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Just to give you all some idea on how slow esoma rates actually were and some of you have completely forgot how slow they were.......

I took 6 months out from levelling to focus on crafting, collecting mats back then to go from 101 weapon craft skill to 130 for the second special repair and that was playing on average 12-14 hours a day.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Just to give you all some idea on how slow esoma rates actually were and some of you have completely forgot how slow they were....... I took 6 months out from levelling to focus on crafting, collecting mats back then to go from 101 weapon craft skill to 130 for the second special repair and that was playing on average 12-14 hours a day.[/quote]
sensible way to do rewind here.. is
keep craft skills same rate as now.
introduce free int to 100 ( no xp gained from it )
introduce the original speed of this server
+5+ items cannot be traded ..ofc some stuff will proly still get sold, but not for massive amounts
as regards bots... they can be player managed/ pkd where possible and keep the immu pots out

so much toxicity now.. mostly because of cheating that goes on in 1 shape or another..
players abusing each other and name calling etc.. so fkin stupid for a game full mostly of adults..

no way new players for various reasons will ever start here when they realise the mountain to climb.. same for players that have left..
stupid amounts of bought/sold stuff everywhere.. still no way of preventing it happening further.. nothing to do except ToV once capped ( which is way too quick..thus meaning boredom sets in quicker )... maybe more levels might be introduced.. but the damage is already done

time for a new start..

this may not be perfect but can only be an improvement on what's on the table atm

So +1 to server wipe...but not wait till 2024 ( diablo 4 in June )
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[quote="LUP2SCUS"]sensible way to do rewind here.. is keep craft skills same rate as now. introduce free int to 100 ( no xp gained from it ) introduce the original speed of this server +5+ items cannot be traded ..ofc some stuff will proly still get sold, but not for massive amounts as regards bots... they can be player managed/ pkd where possible and keep the immu pots out so much toxicity now.. mostly because of cheating that goes on in 1 shape or another.. players abusing each other and name calling etc.. so fkin stupid for a game full mostly of adults.. no way new players for various reasons will ever start here when they realise the mountain to climb.. same for players that have left.. stupid amounts of bought/sold stuff everywhere.. still no way of preventing it happening further.. nothing to do except ToV once capped ( which is way too quick..thus meaning boredom sets in quicker )... maybe more levels might be introduced.. but the damage is already done time for a new start.. this may not be perfect but can only be an improvement on what's on the table atm So +1 to server wipe...but not wait till 2024 ( diablo 4 in June )[/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"Just to give you all some idea on how slow esoma rates actually were and some of you have completely forgot how slow they were.......

I took 6 months out from levelling to focus on crafting, collecting mats back then to go from 101 weapon craft skill to 130 for the second special repair and that was playing on average 12-14 hours a day.


People forget just how slow it was. They forget the sheer attrition of players once they got through the first 25-30 levels or so.

You can tell certain people really don't remember it because they keep saying things like "limit upgrades to +5". That was the big issue with esoma really, wasn't it? All that over powered gear everyone had. Hi Loopy.
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[quote="3D"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]Just to give you all some idea on how slow esoma rates actually were and some of you have completely forgot how slow they were....... I took 6 months out from levelling to focus on crafting, collecting mats back then to go from 101 weapon craft skill to 130 for the second special repair and that was playing on average 12-14 hours a day.[/quote] People forget just how slow it was. They forget the sheer attrition of players once they got through the first 25-30 levels or so. You can tell certain people really don't remember it because they keep saying things like "limit upgrades to +5". That was the big issue with esoma really, wasn't it? All that over powered gear everyone had. Hi Loopy. [/quote]
i'm not saying limit upgrades to +5 ..saying they are untradeable at +5+
so either make your own or click a crafter to do the upgrade

and hi
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[quote="LUP2SCUS"]i'm not saying limit upgrades to +5 ..saying they are untradeable at +5+ so either make your own or click a crafter to do the upgrade and hi[/quote]
Think you may have rather missed the point i was making there. Don't worry about it, someone will explain it for you.
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[quote="3D"]Think you may have rather missed the point i was making there. Don't worry about it, someone will explain it for you.[/quote]
well you made your point.. maybe better if you explain it
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[quote="LUP2SCUS"]well you made your point.. maybe better if you explain it[/quote]
I think what 3D is meaning is in that, some of you have forgot what esoma was, slow rates and I mean bloody slow, that also includes drop rates where nonexistent, there wasn’t this +2 guarantee crap. Lucky to have +2,+3 items.

