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BLACKHAT |
With all the talk about knuckle not being viable and sword having been buffed.
I'd like to understand how stat gains work a little better, can anyone fill me in on the details? |
#1 2013/10/31 09:42:28 |
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RAZOR |
I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents:
Axe - 80% str, 20% dex Spear- 65% str 35% dex Sword - 60% str 40% dex knuck - 45% str 55% dex bow - 30% str 70% dex |
#2 2013/10/31 10:23:13 |
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BLACKHAT |
"RAZOR"I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents: What about what Isylver said in another thread, that DEX is based on your STR. What does this mean exactly?
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[quote="BLACKHAT"][quote="RAZOR"]I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents:
Axe - 80% str, 20% dex
Spear- 65% str 35% dex
Sword - 60% str 40% dex
knuck - 45% str 55% dex
bow - 30% str 70% dex
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What about what Isylver said in another thread, that DEX is based on your STR. What does this mean exactly? [/quote]
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#3 2013/10/31 10:26:39 |
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RAZOR |
Yeah I would like to know this too. For example if an axe char has 60 str and 30 dex and a knuckle user has 40 str and 30 dex. If they both switch to bow will the knuckle user gain dex faster?
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#4 2013/10/31 11:58:29 |
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S0RCERER |
"RAZOR"I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents: Your Bow one is so far out ^^ Bow is something akin to 55% dex 45% str. (And knuck more 50-50)
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="RAZOR"]I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents:
Axe - 80% str, 20% dex
Spear- 65% str 35% dex
Sword - 60% str 40% dex
knuck - 45% str 55% dex
bow - 30% str 70% dex
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Your Bow one is so far out ^^
Bow is something akin to 55% dex 45% str. (And knuck more 50-50)
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#5 2013/10/31 12:29:33 |
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GHOSTLORD |
There was a list on the old forum, I searched for it but couldn't find it. :(
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#6 2013/10/31 12:34:04 |
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REDVEX |
Closest i can find is;
axe : 170 str / 30 dex sword : 100 str / 100 dex spear : 150 str / 50 dex knuckle 70 str / 130 dex bow : 30 str / 170 dex |
#7 2013/10/31 12:37:51 |
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SCOIN |
They all look miles out.
As said above it depends on the chars current stats and skill level. Take sword., as ive leveled with it, at some points its given 3 str gains to 1 dex and at other times its given 1 str gain to 1 dex gain. From memory of sword on esoma it mostly gave 3 str to 1 dex all the way to 200 skill with a really shit phase around the 90 str mark. I dont recall sword giving 1 for 1 for a length of time like it has here. It also depends on how much you train your second weapin too. For instance if you are sword and you keep bow skill close to sword skill your dex gains with sword will slow as you would already have higher dex to str than if you did only sword.
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[quote="SCOIN"]They all look miles out.
As said above it depends on the chars current stats and skill level.
Take sword., as ive leveled with it, at some points its given 3 str gains to 1 dex and at other times its given 1 str gain to 1 dex gain.
From memory of sword on esoma it mostly gave 3 str to 1 dex all the way to 200 skill with a really shit phase around the 90 str mark.
I dont recall sword giving 1 for 1 for a length of time like it has here.
It also depends on how much you train your second weapin too. For instance if you are sword and you keep bow skill close to sword skill your dex gains with sword will slow as you would already have higher dex to str than if you did only sword.[/quote]
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#8 2013/10/31 13:13:18 |
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NEOXIAN |
Scoin the reason for sword on this server is because it was changed to a 100 str 100 Dex class in release notes for hsoma and 90/90/80 con for dsoma it was 150/90/70 on esoma
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#9 2013/10/31 13:15:53 |
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SCOIN |
"NEOXIAN"Scoin the reason for sword on this server is because it was changed to a 100 str 100 Dex class in release notes for hsoma and 90/90/80 con for dsoma it was 150/90/70 on esoma So when ppl say it's been buffed does this mean it now gives slower str or faster dex than how it was in hsoma?
