back? [/quote] im still 130 on 2 characters. still aint made myself a nega weapon. Know lots of people who have quit due to the reasons you stated [/quote]
If an event if considered maybe they could called soma summer bash or valour summer ball lol
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[quote="4634"]If an event if considered maybe they could called soma summer bash or valour summer ball lol[/quote]
im game
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[quote="AIRWALK31"]im game[/quote]
@raven adding more levels isn't the answer ?

talking levels that take longer than a few weeks.... talking levels with mobs that drop new weapons and armour without doing finickity hard work quests to gain a few valour... talking levels that last a few months to gain some stats and some gear...

mid - range barely exists anymore because players have badgered the gms for faster rates for years now... that's why 90 % of server is capped/ almost capped and there's nothing to do now.

so many differing opinions.. some say the anvil is fine.. then moan u cant make things.... some moan there's no drops but say they dont want new mobs and new levels to get more drops to try making things...

Let's all be capped... no more levels... no more stats.. lets fight over half a dozen bosses a day... lets get a rare nega wep every week . then break it.. then say .. o0 more levels.. no thx..... lets ask for a dp quest for the lev 60's..? c'mon

i made a guy a full 4% eva set a couple of weeks ago for free.. there's enough generosity around to help new players.. other players are dishing out upgraded apuses and stuff... its generally a kind and helpful server here for new players... lets concentrate on keeping that going, by keeping the long term players ingame..

i don't get it at all at all at all

anyway.. either im talking total trash.. or some other ppl are.... so 50-50 chance.. either way.. retiring from forum comments.
was a pleasure.. mostly

x

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[quote="LUPISCUS"]@raven adding more levels isn't the answer ? talking levels that take longer than a few weeks.... talking levels with mobs that drop new weapons and armour without doing finickity hard work quests to gain a few valour... talking levels that last a few months to gain some stats and some gear... mid - range barely exists anymore because players have badgered the gms for faster rates for years now... that's why 90 % of server is capped/ almost capped and there's nothing to do now. so many differing opinions.. some say the anvil is fine.. then moan u cant make things.... some moan there's no drops but say they dont want new mobs and new levels to get more drops to try making things... Let's all be capped... no more levels... no more stats.. lets fight over half a dozen bosses a day... lets get a rare nega wep every week . then break it.. then say .. o0 more levels.. no thx..... lets ask for a dp quest for the lev 60's..? c'mon i made a guy a full 4% eva set a couple of weeks ago for free.. there's enough generosity around to help new players.. other players are dishing out upgraded apuses and stuff... its generally a kind and helpful server here for new players... lets concentrate on keeping that going, by keeping the long term players ingame.. i don't get it at all at all at all anyway.. either im talking total trash.. or some other ppl are.... so 50-50 chance.. either way.. retiring from forum comments. was a pleasure.. mostly x . [/quote]
Groundhog Day.......

This happens every year, just seems to be everyday though...

We each have different views, opinions on how soma is, how it should include everyone, how this and that should be, shouldn’t be.

Who ever or what ever group shouts the loudest, moans the loudest tries to get there way to influence the gm’s into tweaking this, changing that, adding this and that.

Bottom line is we are all responsible for the state in which we find soma in today.

Some want more levels...

Some want endgame focus...

Some want armours, some want weapons, some want spells, some want recipes etc etc etc the list is endless, the suggestions are endless and in 6-12 months time we will be right back here, moaning, complaining, suggesting blahblahblah.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Groundhog Day....... This happens every year, just seems to be everyday though... We each have different views, opinions on how soma is, how it should include everyone, how this and that should be, shouldn’t be. Who ever or what ever group shouts the loudest, moans the loudest tries to get there way to influence the gm’s into tweaking this, changing that, adding this and that. Bottom line is we are all responsible for the state in which we find soma in today. Some want more levels... Some want endgame focus... Some want armours, some want weapons, some want spells, some want recipes etc etc etc the list is endless, the suggestions are endless and in 6-12 months time we will be right back here, moaning, complaining, suggesting blahblahblah.[/quote]
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"EDICIUS"
"4634"fintio confirmed on main discord not upping drop rate sadly.


thats not true. finito doesnt just up them. dan chooses when the rates are. done he only said he would up them from that 1 request on discord :P


I hope so but doubtful as apparently this post got called "noise" as well.


ISYLVER Maybe we’ll do a super summer event at some point and get the rates back up for a bit of time. Just trying to ignore the useless noise in that thread too.


Don’t go looking for drama when it isn’t apparent. I was referring to the “wew” comments and need for people to troll not the thread itself. Jeez.
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[quote="ISYLVER"][quote="4634"][quote="EDICIUS"][quote="4634"]fintio confirmed on main discord not upping drop rate sadly.[/quote] thats not true. finito doesnt just up them. dan chooses when the rates are. done he only said he would up them from that 1 request on discord :P[/quote] I hope so but doubtful as apparently this post got called "noise" as well.[/quote] [quote=ISYLVER] Maybe we’ll do a super summer event at some point and get the rates back up for a bit of time. Just trying to ignore the useless noise in that thread too.[/quote] Don’t go looking for drama when it isn’t apparent. I was referring to the “wew” comments and need for people to troll not the thread itself. Jeez.[/quote]
Dan don’t let a few comments put you off doing some upped rates for server. 99.99% of the server doesn’t deserve to suffer because of a very few selected posts...

I logged on yesterday and there was 4 people in town and 1 person at mags... no ones logging with these low drop rates.
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[quote="TEMEROSO"]Dan don’t let a few comments put you off doing some upped rates for server. 99.99% of the server doesn’t deserve to suffer because of a very few selected posts... I logged on yesterday and there was 4 people in town and 1 person at mags... no ones logging with these low drop rates.[/quote]
"ISYLVER"
"4634"
"EDICIUS"
"4634"fintio confirmed on main discord not upping drop rate sadly.


thats not true. finito doesnt just up them. dan chooses when the rates are. done he only said he would up them from that 1 request on discord :P


I hope so but doubtful as apparently this post got called "noise" as well.


ISYLVER Maybe we’ll do a super summer event at some point and get the rates back up for a bit of time. Just trying to ignore the useless noise in that thread too.


Don’t go looking for drama when it isn’t apparent. I was referring to the “wew” comments and need for people to troll not the thread itself. Jeez.


I apologise Dan, just got sent screenies of the discord misunderstood sorry
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[quote="4634"][quote="ISYLVER"][quote="4634"][quote="EDICIUS"][quote="4634"]fintio confirmed on main discord not upping drop rate sadly.[/quote] thats not true. finito doesnt just up them. dan chooses when the rates are. done he only said he would up them from that 1 request on discord :P[/quote] I hope so but doubtful as apparently this post got called "noise" as well.[/quote] [quote=ISYLVER] Maybe we’ll do a super summer event at some point and get the rates back up for a bit of time. Just trying to ignore the useless noise in that thread too.[/quote] Don’t go looking for drama when it isn’t apparent. I was referring to the “wew” comments and need for people to troll not the thread itself. Jeez.[/quote] I apologise Dan, just got sent screenies of the discord misunderstood sorry[/quote]

 

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