If players really want to experience the old esoma then you can’t pick and choose which parts you want to recreate it’s all or nothing.

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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I think what 3D is meaning is in that, some of you have forgot what esoma was, slow rates and I mean bloody slow, that also includes drop rates where nonexistent, there wasn’t this +2 guarantee crap. Lucky to have +2,+3 items. If players really want to experience the old esoma then you can’t pick and choose which parts you want to recreate it’s all or nothing. [/quote]
ok that's understood ofc.. my suggestion above was a wipe.. and restart with this server's original speed .. but keeping the current craft rates
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[quote="LUP2SCUS"]ok that's understood ofc.. my suggestion above was a wipe.. and restart with this server's original speed .. but keeping the current craft rates[/quote]
Editing your posts to completely change what you said is such a scummy thing to do, buddy.
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[quote="3D"]Editing your posts to completely change what you said is such a scummy thing to do, buddy. [/quote]
ive edited nothing

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[quote="LUP2SCUS"]ive edited nothing [/quote]
I had maybe 4 rdt and 1 dt drop in my entire esoma time. It was only due to high UC there was the ability for trading. This game could not survive the esoma way, there wouldn’t be any economy, trading wouldn’t exist.

I understand the lure of esoma it’s what brought many of us to this server, playing this game we all love, but believe me when I say this it was a bloody grind like no other game I’ve ever played getting .2-3 stats per day 12-14 hours per day can be soul destroying. Click and dragging mats for each attempt millions and millions of times for what seems like .1-2 skill ain’t good for you wrist.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I had maybe 4 rdt and 1 dt drop in my entire esoma time. It was only due to high UC there was the ability for trading. This game could not survive the esoma way, there wouldn’t be any economy, trading wouldn’t exist. I understand the lure of esoma it’s what brought many of us to this server, playing this game we all love, but believe me when I say this it was a bloody grind like no other game I’ve ever played getting .2-3 stats per day 12-14 hours per day can be soul destroying. Click and dragging mats for each attempt millions and millions of times for what seems like .1-2 skill ain’t good for you wrist.[/quote]
apart from Nite.. don't think any1 is asking for esoma rates

anyway..

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[quote="LUP2SCUS"]apart from Nite.. don't think any1 is asking for esoma rates anyway.. .[/quote]
It seems that the European servers have changed so much that it has become a difficult game to adapt to. In a way, the game has evolved a lot. Europe is mentioned even in the place where the server is being built, but only the stats of monsters and characters are referenced. Leveling up, various skills, and various hunting grounds seem to be lacking in Europe. We are preparing to open such a server in Korea as well. I don't have the technology, but I'm making a server with perfection. The version is the early soma way. like this esoma
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[quote="SKYDARK"]It seems that the European servers have changed so much that it has become a difficult game to adapt to. In a way, the game has evolved a lot. Europe is mentioned even in the place where the server is being built, but only the stats of monsters and characters are referenced. Leveling up, various skills, and various hunting grounds seem to be lacking in Europe. We are preparing to open such a server in Korea as well. I don't have the technology, but I'm making a server with perfection. The version is the early soma way. like this esoma[/quote]
Sad to say this day was always going to happen and feels like the passion has gone for sorting it out.
No offence but so much could of and should of been done a long time ago,
Hate to say it but it feel's like the end of game just like it did on test server rip wifey who is alive on my own server :p
so much was added with out proper thought. no offence meant but simple fixes would of been a good place to start balancing being one,

The wep's att's arm def's ballance was key 1v1 was a fun and now proc ddts zombie no stone all the good ideas at the time have sealed soma's fate and i agree with lupi make your own stuff keep upgrade system the same so other can rip the stuffings out of other people things lol, Make items un tradeable fk it. sell nothing just matt's make a market, In game there is no barr and the only things of value is d/tabs and anything to do with ss's make tabs rare? or just quest's on repeat only/ splurge out tabs to drop at event easter/xmas make them fun and worth while again, sorry to be brutal but again it's just an opinion, less is more?

dsoma you can't speed a wep up more than +5, sounds a good plan on hsoma then +5 max anything even consider lowering val wep skill to say 220? least can use a 2nd half decent wep and val wep dura end game say at tov dura is an issue :( would like to see an increase in dura.