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[quote="SCOIN"][quote="NEOXIAN"]Scoin the reason for sword on this server is because it was changed to a 100 str 100 Dex class in release notes for hsoma and 90/90/80 con for dsoma it was 150/90/70 on esoma[/quote]
So when ppl say it's been buffed does this mean it now gives slower str or faster dex than how it was in hsoma?
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#10 2013/10/31 13:22:34 |
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RAVER |
"BLACKHAT""RAZOR"I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents: I noticed on test server the more str you had the long dex took, 150 str 115 dex on 1 char at BLG dex was slow and was also slow at shanis as they was dying to quick different char with 108 str and 130+ dex at shanis was getting dex still and faster than my other char
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[quote="RAVER"][quote="BLACKHAT"][quote="RAZOR"]I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents:
Axe - 80% str, 20% dex
Spear- 65% str 35% dex
Sword - 60% str 40% dex
knuck - 45% str 55% dex
bow - 30% str 70% dex
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What about what Isylver said in another thread, that DEX is based on your STR. What does this mean exactly? [/quote]
I noticed on test server the more str you had the long dex took,
150 str 115 dex on 1 char at BLG dex was slow and was also slow at shanis as they was dying to quick
different char with 108 str and 130+ dex at shanis was getting dex still and faster than my other char
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#11 2013/10/31 13:29:48 |
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NEOXIAN |
It was buffed for hsoma because it is a perfect weapon to get str Dex gains in unity, for dsoma some consider the con gain as a buff but the fact str gains are reduced by 33% in my opinion ruined the class.
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#12 2013/10/31 13:45:20 |
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BLACKHAT |
"RAVER""BLACKHAT""RAZOR"I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents: Thanks, that is really interesting. I wonder what a pure swordie would be like, because I was planning to go pure sword.
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[quote="BLACKHAT"][quote="RAVER"][quote="BLACKHAT"][quote="RAZOR"]I'd like to think it was something like this, but this is highly inaccurate but thought i'd give my 2 cents:
Axe - 80% str, 20% dex
Spear- 65% str 35% dex
Sword - 60% str 40% dex
knuck - 45% str 55% dex
bow - 30% str 70% dex
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What about what Isylver said in another thread, that DEX is based on your STR. What does this mean exactly? [/quote]
I noticed on test server the more str you had the long dex took,
150 str 115 dex on 1 char at BLG dex was slow and was also slow at shanis as they was dying to quick
different char with 108 str and 130+ dex at shanis was getting dex still and faster than my other char
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Thanks, that is really interesting. I wonder what a pure swordie would be like, because I was planning to go pure sword.[/quote]
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#13 2013/10/31 13:49:08 |
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BLACKHAT |
"NEOXIAN"It was buffed for hsoma because it is a perfect weapon to get str Dex gains in unity, for dsoma some consider the con gain as a buff but the fact str gains are reduced by 33% in my opinion ruined the class. Where is the thread detailing these changes?
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[quote="BLACKHAT"][quote="NEOXIAN"]It was buffed for hsoma because it is a perfect weapon to get str Dex gains in unity, for dsoma some consider the con gain as a buff but the fact str gains are reduced by 33% in my opinion ruined the class.[/quote]
Where is the thread detailing these changes?[/quote]
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#14 2013/10/31 13:49:56 |
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SCOIN |
"NEOXIAN"It was buffed for hsoma because it is a perfect weapon to get str Dex gains in unity, for dsoma some consider the con gain as a buff but the fact str gains are reduced by 33% in my opinion ruined the class. Thats what I mean. You could look at it that str gain is reduced or is it that dex has been increased? Im sure that at my current str on esoma I got str gains in 2.5%, here im getting in 3.7%.
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[quote="SCOIN"][quote="NEOXIAN"]It was buffed for hsoma because it is a perfect weapon to get str Dex gains in unity, for dsoma some consider the con gain as a buff but the fact str gains are reduced by 33% in my opinion ruined the class.[/quote]
Thats what I mean. You could look at it that str gain is reduced or is it that dex has been increased?
Im sure that at my current str on esoma I got str gains in 2.5%, here im getting in 3.7%.
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#15 2013/10/31 13:52:23 |
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