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This damage is a bit silly for a Valour Wep

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adding in proc had massively fucked the PVP system from the get go. wep speeds no being limited fucked the pvp system. weapon damage being massively disproportionate to defence on armours etc fucked the PVP system.

any changes made no matter how late in the game to re-balance should be a welcome change/addition
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]adding in proc had massively fucked the PVP system from the get go. wep speeds no being limited fucked the pvp system. weapon damage being massively disproportionate to defence on armours etc fucked the PVP system. any changes made no matter how late in the game to re-balance should be a welcome change/addition[/quote]
Proc shouldn't exist. Spells should be based on MA and different spells should add ma to it.

So if you've a base of 400 ma light sword lvl 1/2/3/4 would add 5/10/15/20% ect were as now I could have 10k ma but I would only do 220 DMG (if I was range 1/2).

Lvl 4 light arrow at range 8 does 55 DMG. I mean what even is that.

I hope after all the immediate stuff is looked at and done then the powers that be can look at ma and rework the spells system or something. 🤷 #freerange8
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[quote="QUASIMODO"]Proc shouldn't exist. Spells should be based on MA and different spells should add ma to it. So if you've a base of 400 ma light sword lvl 1/2/3/4 would add 5/10/15/20% ect were as now I could have 10k ma but I would only do 220 DMG (if I was range 1/2). Lvl 4 light arrow at range 8 does 55 DMG. I mean what even is that. I hope after all the immediate stuff is looked at and done then the powers that be can look at ma and rework the spells system or something. 🤷 #freerange8[/quote]
Point is also - This debuff is pretty much making all bows apart from Valour bow useless for pvp. May aswell re-skin anything that's not a Valour Bow a Water Gun....

And only a handful of ppl play 10 hours a day to even remotely attempt at making lots of valour bows...
The Average player plays 2-3 hours and logs off. meaning this player will probably get 1 valour bow and if it breaks they have to re-do the whole proccess and it will take them another 3 months to get another valour bow to then break it again and the cycle continues


Proc was a great adition to the game it spiced up PvP, Adv you say it ruined it but I've never sseen you pvp in my life tbh...

We've had so many good PvP battles vs DL alliance before all these debuffs and I feel like all that is ruined now.


All you've done now is changed the meta, ruined bows, ruining proc...
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[quote="LEON1DAS"]Point is also - This debuff is pretty much making all bows apart from Valour bow useless for pvp. May aswell re-skin anything that's not a Valour Bow a Water Gun.... And only a handful of ppl play 10 hours a day to even remotely attempt at making lots of valour bows... The Average player plays 2-3 hours and logs off. meaning this player will probably get 1 valour bow and if it breaks they have to re-do the whole proccess and it will take them another 3 months to get another valour bow to then break it again and the cycle continues Proc was a great adition to the game it spiced up PvP, Adv you say it ruined it but I've never sseen you pvp in my life tbh... We've had so many good PvP battles vs DL alliance before all these debuffs and I feel like all that is ruined now. All you've done now is changed the meta, ruined bows, ruining proc...[/quote]
Remove proc
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[quote="RIN"]Remove proc [/quote]
+1 to removing proc, leave it in for pve or something

when +5 gear is better than +8 ma gear for pvp then you know there is a problem
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[quote="SB99"]+1 to removing proc, leave it in for pve or something when +5 gear is better than +8 ma gear for pvp then you know there is a problem[/quote]
The UC is low because......

Players got fed up of the myth of archers.

Players got fed up with stupidity and op of procs.

Players got fed up of the immature twats hounding them of soma.

Players left due to how you have to get the valour weapons and armour.

Players got fed up of spending months and months farming to blow it all up at the anvil in 30 seconds and having feck all to show for there time invested.

Players got fed up of no end game content.

Want me to continue......
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The UC is low because...... Players got fed up of the myth of archers. Players got fed up with stupidity and op of procs. Players got fed up of the immature twats hounding them of soma. Players left due to how you have to get the valour weapons and armour. Players got fed up of spending months and months farming to blow it all up at the anvil in 30 seconds and having feck all to show for there time invested. Players got fed up of no end game content. Want me to continue......[/quote]
No im Fed up lol
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[quote="SEVENTH_SON"]No im Fed up lol[/quote]
The children!!!
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[quote="LAURIEL"]The children!!![/quote]
I have a suggestion for you Nite. Stand closer. Hope this helps x

Kind regards,
Your leader,
Boris J.
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[quote="BORISJ"]I have a suggestion for you Nite. Stand closer. Hope this helps x Kind regards, Your leader, Boris J.[/quote]
"BORISJ"I have a suggestion for you Nite. Stand closer. Hope this helps x

Kind regards,
Your leader,
Boris J.


