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Hi I'm here in behalf of Korean players who obvisiouly seem to have hard time explaining themselves

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This rule seems a bit silly to me,

I don't see the reasons behind it, both the devil char and human are effectively PKing a human char, its like PKing in a group on other maps.

I understand the two races are meant to be at war, but you cant enforce that with a ban if they work together. You could equally then say if you see a devil and don't attempt to kill it you are breaking the rules, or if you let a devil hunt on human conti you are breaking the rules


What if you are PKing on conti and a devil shows up?
Do you then have to work with the guy you were PKing to kill the devil? and then go back to PKing,
Logging onto a devil to clear a hunting area eg LB, but only killing the chars not in your human guild should also be illegal then.

I'm going to admit I haven't read the rules, I play with common sense and don't expect to fall foul of them using this approach
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[quote="TOLE"]This rule seems a bit silly to me, I don't see the reasons behind it, both the devil char and human are effectively PKing a human char, its like PKing in a group on other maps. I understand the two races are meant to be at war, but you cant enforce that with a ban if they work together. You could equally then say if you see a devil and don't attempt to kill it you are breaking the rules, or if you let a devil hunt on human conti you are breaking the rules What if you are PKing on conti and a devil shows up? Do you then have to work with the guy you were PKing to kill the devil? and then go back to PKing, Logging onto a devil to clear a hunting area eg LB, but only killing the chars not in your human guild should also be illegal then. I'm going to admit I haven't read the rules, I play with common sense and don't expect to fall foul of them using this approach[/quote]
If the devil gets last hit it's an automatic drop of items not to mention others have been banned for this in the past so it's been a thing for quite some time now.
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[quote="SECRET"]If the devil gets last hit it's an automatic drop of items not to mention others have been banned for this in the past so it's been a thing for quite some time now. [/quote]
Ah ok I can see some logic there if it is to do with item drops,
Although Conti is conti, you know the risks, you can warp when attacked, g bird whatever. You don't have to stand and fight if you fear your items. 5th Axe may make this somewhat harder, but if you cant outpot the devil doing this to you, they would probably kill you regardless of the humans help or you weren't prepared enough

Although the rules state something like; devils are devils, humans are humans they do not work together.

This could be interpreted many ways in regards to interaction with devils etc
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[quote="TOLE"]Ah ok I can see some logic there if it is to do with item drops, Although Conti is conti, you know the risks, you can warp when attacked, g bird whatever. You don't have to stand and fight if you fear your items. 5th Axe may make this somewhat harder, but if you cant outpot the devil doing this to you, they would probably kill you regardless of the humans help or you weren't prepared enough Although the rules state something like; devils are devils, humans are humans they do not work together. This could be interpreted many ways in regards to interaction with devils etc[/quote]
"TOLE"Ah ok I can see some logic there if it is to do with item drops,
Although Conti is conti, you know the risks, you can warp when attacked, g bird whatever. You don't have to stand and fight if you fear your items. 5th Axe may make this somewhat harder, but if you cant outpot the devil doing this to you, they would probably kill you regardless of the humans help or you weren't prepared enough

Although the rules state something like; devils are devils, humans are humans they do not work together.

This could be interpreted many ways in regards to interaction with devils etc


What if a human drops a 5th axe on another human, then his mate on a devil runs in and smashed the guy whilst 5th'd. The rule is fine and there for a good reason. Unfortunately the Koreans and Chinese probably didn't know about it due to language barrier but hopefully they will now.
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[quote="CYROX"][quote="TOLE"]Ah ok I can see some logic there if it is to do with item drops, Although Conti is conti, you know the risks, you can warp when attacked, g bird whatever. You don't have to stand and fight if you fear your items. 5th Axe may make this somewhat harder, but if you cant outpot the devil doing this to you, they would probably kill you regardless of the humans help or you weren't prepared enough Although the rules state something like; devils are devils, humans are humans they do not work together. This could be interpreted many ways in regards to interaction with devils etc[/quote] What if a human drops a 5th axe on another human, then his mate on a devil runs in and smashed the guy whilst 5th'd. The rule is fine and there for a good reason. Unfortunately the Koreans and Chinese probably didn't know about it due to language barrier but hopefully they will now. [/quote]
I get you I do,

If its all to get dropped items sure,,,, whats diff to a second devil doing this or two devils PKing together? they are going to get items if they kill the human,

I guess my thoughts on conti are its a 'war' map, you shouldn't take special items on there if you cant afford to lose them, if a group of devils attack you your equally screwed. I personally don't see the diff if its all devil or devils and humans,

A human char could level a devil with the sole aim to take people out on conti to win items, no real difference.