Make people work for stuff and not have it on a plate 3k hours to make a cha and now 600 hours.
What i am getting at server really needs being fair to all = fun for all, if one person can get something we can all get with out being a god? souls well we wont go there never had a set so say no more, so quest them?
quest 6 dex/str stuff remove d/tabs tabs loads will not agree but it's fkd the game up.

Bring back the 13% acc and eva then that will be a start to even it up. have all that dex i want all that acc to hit you, that's fair. that damage " remove pot delay proc damage why?" nothing fun if rly honest 1 hitting someone, well maybe Kim but i got sick of that ages ago. was soon removed when i worked it out when first came out that as an archer wearing a full set with 100 int would hit say papapilas in arena doing 1150 on the dummy killing him with 1 hit lol with a bow, i was op and that was removed with out notice.

It's now as it was back then but we can all do it now "not one person should have an advantage over somebody else" to fast not enough def. balance races with armours def wep att's give hsoma more bag weight. dsoma mp even. tabs can even drop to add 1 hp stat or 1 mp stat. in a nut shell lower val wep attacks both race or fix armours rip me if you like but most know all this is true so past caring so has to be said.
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[quote="HAND0"]Sad to say this day was always going to happen and feels like the passion has gone for sorting it out. No offence but so much could of and should of been done a long time ago, Hate to say it but it feel's like the end of game just like it did on test server rip wifey who is alive on my own server :p so much was added with out proper thought. no offence meant but simple fixes would of been a good place to start balancing being one, The wep's att's arm def's ballance was key 1v1 was a fun and now proc ddts zombie no stone all the good ideas at the time have sealed soma's fate and i agree with lupi make your own stuff keep upgrade system the same so other can rip the stuffings out of other people things lol, Make items un tradeable fk it. sell nothing just matt's make a market, In game there is no barr and the only things of value is d/tabs and anything to do with ss's make tabs rare? or just quest's on repeat only/ splurge out tabs to drop at event easter/xmas make them fun and worth while again, sorry to be brutal but again it's just an opinion, less is more? dsoma you can't speed a wep up more than +5, sounds a good plan on hsoma then +5 max anything even consider lowering val wep skill to say 220? least can use a 2nd half decent wep and val wep dura end game say at tov dura is an issue :( would like to see an increase in dura. Make people work for stuff and not have it on a plate 3k hours to make a cha and now 600 hours. What i am getting at server really needs being fair to all = fun for all, if one person can get something we can all get with out being a god? souls well we wont go there never had a set so say no more, so quest them? quest 6 dex/str stuff remove d/tabs tabs loads will not agree but it's fkd the game up. Bring back the 13% acc and eva then that will be a start to even it up. have all that dex i want all that acc to hit you, that's fair. that damage " remove pot delay proc damage why?" nothing fun if rly honest 1 hitting someone, well maybe Kim but i got sick of that ages ago. was soon removed when i worked it out when first came out that as an archer wearing a full set with 100 int would hit say papapilas in arena doing 1150 on the dummy killing him with 1 hit lol with a bow, i was op and that was removed with out notice. It's now as it was back then but we can all do it now "not one person should have an advantage over somebody else" to fast not enough def. balance races with armours def wep att's give hsoma more bag weight. dsoma mp even. tabs can even drop to add 1 hp stat or 1 mp stat. in a nut shell lower val wep attacks both race or fix armours rip me if you like but most know all this is true so past caring so has to be said. [/quote]
I do think the game overdue a wipe, think once it's been live long enough that ppl have multiple characters with every possible craft themselves, then it's been live to long

Tho for a wipe to be successfull you would need to fix some of the current issues, pervent bots ect ect

Rates could be slower, tho drops could defently do with a increase, don't mind the anvil being brutal long as you don't feel like you wasted a month for fuck all
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[quote="KAZOKU"]I do think the game overdue a wipe, think once it's been live long enough that ppl have multiple characters with every possible craft themselves, then it's been live to long Tho for a wipe to be successfull you would need to fix some of the current issues, pervent bots ect ect Rates could be slower, tho drops could defently do with a increase, don't mind the anvil being brutal long as you don't feel like you wasted a month for fuck all[/quote]

 

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