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YOSHIMITSU |
The idea is simple, donating money so ISylver/Finito or someone external they can bring in for this one off can work for however long someone is willing to work for the money we provide, to work and update the server. This isn't me having a go at ISylver or Finito because I have nothing but appreciation for the work they've done with this server but they have their own lives to live not just soma (Unlike some of us :D ). There's been a fair few idea's mentioned recently, I know they'll have been taken on board by Isylver and Finito i've never questioned that. There just seems to be so many things that could be implemented to improve the server that people have suggested that I can't see happening because they simply don't have the time/resources to do them.
I don't know about anyone else but I'd happily donate £5/£10 to this server to see all of the promising things posted in the ideas section of this forum implemented into the server. A few of the idea's are in threads below. 1 - Idea's for casuals & an overhaul for dungeons as D1/D2 and apart from DW's D3 is wasted. 2 - Conti refurb so EVERYONE will want to hunt there, regardless of level 3 - I'm sure there is something in the works for end game, but this seemed like a great idea and money sink as bar is becoming more and more worthless like it did in esoma 4 - Basic things like a search bar for forums 5 - The armoury actually showing what monsters drop, not just a selection of their items 6 - Dura warnings to be changed as at the minute they are so low 7 - Nerfed res scrolls, wouldnt let me link it! http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=882&title=Nerf+res+scrolls!+&Page=1 8 - Precasting needs to be fixed, you need the option to be able to disable auto cast whenever you like. Precasting weaken then to use DB afterwards just doesn't work, you just cast weaken instantly again afterwards and is impossible to surprise someone 1 vs 1 which was the best part about pre casting weaken on esoma 9 - Consolidate the maps more, dungeon, Abias and Merc are all so wasted , not just in my own eyes but alot of people i've spoken to in game about this. You out level kobs and scale raps so quickly, the whole of those mountains are in effect wasted when they could use a smaller spawn, to help the lower levels get out of the low levels quicker. Abias - like the far left side where WB and Xeno are, the top of the map, alot of the space is wasted as the SC ad DS spawns don't take up alot of the room there. I know it's meant to be a desert but it's baron at times. Dungeon - As mentioned above, levels 1/2 are wasted when it is such a good area to have. Again this isn't me having a rant or a go at anyone at all, i'm 100% grateful for everything we've been given here but I just think there's alot of things that could be improved to make the whole game a more enjoyable experience for everyone.
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]The idea is simple, donating money so ISylver/Finito or someone external they can bring in for this one off can work for however long someone is willing to work for the money we provide, to work and update the server. This isn't me having a go at ISylver or Finito because I have nothing but appreciation for the work they've done with this server but they have their own lives to live not just soma (Unlike some of us :D ). There's been a fair few idea's mentioned recently, I know they'll have been taken on board by Isylver and Finito i've never questioned that. There just seems to be so many things that could be implemented to improve the server that people have suggested that I can't see happening because they simply don't have the time/resources to do them.
I don't know about anyone else but I'd happily donate £5/£10 to this server to see all of the promising things posted in the ideas section of this forum implemented into the server.
A few of the idea's are in threads below.
1 - [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=1370&title=Ideas+for+the+casuals...&Page=1]Idea's for casuals & an overhaul for dungeons as D1/D2 and apart from DW's D3 is wasted.[/url]
2 - [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=1409&title=Conti+map+refurb.&Page=1]Conti refurb so [b]EVERYONE[/b] will want to hunt there, regardless of level[/url]
3 - [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=1304&title=End+game+content+-+Idea+thread&Page=1]I'm sure there is something in the works for end game, but this seemed like a great idea and money sink as bar is becoming more and more worthless like it did in esoma[/url]
4 - [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=1257&title=Search+function&Page=1]Basic things like a search bar for forums[/url]
5 - [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=1738&title=The+armory&Page=1]The armoury actually showing what monsters drop, not just a selection of their items[/url]
6 - [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=1466&title=Dura+warnings&Page=1]Dura warnings to be changed as at the minute they are so low[/url]
7 - Nerfed res scrolls, wouldnt let me link it!
http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=882&title=Nerf+res+scrolls!+&Page=1
8 - Precasting needs to be fixed, you need the option to be able to disable auto cast whenever you like. Precasting weaken then to use DB afterwards just doesn't work, you just cast weaken instantly again afterwards and is impossible to surprise someone 1 vs 1 which was the best part about pre casting weaken on esoma
9 - Consolidate the maps more, dungeon, Abias and Merc are all so wasted , not just in my own eyes but alot of people i've spoken to in game about this. You out level kobs and scale raps so quickly, the whole of those mountains are in effect wasted when they could use a smaller spawn, to help the lower levels get out of the low levels quicker.
