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Reform drops for better ecnomy and pk

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Okay lots of things have been added but theres no economy and no pk! SO speaking to people some ideas being suggested is:
Move all bitter bone/bone to mags single tabs to mags
Add valour scrolls to elder mags x3 tthe drop of sd rate as an example?~
Add sds to elder mags
Add valour scrolls to vafer raptors as there is no end game farming mobs for melee.
Remove proc tabs/ gorshak level weapons from nega mare and ultamapus

The logic behind this is that there is no farming incentive really other than valour now which means competion for valour is currently based on rvr crystal runs or doing quests. Immunity pots was 100% needed but as theres no farming incentives there is no pk which means theres no compeition. no one bothers with +1 items such as tows etc. Only way to get nega tears: is through a successful crystal run, assume you get the nega kill.and hope that ng is in your favour. A|so would like to see nega tears being craftable from mats dropped from damned demons/utlampus and rarely for elder mags. - like damned demon drop something you need for the tear, the ulamapus drop another item needed for the tear and then the mag/vaf rap drop soemthnig you need from the tear.

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[quote="4634"] Okay lots of things have been added but theres no economy and no pk! SO speaking to people some ideas being suggested is: Move all bitter bone/bone to mags single tabs to mags Add valour scrolls to elder mags x3 tthe drop of sd rate as an example?~ Add sds to elder mags Add valour scrolls to vafer raptors as there is no end game farming mobs for melee. Remove proc tabs/ gorshak level weapons from nega mare and ultamapus The logic behind this is that there is no farming incentive really other than valour now which means competion for valour is currently based on rvr crystal runs or doing quests. Immunity pots was 100% needed but as theres no farming incentives there is no pk which means theres no compeition. no one bothers with +1 items such as tows etc. Only way to get nega tears: is through a successful crystal run, assume you get the nega kill.and hope that ng is in your favour. A|so would like to see nega tears being craftable from mats dropped from damned demons/utlampus and rarely for elder mags. - like damned demon drop something you need for the tear, the ulamapus drop another item needed for the tear and then the mag/vaf rap drop soemthnig you need from the tear. [/quote]
Not Pking pve chars and forcing them off the game by constantly harrasing them is another way to pick up the player count.
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[quote="ACTAEON"]Not Pking pve chars and forcing them off the game by constantly harrasing them is another way to pick up the player count.[/quote]
Move all bitter bone/bone to mags single tabs to mags
uh think thats in already?

Add valour scrolls to elder mags x3 tthe drop of sd rate as an example?~
Valour scrolls are not tradable so won't add much to the economy

Add sds to elder mags
Yes

Add valour scrolls to vafer raptors as there is no end game farming mobs for melee.
Vafer raptors are probably the best thing to hunt on hsoma for gear.

Remove proc tabs/ gorshak level weapons from nega mare and ultamapus
Don't understand how removing stuff from ultimapus will improve economy.

Negatear idea is great but it has already been done
mystical fragments, ty zuzu
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[quote="SB99"]Move all bitter bone/bone to mags single tabs to mags uh think thats in already? Add valour scrolls to elder mags x3 tthe drop of sd rate as an example?~ Valour scrolls are not tradable so won't add much to the economy Add sds to elder mags Yes Add valour scrolls to vafer raptors as there is no end game farming mobs for melee. Vafer raptors are probably the best thing to hunt on hsoma for gear. Remove proc tabs/ gorshak level weapons from nega mare and ultamapus Don't understand how removing stuff from ultimapus will improve economy. Negatear idea is great but it has already been done mystical fragments, ty zuzu[/quote]
valour scrolls are dropping at vafers.. thorns = sd's at elders...
and ye.. mystical frags great addition ;)

we already got what's needed.. just needs the portion sizes adjusted a bit

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[quote="AMOEBA"]valour scrolls are dropping at vafers.. thorns = sd's at elders... and ye.. mystical frags great addition ;) we already got what's needed.. just needs the portion sizes adjusted a bit x[/quote]
]Move all bitter bone/bone to mags single tabs to mags
uh think thats in already?

no still junk @elder mags none tag junk even more so

Add valour scrolls to elder mags x3 tthe drop of sd rate as an example?~
Valour scrolls are not tradable so won't add much to the economy

The majroity of the weapons and armours will break at anvil having achieveable method will help deter more players from quitting especiall at the current cost of new items. You cant trade valour no but when people get and upp new weapons they can then trade their old ones or if they change weapons they can propose offers on their current gear.