I personally don't feel there should be a rule around it, but I don't make the rules.

Now if your sitting there all nice and hunting with a guy and a devil attacks you and he starts attacking you to, I see that as pretty bad form and somewhat debatable but I don't think it should be against the rules either

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[quote="TOLE"]I get you I do, If its all to get dropped items sure,,,, whats diff to a second devil doing this or two devils PKing together? they are going to get items if they kill the human, I guess my thoughts on conti are its a 'war' map, you shouldn't take special items on there if you cant afford to lose them, if a group of devils attack you your equally screwed. I personally don't see the diff if its all devil or devils and humans, A human char could level a devil with the sole aim to take people out on conti to win items, no real difference. I personally don't feel there should be a rule around it, but I don't make the rules. Now if your sitting there all nice and hunting with a guy and a devil attacks you and he starts attacking you to, I see that as pretty bad form and somewhat debatable but I don't think it should be against the rules either [/quote]
Just let it go lol, it's a rule and I doubt it's changing so not much point going over technicalities. Will just have a flood of threads with people moaning about humans and dev mates working together to score kills.
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[quote="SECRET"]Just let it go lol, it's a rule and I doubt it's changing so not much point going over technicalities. Will just have a flood of threads with people moaning about humans and dev mates working together to score kills. [/quote]
That rule is quite important. I've seen devils tank for humans, which clearly isn't the point of dsoma and hsoma.

If the rule isn't clear I can update it for clarity. But it's not going to disappear.

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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]That rule is quite important. I've seen devils tank for humans, which clearly isn't the point of dsoma and hsoma. If the rule isn't clear I can update it for clarity. But it's not going to disappear. [/quote]
I've seen the video. They are clearly working together multiple times. Respect to my guild mate n0legs for fighting back ^^

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[quote="ZYAR"]I've seen the video. They are clearly working together multiple times. Respect to my guild mate n0legs for fighting back ^^ [/quote]
to be fair to the Chinese/ Koreans... They've proly seen all the other players doing the same thing and haven't realised that its '' illegal''
You can say that they should read the rules/ T's n C's ...but remember..if u was playin a chinese game..with no English version of the rules.... how would u get on reading the T's n C's.. these guys learn by watching/ followng what the other players do..
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]to be fair to the Chinese/ Koreans... They've proly seen all the other players doing the same thing and haven't realised that its '' illegal'' You can say that they should read the rules/ T's n C's ...but remember..if u was playin a chinese game..with no English version of the rules.... how would u get on reading the T's n C's.. these guys learn by watching/ followng what the other players do.. [/quote]
Let me get this in line. 187 and Dona got banned coz 187 was tanking conti blg for Dona. So thats same thing. All know 187 and Dona mains or friends etc etc GMs can see who logs what etc :) (DL)
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[quote="MONSTERMAN"]Let me get this in line. 187 and Dona got banned coz 187 was tanking conti blg for Dona. So thats same thing. All know 187 and Dona mains or friends etc etc GMs can see who logs what etc :) (DL)[/quote]
play soma as it is and stop it !

imo who will ask for ban other chars need to be banned !!!
let Gm's figure it out with them ways, its kinda teeny
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[quote="MACHO"]play soma as it is and stop it ! imo who will ask for ban other chars need to be banned !!! let Gm's figure it out with them ways, its kinda teeny [/quote]
how the hell running while logging off called a quicklog.. stupidity at its best.. logging off is part of the game to run away with idiots because what these pkers know is to gank a person 100vs1. i feel sorry for koreans who seems not aware of this rule since it was just recently they participated with pvp.. perhaps a warning would be nice for them before ban.

just my thought..
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[quote="SYBERTOOTH"]how the hell running while logging off called a quicklog.. stupidity at its best.. logging off is part of the game to run away with idiots because what these pkers know is to gank a person 100vs1. i feel sorry for koreans who seems not aware of this rule since it was just recently they participated with pvp.. perhaps a warning would be nice for them before ban. just my thought.. [/quote]
Warnings are nice except when others get banned for the same thing and don't get a warning.
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[quote="SECRET"]Warnings are nice except when others get banned for the same thing and don't get a warning. [/quote]

 

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