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CYROX	Imo 3/2/1/1/1 is fair. I don't agree with starting on 2/2, 3 should be your starting point as a minimum. PM Reply Quote [quote="CYROX"]Imo 3/2/1/1/1 is fair. I don't agree with starting on 2/2, 3 should be your starting point as a minimum. [/quote]	#16 2013/11/13 18:15:46
MONSTER	Getting 100% eva on monsters u train on is pretty silly, i hope it stays low so its actualy hard to achieve 100% on monsters, Pvp is a different matter but aslong as accuracy is the same there shouldnt be a problem PM Reply Quote [quote="MONSTER"]Getting 100% eva on monsters u train on is pretty silly, i hope it stays low so its actualy hard to achieve 100% on monsters, Pvp is a different matter but aslong as accuracy is the same there shouldnt be a problem[/quote]	#17 2013/11/13 18:21:59
FUJITORA	No one will be getting 100% eva on anything any time soon, there is -5% eva on hero boots and -7%/-5% on dodge already... If you read the point i am suggesting changing the first two upgrades from 3 1 to 2 2 to increase the incentive to get to +2 Considering how low the %'s are atm, i dont see any harm in making the first two upgrades give +3 then +2 and +1s after... (A total 1% gain on the current way it is) So +2 you will have +5%, (Instead of 7% previously... PM Reply Quote [quote="FUJITORA"]No one will be getting 100% eva on anything any time soon, there is -5% eva on hero boots and -7%/-5% on dodge already... If you read the point i am suggesting changing the first two upgrades from 3 1 to 2 2 to increase the incentive to get to +2 Considering how low the %'s are atm, i dont see any harm in making the first two upgrades give +3 then +2 and +1s after... (A total 1% gain on the current way it is) So +2 you will have +5%, (Instead of 7% previously...[/quote]	#18 2013/11/13 18:47:23
MONSTER	So u want it buffed, it was nerfed for a reason is all im gunna say PM Reply Quote [quote="MONSTER"]So u want it buffed, it was nerfed for a reason is all im gunna say[/quote]	#19 2013/11/13 18:55:48
GANDALF	I personally don't think it needs changing, Eva/Acc should be hard to make an it is... some players will be happy with +1 3% some will be driven to get to a minimum of +3 5% 3% set with hero boots compared to a 5% set is an extra 6% eva/acc plenty more considerings frogs are not exactly rare on here compared to esoma. PM Reply Quote [quote="GANDALF"]I personally don't think it needs changing, Eva/Acc should be hard to make an it is... some players will be happy with +1 3% some will be driven to get to a minimum of +3 5% 3% set with hero boots compared to a 5% set is an extra 6% eva/acc plenty more considerings frogs are not exactly rare on here compared to esoma. [/quote]	#20 2013/11/13 18:58:42
FUJITORA	If you read the point i am suggesting changing the first two upgrades from 3 1 to 2 2 to increase the incentive to get to +2 That was the main thing i was trying to imply, even if the 1% extra i suggested isnt added in +3 will still be 5% +1 = 2% +2 = 4% +3 = 5% PM Reply Quote [quote="FUJITORA"][quote=]If you read the point i am suggesting changing the first two upgrades from 3 1 to 2 2 to increase the incentive to get to +2 [/quote] That was the main thing i was trying to imply, even if the 1% extra i suggested isnt added in +3 will still be 5% +1 = 2% +2 = 4% +3 = 5%[/quote]	#21 2013/11/13 19:10:19
MONSTER	Does this not just make the 'Rich' get more eva faster than the poor if they cant afford 100s of frogs if the first is nerfed to 2% and the next is also 2% instead of 1%, causing even more of a gap between the high and lows PM Reply Quote [quote="MONSTER"]Does this not just make the 'Rich' get more eva faster than the poor if they cant afford 100s of frogs if the first is nerfed to 2% and the next is also 2% instead of 1%, causing even more of a gap between the high and lows[/quote]	#22 2013/11/13 19:14:12
FUJITORA	Not really, with the amount of frogs people get at prisms, everyone and anyone who hunts them will be able to make +2s. PM Reply Quote [quote="FUJITORA"]Not really, with the amount of frogs people get at prisms, everyone and anyone who hunts them will be able to make +2s.[/quote]	#23 2013/11/13 19:17:27
SCOIN	No change needed imo. PM Reply Quote [quote="SCOIN"]No change needed imo.[/quote]	#24 2013/11/13 21:04:47
