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[quote="XAVIUS"]Hi guys, I have an idea that I feel will benefit the devil soma community. Currently Devil soma is significantly less populated then Human Soma. One thing I often hear from mid level Devil characters is their lack of motivation to continue to play Devil Soma when we don't own the Continental Army map. Currently when a character reaches around level 60 (mage or melee) they ideally want to be hunting Drazil Druids or Evolved Beasts. Both of these mobs spawn in Conti. Due to the lack of population on Devil Soma, humans are smashing us all over the place at WotW and the % change moves so little that we lose for a few weeks on the bounce, without fail. My suggestion is, to allow the mid level devil players to level more freely and therefore, keep them motivated to continue to stick with devil soma and grow our numbers. If we add a spawn of Drazil Druids and Evolved Beasts to Hwan or Infenal Caves then this would solve the problem. I know we have the Dungeon option, but lets face it ..... the mobs there are slow %, rape dura and cost players a ridiculous amount of barr on pots. This is yet again, discouraging to mid level players which I believe we should be assisting and encouraging. Why dont we make it so the new hwan/ic spawns of these mobs drop less barr, and no chance of epic+ tag weaps/armour. Atleast this way, we encourage people to stick with devil soma but also to continue to attend WoTW. I would be interested to hear you opinions, I hope that we can make this idea a reality and try and grow the devil soma population! Cheers[/quote]

[quote="STRIKE"]+1 Was just saying about this In another thread. EB are arguably the most needed mob on dsoma leveling path... think at this stage with the numbers in the state they are adding them to IC would do nothing but help the community. Make the conti ones have a specific quest with a decent reward, like conti KL killing 2000 of these gives a piece of tagged invul I think. Something could be added like this with a decent reward.[/quote]

[quote="ADATH"]Yea it does make life difficult for the lower levels and i appreciate the reason used to be to encourage wotw attendance but low levels dont attend it anyway for fear of being 1 shot! Might help bolster the devils ranks if they had better access to these mobs.[/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]As it stands people don't hunt conti KL that much due to the risk vs increase drops to the IC counterparts. I still think conti mobs across both races should offer a 15% increase in tagged drop rates. Adding EVolved beasts to IC would allow people to continue hunting while we don't own conti but at the same time allow t6 human raids access to come rek people hunting which is something also missing from game. Adding drazil Druid to hwan would fit since trolls are already in IC. Mages would do zero damage to attacking humans with their ridiculous int as well. Add both mobs in there current iteration (same drops) to these maps and it'll be excellent for mid levels and you may actually start seeing mages pop up who aren't laz sorc and adath. I think any negative input to this thread detrimental to adding these mobs in by the cry babies like sorc etc who always come back with 'garg shamans are fine until x int and garg fighters are in dungeon' would be out of order. Let's get the new players interested and also having EB in IC would give a few more epics / intense to the population. +1 please just copy and paste EB database entry to a new location in IC (in the pit under pander portal) and maybe add DD to an area of Cyclopes cliffs. Gogogo please add in :)[/quote]

[quote="STRIKE"]Appreciate the input neo. But why add the s0rcerer stuff you're just casting a line to bait up conflict. Calm your shit before I pk you irl scrub xx[/quote]

[quote="SLAYER"]This is definitely needed, don't think humans have a mob they 100% need (if they don't want to fuck their stats up) on conti?[/quote]

[quote="LOTSO"]Seems logical tbh ...[/quote]

[quote="CREED"]+1 This is an excellent idea. Well overdue in my opinion. [/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]Haha it's more an inb4 comment as the last 20 of these dsoma threads got hijacked. Don't let it detract from the core problem tho! EB and DD to non conti maps!! (Or if you're feeling extremely motivated Dan, I'm sure you'd get a loooot of donations to add same stats but a Palus skin or something 'different' :p[/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"]FYI Gargoyle fighers are actually better for barr than EB due to the insane amount of (nub) armors they drop. That being said, they are quite dexy and the spawn is quite small. I don't see much of a problem with Kharil Lizards in IC as conti should be worth getting. Having increased drops is one way that is currently used. [/quote]

[quote="STRIKE"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]FYI Gargoyle fighers are actually better for barr than EB due to the insane amount of (nub) armors they drop. That being said, they are quite dexy and the spawn is quite small. I don't see much of a problem with Kharil Lizards in IC as conti should be worth getting. Having increased drops is one way that is currently used. [/quote] And quest like the conti kl ones with amour or a tagged epic 121 wep (dreaming a bit) We have faith in you ghost, nudge Dan in the right direction. FYI GF are so annoying. Only advantage to hunting them is if you knux to make use of 3rd [/quote]

[quote="XAVIUS"][quote="GHOSTLORD"] I don't see much of a problem with Kharil Lizards in IC as conti should be worth getting. Having increased drops is one way that is currently used. [/quote] Exactly Ghost, it would be simple enough to make the conti eb's and dd's more desirable then ic/hwan spawns and therefore keeping conti relevant. I really feel this potential change could make a big difference in assisting the devil soma population and quantity of higher level devil's. [/quote]

[quote="EVIL_JR"]Gf are crap Crap to run to Crap to hunt Crap % They drop loads of armour that sells for decent, but your still only talking about 20k a hunt profit after pots and repairs Just delete them EB need there barr putting back to esoma ... 2k/3k a mob loads of people have given up on kl/ wbm from o Barr Reduce wbm int by about 20 And most importantly Up the level cap and sort the game destorying balance issue before theres only axe/ spear running around [/quote]

[quote="DEIMOS"]Could gf stats not be changed to that of eb? I would agree that a Barr boost somewhere is much needed, I healed the majority of wbm and I'm already nearly out of cash for pots and that toward the end of my wbm hunting levels. The conti drop rate for weaps on wbm especially seems appalling, that mixed with the uber dodgy spawn makes me stay in Hwan even when devs own conti (I know this to be true of several others too, and that's without the added risk of humans) Could make wbm easier to hunt but I think the pure levelling speed they give should require some hardship. I completely skipped eb and levelled at gf because didn't own conti through those levels, then granted I only did about 4/5 levels at conti kl in total but only got one very average 'epic' weap so I never noticed any bump in weap drops for conti.[/quote]