Abias - like the far left side where WB and Xeno are, the top of the map, alot of the space is wasted as the SC ad DS spawns don't take up alot of the room there. I know it's meant to be a desert but it's baron at times.
Dungeon - As mentioned above, levels 1/2 are wasted when it is such a good area to have.
Again this isn't me having a rant or a go at anyone at all, i'm 100% grateful for everything we've been given here but I just think there's alot of things that could be improved to make the whole game a more enjoyable experience for everyone. [/quote]
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#1 2014/01/10 00:36:55 |
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IMCON |
I agree completely. Question though: Is there an easy way to donate without buying a shout scroll? If so, someone post the link for easy access.
Of course the issue will be, can enough people donate such that they can really invest more time in this? It takes quite a chunk of change for someone to work less hours or quit their job :p
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[quote="IMCON"]I agree completely. Question though: Is there an easy way to donate without buying a shout scroll? If so, someone post the link for easy access.
Of course the issue will be, can enough people donate such that they can really invest more time in this? It takes quite a chunk of change for someone to work less hours or quit their job :p[/quote]
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#2 2014/01/10 01:08:16 |
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DUSKY |
Hit the nail on the head!
Likewise, I really appreciate what the team has done! Would happily donate, tried once...... for whatever reason Paypal doesn't seem to like me anymore :( Brought this up with gm awhile back, I don't think there will be an alternative way to donate... shame Wondered if any/many people either refuse to use Paypal or are just unable to?
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[quote="DUSKY"]Hit the nail on the head!
Likewise, I really appreciate what the team has done!
Would happily donate, tried once...... for whatever reason Paypal doesn't seem to like me anymore :(
Brought this up with gm awhile back, I don't think there will be an alternative way to donate...
shame
Wondered if any/many people either refuse to use Paypal or are just unable to?[/quote]
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#3 2014/01/10 06:32:51 |
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Some good ideas on improving Hsoma there, maybe we can consolidate these with some ideas for Dsoma and get a definitive list of changes we would like to see. Then costings and time can be quoted to give an idea of how much would be needed.
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#4 2014/01/10 07:38:35 |
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I appreciate the thread. However neither myself or Finito or driven by money. It's purely time based.
Of course most of my time is spent at work which then is driven by money... but you get the point. P.S Just changed the armory to show all items of a monster drop enjoy.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]I appreciate the thread. However neither myself or Finito or driven by money. It's purely time based.
Of course most of my time is spent at work which then is driven by money... but you get the point.
P.S Just changed the armory to show all items of a monster drop enjoy.[/quote]
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#5 2014/01/10 07:50:10 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
"ISYLVER"I appreciate the thread. However neither myself or Finito or driven by money. It's purely time based. No i totally understand and agree with that, the money however wouldn't be to pay for your time as that's just totally unreasonable, you have a life to live outside of soma. However, someone totally external could be brought in to do it who doesn't play or have anything to do with the server as I know corruption is a big problem when it comes to shit like this!
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="ISYLVER"]I appreciate the thread. However neither myself or Finito or driven by money. It's purely time based.
Of course most of my time is spent at work which then is driven by money... but you get the point.[/quote]
No i totally understand and agree with that, the money however wouldn't be to pay for your time as that's just totally unreasonable, you have a life to live outside of soma. However, someone totally external could be brought in to do it who doesn't play or have anything to do with the server as I know corruption is a big problem when it comes to shit like this! [/quote]
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#6 2014/01/10 07:58:34 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
Of course.
There's also some ideas I don't agree with I like to show what a monster theoretically can drop but I don't want to show specific areas or maps where the items are dropped (for the armory one for example). Ultimately finito has alot more spare time than I do but it's his time to allocate to projects.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]Of course.
There's also some ideas I don't agree with I like to show what a monster theoretically can drop but I don't want to show specific areas or maps where the items are dropped (for the armory one for example).
