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SB99 |
Ridiculously frustrating to play against.
How about changing it from dispel spells/auras to stopping feathers? |
#1 2021/08/22 17:39:50 |
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MERLIN |
I said this many times, it's more obvious in dsoma because of the need for 4th staff and lack of everyone having 5th axe
An uninterruptable aura that is interrupted by a proc seemed off I got told to stop crying and get over it as it was 'the only defense' against mages I got annoyed enough that I just stopped playing mage for the most part
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[quote="MERLIN"]I said this many times, it's more obvious in dsoma because of the need for 4th staff and lack of everyone having 5th axe
An uninterruptable aura that is interrupted by a proc seemed off
I got told to stop crying and get over it as it was 'the only defense' against mages
I got annoyed enough that I just stopped playing mage for the most part[/quote]
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#2 2021/08/23 07:50:17 |
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SB99 |
I remember you shared a video about this over a year ago. I didn't play Dsoma at the time and it looked completely ridiculous to me. It shouldn't be a thing as much as 1 shots.
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#3 2021/08/23 13:48:11 |
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"SB99"I remember you shared a video about this over a year ago. I didn't play Dsoma at the time and it looked completely ridiculous to me. It shouldn't be a thing as much as 1 shots. Don’t want to ‘call sides’ but as it was merlin posting it and goldkim procing the amount of mutiny and dl chars that supported dispel was unreal… very much as merlin has said… Ultimately we need to get over this ‘one side vs. Other’ to ensure the game is balanced not one thing more dominant. But at the minute it’s all about sides and which class is good and any suggestion against it is thrown down and pissed on and calls of ‘nerfing’ particular classes or chars. Until everyone can come together to suggest a whole rebalance it’s not worth it. My 2 pence on this subject nerf dispel, nerf all proc…
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[quote="AXOM"][quote="SB99"]I remember you shared a video about this over a year ago. I didn't play Dsoma at the time and it looked completely ridiculous to me. It shouldn't be a thing as much as 1 shots.[/quote]
Don’t want to ‘call sides’ but as it was merlin posting it and goldkim procing the amount of mutiny and dl chars that supported dispel was unreal… very much as merlin has said…
Ultimately we need to get over this ‘one side vs. Other’ to ensure the game is balanced not one thing more dominant. But at the minute it’s all about sides and which class is good and any suggestion against it is thrown down and pissed on and calls of ‘nerfing’ particular classes or chars.
Until everyone can come together to suggest a whole rebalance it’s not worth it.
My 2 pence on this subject nerf dispel, nerf all proc… [/quote]
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#4 2021/08/23 20:56:15 |
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SB99 |
I don't remember the post too well but can remember well enough there were omerta guild members against merlin too.
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#5 2021/08/24 08:45:18 |
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AXOM |
"SB99"I don't remember the post too well but can remember well enough there were omerta guild members against merlin too. Here is link to said thread: https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=39921&title=game+breaking&Page=1 Interestingly it talks about 1 bang procs on mages being overpowered, yet this is the most defended point from mages…. 1 cannot come without the other. Reference shutting down mages, this was ok until cast speed was changed now around sub 800 Rec bows only interrupt… even then I’ve seen a cast pop off in between.
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[quote="AXOM"][quote="SB99"]I don't remember the post too well but can remember well enough there were omerta guild members against merlin too. [/quote]
Here is link to said thread: [url]https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=39921&title=game+breaking&Page=1[/url]
Interestingly it talks about 1 bang procs on mages being overpowered, yet this is the most defended point from mages…. 1 cannot come without the other.
Reference shutting down mages, this was ok until cast speed was changed now around sub 800 Rec bows only interrupt… even then I’ve seen a cast pop off in between.[/quote]
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#6 2021/08/24 19:52:47 |
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SB99 |
Ah well it does seem like a put merlin down thread tbh.
Anyway, range proc from bows is stupid. Regarding mage damage again I'll say weaken proc fix + more hp will sort that issue. No need to nerf proc just yet. |
#7 2021/08/25 11:24:56 |
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AXOM |
Unfortunately it seems that way.