I'll stand really close mate :)

@Raven

Most of what you said I agree with but not about how archers and proc made people quit that's a lie, players played for years trying to obtain fast bows and proc sets.

Perfecting their chars is the art of soma.

Yes it's stupid how long it takes to get these new weps and only like 5 people play lots to like even make that ok. For the rest of the usercount it'll take months to even get new weps and arms.

And yes ofc breaking these items that you've spent months trying to obtain will make you quit, you're right.


But what's actually made people quit recently is how they are killing the pvp system, I mean players that don't even pvp are influencing the game when they've no clue...

I'm non throwing shade but if you know how to PvP, you know how PvP works you know that every class has its counter. So if you die it's because you made a mistake and tried fighting a class that's stronger than yours, maybe you were not using the right gear or maybe you just suck.


People who don't pvp shouldn't comment on what makes PvP good or not. These recent changes have shat on PvP so hard. But it's fine I know nothing will happen for it to go back to how it was. The UC won't come back though.

People won't come back to a game were their hard worked for +8 Intense Stingers now do 190 damage at max range. Like I would advice them to stay away because this game has gone the wrong path and people seem to force themselves to believe that this is a great change.


Myth of Archers xD. Just Wear Eva and Dex access JFC! That counters bows.

And to fight 1v1 vs a proc mage you need to wear full Ancient Robes with Vortex / Prism Pendant and anything else that gives you MD > Stone them > Change to a fast melee wep > put on POD gear or STR gear > Attack access and watch them melt.


Everything has a counter.
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[quote="LEON1DAS"][quote="BORISJ"]I have a suggestion for you Nite. Stand closer. Hope this helps x Kind regards, Your leader, Boris J.[/quote] I'll stand really close mate :) @Raven Most of what you said I agree with but not about how archers and proc made people quit that's a lie, players played for years trying to obtain fast bows and proc sets. Perfecting their chars is the art of soma. Yes it's stupid how long it takes to get these new weps and only like 5 people play lots to like even make that ok. For the rest of the usercount it'll take months to even get new weps and arms. And yes ofc breaking these items that you've spent months trying to obtain will make you quit, you're right. But what's actually made people quit recently is how they are killing the pvp system, I mean players that don't even pvp are influencing the game when they've no clue... I'm non throwing shade but if you know how to PvP, you know how PvP works you know that every class has its counter. So if you die it's because you made a mistake and tried fighting a class that's stronger than yours, maybe you were not using the right gear or maybe you just suck. People who don't pvp shouldn't comment on what makes PvP good or not. These recent changes have shat on PvP so hard. But it's fine I know nothing will happen for it to go back to how it was. The UC won't come back though. People won't come back to a game were their hard worked for +8 Intense Stingers now do 190 damage at max range. Like I would advice them to stay away because this game has gone the wrong path and people seem to force themselves to believe that this is a great change. Myth of Archers xD. Just Wear Eva and Dex access JFC! That counters bows. And to fight 1v1 vs a proc mage you need to wear full Ancient Robes with Vortex / Prism Pendant and anything else that gives you MD > Stone them > Change to a fast melee wep > put on POD gear or STR gear > Attack access and watch them melt. Everything has a counter.[/quote]
There's a whole new world out there ....
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[quote="ZUZU"]There's a whole new world out there ....[/quote]
Nite's pc probably can't even run it the poor bastard 😂
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[quote="P3RCY"]Nite's pc probably can't even run it the poor bastard 😂[/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"The UC is low because......

Players got fed up of the myth of archers.

Players got fed up with stupidity and op of procs.

Players got fed up of the immature twats hounding them of soma.

Players left due to how you have to get the valour weapons and armour.

Players got fed up of spending months and months farming to blow it all up at the anvil in 30 seconds and having feck all to show for there time invested.

Players got fed up of no end game content.

Want me to continue......



We don’t deserve it
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[quote="WEDDINGCAKE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]The UC is low because...... Players got fed up of the myth of archers. Players got fed up with stupidity and op of procs. Players got fed up of the immature twats hounding them of soma. Players left due to how you have to get the valour weapons and armour. Players got fed up of spending months and months farming to blow it all up at the anvil in 30 seconds and having feck all to show for there time invested. Players got fed up of no end game content. Want me to continue......[/quote] We don’t deserve it [/quote]
Remove proc... make magical damage scale with MA / Int and keep the weakening/slow/zombie proc stuff making pvp fair

Also add delays to serums so they can't be spammed or used two in a row.
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[quote="BROWNBREAD"]Remove proc... make magical damage scale with MA / Int and keep the weakening/slow/zombie proc stuff making pvp fair Also add delays to serums so they can't be spammed or used two in a row. [/quote]
Changing serums makes zombie ridiculously over powered
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[quote="DETHRONE"]Changing serums makes zombie ridiculously over powered[/quote]

 

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