Ultimately finito has alot more spare time than I do but it's his time to allocate to projects.[/quote]
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#7 2014/01/10 08:01:52 |
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IMCON |
"IMCON" Question though: Is there an easy way to donate without buying a shout scroll? If so, someone post the link for easy access. Answer to the above? Maybe the website should have a donate link. |
#8 2014/01/10 11:24:38 |
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REHLINA |
"IMCON""IMCON" Question though: Is there an easy way to donate without buying a shout scroll? If so, someone post the link for easy access. There was, looks like it's been removed tho
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[quote="REHLINA"][quote="IMCON"][quote="IMCON"] Question though: Is there an easy way to donate without buying a shout scroll? If so, someone post the link for easy access.
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Answer to the above? Maybe the website should have a donate link.[/quote]
There was, looks like it's been removed tho[/quote]
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#9 2014/01/10 11:32:10 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
"ISYLVER"Of course. No and I totally appreciate that, but please do take this under serious consideration as I know there will be a fair amount of players who will donate if they can see in writing what is going to be done in advance, like the list i've produced. It's just a small list for hsoma but it would all make a huge difference to the game play over all I think. All just my two cents really
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="ISYLVER"]Of course.
There's also some ideas I don't agree with I like to show what a monster theoretically can drop but I don't want to show specific areas or maps where the items are dropped (for the armory one for example).
Ultimately finito has alot more spare time than I do but it's his time to allocate to projects.[/quote]
No and I totally appreciate that, but please do take this under serious consideration as I know there will be a fair amount of players who will donate if they can see in writing what is going to be done in advance, like the list i've produced. It's just a small list for hsoma but it would all make a huge difference to the game play over all I think. All just my two cents really[/quote]
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#10 2014/01/10 13:02:45 |
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"YOSHIMITSU""ISYLVER"Of course. To be honest I still don't agree with how you look at it. Our goal is never to get money, so making such a post would never be to get donations - it would be to make the game better, period. Any donations given should be for the love of the game, the store items and to support this game in it's further growth - not to stimulate or motivate the GM's. Of course, this is just nitpicking over details. We will always work to improve this game and donations are always welcome!
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="ISYLVER"]Of course.
There's also some ideas I don't agree with I like to show what a monster theoretically can drop but I don't want to show specific areas or maps where the items are dropped (for the armory one for example).
Ultimately finito has alot more spare time than I do but it's his time to allocate to projects.[/quote]
No and I totally appreciate that, but please do take this under serious consideration as I know there will be a fair amount of players who will donate if they can see in writing what is going to be done in advance, like the list i've produced. It's just a small list for hsoma but it would all make a huge difference to the game play over all I think. All just my two cents really[/quote]
To be honest I still don't agree with how you look at it. Our goal is never to get money, so making such a post would never be to get donations - it would be to make the game better, period. Any donations given should be for the love of the game, the store items and to support this game in it's further growth - not to stimulate or motivate the GM's.
Of course, this is just nitpicking over details. We will always work to improve this game and donations are always welcome![/quote]
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#11 2014/01/10 13:42:40 |
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TRICEPTIMOUS |
"GHOSTLORD" Thats exactly what Yoshi is saying. Donate not for the benefit of the GMs, but donate to pay for someone to come in and work full time on soma.... "GHOSTLORD" to make the game better, period.
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[quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]
To be honest I still don't agree with how you look at it. Our goal is never to get money, so making such a post would never be to get donations - it would be to make the game better, period. Any donations given should be for the love of the game, the store items and to support this game in it's further growth - not to stimulate or motivate the GM's.
Of course, this is just nitpicking over details. We will always work to improve this game and donations are always welcome![/quote]
Thats exactly what Yoshi is saying. Donate not for the benefit of the GMs, but donate to pay for someone to come in and work full time on soma....