I agree proc in general is over powered whether that is damage proc or support proc… it has a range but is far to stackable at the minute… Think a whole proc system review is needed - even without weaken 1 bangs exist. With new valour weps, you either go in armour so your not 4th and hit by a bow, or you go in robes to not be 1/2 hit by a mage. If there’s both, you are lost because you cannot survive both. Bow and Mage remain dominate classes, something to bring the rest in is needed. Agree increased HP to range 1 classes, like to see dex tempered on archers so people cannot rock +80dex gear… and some limitation to amount of proc dealt per hit regardless of support or atk, should be limited to 1 atk and 1 support per hit therefore if you get a weaken and db hit as an example it’s survivable but if the defender does not clear weaken before next atk… in for a rough ride…
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[quote="AXOM"]Unfortunately it seems that way.
I agree proc in general is over powered whether that is damage proc or support proc… it has a range but is far to stackable at the minute…
Think a whole proc system review is needed - even without weaken 1 bangs exist. With new valour weps, you either go in armour so your not 4th and hit by a bow, or you go in robes to not be 1/2 hit by a mage. If there’s both, you are lost because you cannot survive both.
Bow and Mage remain dominate classes, something to bring the rest in is needed. Agree increased HP to range 1 classes, like to see dex tempered on archers so people cannot rock +80dex gear… and some limitation to amount of proc dealt per hit regardless of support or atk, should be limited to 1 atk and 1 support per hit therefore if you get a weaken and db hit as an example it’s survivable but if the defender does not clear weaken before next atk… in for a rough ride…[/quote]
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#8 2021/08/25 14:39:53 |
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KAZOKU |
yup its silly
theres no other use for diamonds on dsoma, so all gets piled on dispell it breaks 4th staff, it stops you from attacking, and procs almost every other hit a possible idea to make serumes last for 10 secs after use, gives alittle breathing room for ppl constantly spaming you with any debuff spells
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[quote="KAZOKU"]yup its silly
theres no other use for diamonds on dsoma, so all gets piled on dispell
it breaks 4th staff, it stops you from attacking, and procs almost every other hit
a possible idea to make serumes last for 10 secs after use, gives alittle breathing room for ppl constantly spaming you with any debuff spells[/quote]
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#9 2021/08/25 19:48:52 |
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ADVANTAGE |
dispel shouldnt have been an upgrade tbh its the opposite version of zombie
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#10 2021/08/25 22:08:20 |
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AXOM |
"ADVANTAGE"dispel shouldnt have been an upgrade tbh its the opposite version of zombie Zombie and dispel shouldn’t be proc should be cast… But until dsoma has a setup similar to hsoma where you need support classes to pk they are obsolete… pointless needing a weaken mage when you 1 smash without 🤷♂️
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[quote="AXOM"][quote="ADVANTAGE"]dispel shouldnt have been an upgrade tbh its the opposite version of zombie[/quote]
Zombie and dispel shouldn’t be proc should be cast…
But until dsoma has a setup similar to hsoma where you need support classes to pk they are obsolete… pointless needing a weaken mage when you 1 smash without 🤷♂️[/quote]
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#11 2021/08/26 07:48:11 |
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"AXOM""SB99"I remember you shared a video about this over a year ago. I didn't play Dsoma at the time and it looked completely ridiculous to me. It shouldn't be a thing as much as 1 shots. Mages (at least from dsoma PoV) are fucking insane.. I have never wanted to play a mage ever and avoided it for years but the state of the game now, Even I am playing one for PvP because it can even 1 bang other mages LOL.. yes dispel is needed.. only way it doesn't is if the entire magic proc system gets reworked / nerfed. These days Dsoma's most popular class to play is mage If people think its ok to have that insane magic damage but also don't want to get dispelled or talk about nerfing magic attack then you guys are just bias and it doesn''t matter which side is requesting it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHiTidwgALU - just look how many dsoma players rocking a mage nowadays
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[quote="AFRO"][quote="AXOM"][quote="SB99"]I remember you shared a video about this over a year ago. I didn't play Dsoma at the time and it looked completely ridiculous to me. It shouldn't be a thing as much as 1 shots.[/quote]
Don’t want to ‘call sides’ but as it was merlin posting it and goldkim procing the amount of mutiny and dl chars that supported dispel was unreal… very much as merlin has said…
Ultimately we need to get over this ‘one side vs. Other’ to ensure the game is balanced not one thing more dominant. But at the minute it’s all about sides and which class is good and any suggestion against it is thrown down and pissed on and calls of ‘nerfing’ particular classes or chars.