GHOSTLORD	"FUJITORA"Not really, with the amount of frogs people get at prisms, everyone and anyone who hunts them will be able to make +2s. The point with +1 is that it hardly has a chance to fail. In the end youwill most likely be better off as it is now. PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="FUJITORA"]Not really, with the amount of frogs people get at prisms, everyone and anyone who hunts them will be able to make +2s.[/quote] The point with +1 is that it hardly has a chance to fail. In the end youwill most likely be better off as it is now.[/quote]	#25 2013/11/14 11:26:00
JIRAIYA	"GHOSTLORD" The point with +1 is that it hardly has a chance to fail. In the end youwill most likely be better off as it is now. Can you clarify what you mean? Hardly has a chance to fail? On the test server after 1 year+ of being capped level and only farming frogs for upgrades (this includes no mercy at elder druids before their dex increase) there was basically 1 set of armor at +3, everyone was stuck at +1 sets because of upgrade fail %s. PM Reply Quote [quote="JIRAIYA"][quote="GHOSTLORD"] The point with +1 is that it hardly has a chance to fail. In the end youwill most likely be better off as it is now.[/quote] Can you clarify what you mean? Hardly has a chance to fail? On the test server after 1 year+ of being capped level and only farming frogs for upgrades (this includes no mercy at elder druids before their dex increase) there was basically 1 set of armor at +3, everyone was stuck at +1 sets because of upgrade fail %s. [/quote]	#26 2013/11/15 04:20:40
GHOSTLORD	"JIRAIYA" "GHOSTLORD" The point with +1 is that it hardly has a chance to fail. In the end youwill most likely be better off as it is now. Can you clarify what you mean? Hardly has a chance to fail? On the test server after 1 year+ of being capped level and only farming frogs for upgrades (this includes no mercy at elder druids before their dex increase) there was basically 1 set of armor at +3, everyone was stuck at +1 sets because of upgrade fail %s. As you get higher upgrades you have a higher chance to fail. PM Reply Quote [quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="JIRAIYA"][quote="GHOSTLORD"] The point with +1 is that it hardly has a chance to fail. In the end youwill most likely be better off as it is now.[/quote] Can you clarify what you mean? Hardly has a chance to fail? On the test server after 1 year+ of being capped level and only farming frogs for upgrades (this includes no mercy at elder druids before their dex increase) there was basically 1 set of armor at +3, everyone was stuck at +1 sets because of upgrade fail %s. [/quote] As you get higher upgrades you have a higher chance to fail.[/quote]	#27 2013/11/15 12:35:36
SCOIN	lol PM Reply Quote [quote="SCOIN"]lol[/quote]	#28 2013/11/15 13:01:51
FUJITORA	Understand that it was nerfed for a reason, but i still think 3 1 1 1 is just a joke tbh, but i guess im the only one... Either way i finally found the success rate table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AomDuVUMhV3mdGpPQTdPYzlKaWIzODRFR3ZSRGI2TUE#gid=0 PM Reply Quote [quote="FUJITORA"]Understand that it was nerfed for a reason, but i still think 3 1 1 1 is just a joke tbh, but i guess im the only one... Either way i finally found the success rate table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AomDuVUMhV3mdGpPQTdPYzlKaWIzODRFR3ZSRGI2TUE#gid=0 [/quote]	#29 2013/12/05 16:23:34
IPHIOS	"FUJITORA"Understand that it was nerfed for a reason, but i still think 3 1 1 1 is just a joke tbh, but i guess im the only one... Either way i finally found the success rate table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AomDuVUMhV3mdGpPQTdPYzlKaWIzODRFR3ZSRGI2TUE#gid=0 Not quite following that table ;o MaxMAkeExp<100 = crafters skill <100 100-149 = skill between those numbers? ;o number in column below is percentage success rate? ;o PM Reply Quote [quote="IPHIOS"][quote="FUJITORA"]Understand that it was nerfed for a reason, but i still think 3 1 1 1 is just a joke tbh, but i guess im the only one... Either way i finally found the success rate table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AomDuVUMhV3mdGpPQTdPYzlKaWIzODRFR3ZSRGI2TUE#gid=0 [/quote] Not quite following that table ;o MaxMAkeExp<100 = crafters skill <100 100-149 = skill between those numbers? ;o number in column below is percentage success rate? ;o[/quote]	#30 2013/12/05 16:49:28

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