[quote="GHOSTLORD"] to make the game better, period. [/quote]
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#12 2014/01/10 13:54:08 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
This is 100% to make the game better, not to donate money to the GM's. My wording was horrendeous so I apologise ;p. I meant to donate to the server, to an individual pot that can be allocated to "hire" someone for a set amount of time to make changes to the server that will immediately improve the server as a whole. Apart from the drop files on the armoury I think all of the above are pretty valid points that havn't been given enough attention to detail because of Dan/Finito's time constraints that they have
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]This is 100% to make the game better, not to donate money to the GM's. My wording was horrendeous so I apologise ;p. I meant to donate to the server, to an individual pot that can be allocated to "hire" someone for a set amount of time to make changes to the server that will immediately improve the server as a whole. Apart from the drop files on the armoury I think all of the above are pretty valid points that havn't been given enough attention to detail because of Dan/Finito's time constraints that they have[/quote]
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#13 2014/01/10 14:13:39 |
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GHOSTLORD |
"TRICEPTIMOUS""GHOSTLORD" That is true, however this involves other more important issues. Does this person know anything about Soma? If yes - can he be trusted? Does he hang in a 'click'? Does he think in line with the other gm's? Can he work with the other GM's? Will he do only that what he is told only, or will he show initiative, and how much? How much should he be able to do? If no - How long would it take to learn and understand the game mechanics? How long would it take for him to learn how the database was constructed and reconstructed at least once or twice? How easy is it to work with the systems in place, if you don't know them? I think you get what I'm trying to say. At the moment I think a better strategy is to free up time for the GM's in areas that an advisor can take over. I love the discussion by the way.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]
To be honest I still don't agree with how you look at it. Our goal is never to get money, so making such a post would never be to get donations - it would be to make the game better, period. Any donations given should be for the love of the game, the store items and to support this game in it's further growth - not to stimulate or motivate the GM's.
Of course, this is just nitpicking over details. We will always work to improve this game and donations are always welcome![/quote]
Thats exactly what Yoshi is saying. Donate not for the benefit of the GMs, but donate to pay for someone to come in and work full time on soma....
[quote="GHOSTLORD"] to make the game better, period. [/quote]
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That is true, however this involves other more important issues.
Does this person know anything about Soma?
If yes -
can he be trusted?
Does he hang in a 'click'?
Does he think in line with the other gm's?
Can he work with the other GM's?
Will he do only that what he is told only, or will he show initiative, and how much? How much should he be able to do?
If no -
How long would it take to learn and understand the game mechanics?
How long would it take for him to learn how the database was constructed and reconstructed at least once or twice?
How easy is it to work with the systems in place, if you don't know them?
I think you get what I'm trying to say. At the moment I think a better strategy is to free up time for the GM's in areas that an advisor can take over.
I love the discussion by the way.[/quote]
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#14 2014/01/10 14:17:07 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
"GHOSTLORD" I do totally see where your coming from, the only problem being is that a few of these idea's would take a while to do, some aren't 100% nessesary for the server to work, but it would improve things greatly. I could go into detail on why and how these things among others would improve the game play, but i'll not go into it unless asked. I don't know the ins and outs of who they could bring in but it could be a one off, or a reoccurring thing once every few months if the work load gets too much for Dan and Finito. I don't know, again i'm just spit balling it's upto Dan & Finito. However, it would be great to see a list of changes that could be made by people donating a little bit of cash on a one off. If people can see a list of things (like you posted the other day about what changes had been made up to date, I forget the link) people will be much more willing to donate.
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]
That is true, however this involves other more important issues.
Does this person know anything about Soma?
If yes -
can he be trusted?
Does he hang in a 'click'?
Does he think in line with the other gm's?
Can he work with the other GM's?
Will he do only that what he is told only, or will he show initiative, and how much? How much should he be able to do?
If no -
How long would it take to learn and understand the game mechanics?
How long would it take for him to learn how the database was constructed and reconstructed at least once or twice?
How easy is it to work with the systems in place, if you don't know them?
I think you get what I'm trying to say. At the moment I think a better strategy is to free up time for the GM's in areas that an advisor can take over.
I love the discussion by the way.[/quote]
I do totally see where your coming from, the only problem being is that a few of these idea's would take a while to do, some aren't 100% nessesary for the server to work, but it would improve things greatly. I could go into detail on why and how these things among others would improve the game play, but i'll not go into it unless asked.
I don't know the ins and outs of who they could bring in but it could be a one off, or a reoccurring thing once every few months if the work load gets too much for Dan and Finito. I don't know, again i'm just spit balling it's upto Dan & Finito. However, it would be great to see a list of changes that could be made by people donating a little bit of cash on a one off. If people can see a list of things (like you posted the other day about what changes had been made up to date, I forget the link) people will be much more willing to donate. [/quote]
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