Until everyone can come together to suggest a whole rebalance it’s not worth it.
My 2 pence on this subject nerf dispel, nerf all proc… [/quote]
Mages (at least from dsoma PoV) are fucking insane.. I have never wanted to play a mage ever and avoided it for years but the state of the game now, Even I am playing one for PvP because it can even 1 bang other mages LOL.. yes dispel is needed.. only way it doesn't is if the entire magic proc system gets reworked / nerfed.
These days Dsoma's most popular class to play is mage
If people think its ok to have that insane magic damage but also don't want to get dispelled or talk about nerfing magic attack then you guys are just bias and it doesn''t matter which side is requesting it.
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHiTidwgALU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHiTidwgALU[/url] - just look how many dsoma players rocking a mage nowadays[/quote]
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#12 2021/08/29 02:13:49 |
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BIGCLIFFY |
Aye I had goldkim procing it against me @ conti mags like perm. It makes pk / RvR highly fustrating and renders mages useless. I'd say get rid of it or limit it to a lower % .
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#13 2021/08/29 04:09:01 |
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AFRO |
hsoma has eva and devils with dispel proc will struggle to hit a dexy mage or at the very least a mage wearing full eva.. if you want to maximise your damage by not wearing eva than thats to be expected as he is minimising his damage to proc dispel
most hsoma mages can 5th stone targets.. so plan of action eva + stone then switch to proc
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[quote="AFRO"]hsoma has eva and devils with dispel proc will struggle to hit a dexy mage or at the very least a mage wearing full eva.. if you want to maximise your damage by not wearing eva than thats to be expected as he is minimising his damage to proc dispel
most hsoma mages can 5th stone targets.. so plan of action eva + stone then switch to proc[/quote]
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#14 2021/08/29 05:31:43 |
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AXOM |
"AFRO""AXOM""SB99"I remember you shared a video about this over a year ago. I didn't play Dsoma at the time and it looked completely ridiculous to me. It shouldn't be a thing as much as 1 shots. Been saying this for a while, and I know a few others have including mages. Seems that this style of 1 proc bang is all that people can do so spec it and hot for the lucky kill… Pointless dsoma PvP now, proc really needs looking at, each time it triggers it’s like another mage atk… Unfortunately mate, need to look closer to home as to the people who don’t want to get rid of it as believe it’s some sort of conspiracy theory to nerf particular characters… clearly the opposite, but until that attitudes sorted games not worth playing.
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[quote="AXOM"][quote="AFRO"][quote="AXOM"][quote="SB99"]I remember you shared a video about this over a year ago. I didn't play Dsoma at the time and it looked completely ridiculous to me. It shouldn't be a thing as much as 1 shots.[/quote]
Don’t want to ‘call sides’ but as it was merlin posting it and goldkim procing the amount of mutiny and dl chars that supported dispel was unreal… very much as merlin has said…
Ultimately we need to get over this ‘one side vs. Other’ to ensure the game is balanced not one thing more dominant. But at the minute it’s all about sides and which class is good and any suggestion against it is thrown down and pissed on and calls of ‘nerfing’ particular classes or chars.
Until everyone can come together to suggest a whole rebalance it’s not worth it.
My 2 pence on this subject nerf dispel, nerf all proc… [/quote]
Mages (at least from dsoma PoV) are fucking insane.. I have never wanted to play a mage ever and avoided it for years but the state of the game now, Even I am playing one for PvP because it can even 1 bang other mages LOL.. yes dispel is needed.. only way it doesn't is if the entire magic proc system gets reworked / nerfed.
These days Dsoma's most popular class to play is mage
If people think its ok to have that insane magic damage but also don't want to get dispelled or talk about nerfing magic attack then you guys are just bias and it doesn''t matter which side is requesting it.
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHiTidwgALU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHiTidwgALU[/url] - just look how many dsoma players rocking a mage nowadays[/quote]
Been saying this for a while, and I know a few others have including mages. Seems that this style of 1 proc bang is all that people can do so spec it and hot for the lucky kill…
Pointless dsoma PvP now, proc really needs looking at, each time it triggers it’s like another mage atk…
Unfortunately mate, need to look closer to home as to the people who don’t want to get rid of it as believe it’s some sort of conspiracy theory to nerf particular characters… clearly the opposite, but until that attitudes sorted games not worth playing. [/quote]
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