Add sds to elder mags
Yes


Add valour scrolls to vafer raptors as there is no end game farming mobs for melee.
Vafer raptors are probably the best thing to hunt on hsoma for gear.

https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=42710&title=Valour+scrolls+&Page=1 - just in regards to valour.

As

Remove proc tabs/ gorshak level weapons from nega mare and ultamapus
Don't understand how removing stuff from ultimapus will improve economy.

Well proc tabs should remain at ultiamapus soz but the other tier junk most people npc especially now with the new tier in.

It imrpoves the economy as lss junk will drop at mobs and hopefully improve the quality of the drops, allow players to have items that are actually valuable to trade with and are desired.

Negatear idea is great but it has already been done
mystical fragments, ty zuzu

Maybe so but for majority its the same issue haviung the ability to kill these end game bosses.

Though would like to see new boss with new weapon drop or decent amoiunt of armour - would also put it same time as nega.

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[quote="4634"]]Move all bitter bone/bone to mags single tabs to mags uh think thats in already? no still junk @elder mags none tag junk even more so Add valour scrolls to elder mags x3 tthe drop of sd rate as an example?~ Valour scrolls are not tradable so won't add much to the economy The majroity of the weapons and armours will break at anvil having achieveable method will help deter more players from quitting especiall at the current cost of new items. You cant trade valour no but when people get and upp new weapons they can then trade their old ones or if they change weapons they can propose offers on their current gear. Add sds to elder mags Yes Add valour scrolls to vafer raptors as there is no end game farming mobs for melee. Vafer raptors are probably the best thing to hunt on hsoma for gear. https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=42710&title=Valour+scrolls+&Page=1 - just in regards to valour. As Remove proc tabs/ gorshak level weapons from nega mare and ultamapus Don't understand how removing stuff from ultimapus will improve economy. Well proc tabs should remain at ultiamapus soz but the other tier junk most people npc especially now with the new tier in. It imrpoves the economy as lss junk will drop at mobs and hopefully improve the quality of the drops, allow players to have items that are actually valuable to trade with and are desired. Negatear idea is great but it has already been done mystical fragments, ty zuzu Maybe so but for majority its the same issue haviung the ability to kill these end game bosses. Though would like to see new boss with new weapon drop or decent amoiunt of armour - would also put it same time as nega. [/quote]
"AMOEBA"valour scrolls are dropping at vafers.. thorns = sd's at elders...
and ye.. mystical frags great addition ;)

we already got what's needed.. just needs the portion sizes adjusted a bit

x


not had any at spiders =( ..dont hunt raps as not close enough on either character atm
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[quote="4634"][quote="AMOEBA"]valour scrolls are dropping at vafers.. thorns = sd's at elders... and ye.. mystical frags great addition ;) we already got what's needed.. just needs the portion sizes adjusted a bit x[/quote] not had any at spiders =( ..dont hunt raps as not close enough on either character atm[/quote]
haven't had a valour scroll in 4 days .. vafers or elders ..
they seem to have dried up.. if they were ever 'wet'

maybe gm's are keeping things slow for a reason.. duno

imho.. 7-8 hours day playtime .. it might be nice to get 5-10 scrolls ish..

no1 gona be overloaded with new stuff in a hurry, but keep a bit of incentive going
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[quote="AMOEBA"]haven't had a valour scroll in 4 days .. vafers or elders .. they seem to have dried up.. if they were ever 'wet' maybe gm's are keeping things slow for a reason.. duno imho.. 7-8 hours day playtime .. it might be nice to get 5-10 scrolls ish.. no1 gona be overloaded with new stuff in a hurry, but keep a bit of incentive going[/quote]
Totally understandable that some people are under the impression that vafers don't drop valour as it happens so rarely (I've had 1 drop since x2 began). even if the drop rate was x5 they still wouldn't be dropping as 5 x 0 is the same as 2 x 0. So 100% agree that drop rate of valour needs ramping up considerably.
Would also like to see sd's drop at elder mags and less junk. Also less junk at vafers, the amount of untagged stuff they drop is demoralizing at times.
Not sure if nega tears should be craftable, as we already have a fairly new system for obtaining tears via mystical frags.
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[quote="BLUEHAWK"]Totally understandable that some people are under the impression that vafers don't drop valour as it happens so rarely (I've had 1 drop since x2 began). even if the drop rate was x5 they still wouldn't be dropping as 5 x 0 is the same as 2 x 0. So 100% agree that drop rate of valour needs ramping up considerably. Would also like to see sd's drop at elder mags and less junk. Also less junk at vafers, the amount of untagged stuff they drop is demoralizing at times. Not sure if nega tears should be craftable, as we already have a fairly new system for obtaining tears via mystical frags.[/quote]
I'd like drops from 84 Str to be looked at, why do palus drop such irrelevant items for the stats to hunt them. Shanish should drop bone etc. You power through to 85 pretty quickly at the moment and unless some one can give you bone or craft it your defence sucks too much to handle things palus or above well enough with shop items available until you can complete a few quests. I understand there needs to be a challenge, but the curve is just too extreme at times and small tweaks would be so beneficial.
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[quote="BETAMA1"]I'd like drops from 84 Str to be looked at, why do palus drop such irrelevant items for the stats to hunt them. Shanish should drop bone etc. You power through to 85 pretty quickly at the moment and unless some one can give you bone or craft it your defence sucks too much to handle things palus or above well enough with shop items available until you can complete a few quests. I understand there needs to be a challenge, but the curve is just too extreme at times and small tweaks would be so beneficial.[/quote]
I done 100% last 2 evenings at spiders, had 1 valour scroll and 1 tol 1 tom 1 sp. that is all i've had of note. No tagged mage gear no staffs not even untagged, no SD. About 12 hours or so of play for pretty much nothing at x2 drop lol. Swear i got more sd's at less time on x1!
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[quote="ACTAEON"]I done 100% last 2 evenings at spiders, had 1 valour scroll and 1 tol 1 tom 1 sp. that is all i've had of note. No tagged mage gear no staffs not even untagged, no SD. About 12 hours or so of play for pretty much nothing at x2 drop lol. Swear i got more sd's at less time on x1![/quote]
"ACTAEON"Not Pking pve chars and forcing them off the game by constantly harrasing them is another way to pick up the player count.


+1
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[quote="FEEBLE"][quote="ACTAEON"]Not Pking pve chars and forcing them off the game by constantly harrasing them is another way to pick up the player count.[/quote] +1[/quote]
4634, the player that boasts in-game of making players leave, then makes forum posts about raising user count and making changes that will benefit himself the most.

+1 to Actaeon.
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[quote="SOMCHAI"]4634, the player that boasts in-game of making players leave, then makes forum posts about raising user count and making changes that will benefit himself the most. +1 to Actaeon.[/quote]
Aye it’s as if the lads bi polar when it comes to the forum and then the game itself.
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[quote="TYRESE"]Aye it’s as if the lads bi polar when it comes to the forum and then the game itself. [/quote]
Been suggested in past to link user count to drop rates...

Standard 1.5/2 drop rates with 100+ uc
50-99 uc 2.5/3 drop rate
1-49 3.5/4 drop rate

Above is just an example of course.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Been suggested in past to link user count to drop rates... Standard 1.5/2 drop rates with 100+ uc 50-99 uc 2.5/3 drop rate 1-49 3.5/4 drop rate Above is just an example of course.[/quote]
"FEEBLE"
"ACTAEON"Not Pking pve chars and forcing them off the game by constantly harrasing them is another way to pick up the player count.


+1


If you didnt have characters like feeble hdiing behind pve characters to farm on or pim in arcanix hiding behind pve guilds or pixel in arcanix.......

its funny you come out with this feeble because it never bothered u when u used to say in guiild chat about fasint and dl pking u but dont bother u zzz.
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[quote="4634"][quote="FEEBLE"][quote="ACTAEON"]Not Pking pve chars and forcing them off the game by constantly harrasing them is another way to pick up the player count.[/quote] +1[/quote] If you didnt have characters like feeble hdiing behind pve characters to farm on or pim in arcanix hiding behind pve guilds or pixel in arcanix....... its funny you come out with this feeble because it never bothered u when u used to say in guiild chat about fasint and dl pking u but dont bother u zzz. [/quote]

 

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