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Hi

I did voice my opinion on this on the test forum but perhaps getting a blue reply or thoughts here is easier..

In my opinion Dragon Breath is FAR too powerful! What was the issue in leaving these spells out of the game for an extended period of time or even for good and buffing the normal ones? Or even nerfing the spells like iron fist etc.

Mages already are leveling too fast and I think thats been a general oversight/mistake in this server, i know that sounds harsh but i know MP is in issue, still, int is ridiculous on this server!

Thinking long term.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Hi I did voice my opinion on this on the test forum but perhaps getting a blue reply or thoughts here is easier.. In my opinion Dragon Breath is FAR too powerful! What was the issue in leaving these spells out of the game for an extended period of time or even for good and buffing the normal ones? Or even nerfing the spells like iron fist etc. Mages already are leveling too fast and I think thats been a general oversight/mistake in this server, i know that sounds harsh but i know MP is in issue, still, int is ridiculous on this server! Thinking long term.[/quote]
Yeah int is pretty quick. But I'm sure everyone will catch up at the 65 slowdown (takes roughly 30 minutes for 0.1) .

The same applies for STR. I do agree with you on DB being OP though.
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[quote="ZAO"]Yeah int is pretty quick. But I'm sure everyone will catch up at the 65 slowdown (takes roughly 30 minutes for 0.1) . The same applies for STR. I do agree with you on DB being OP though. [/quote]
Dragons breath should have its mp cost bumped or the cast time increased
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Dragons breath should have its mp cost bumped or the cast time increased [/quote]
bafarlfaff!
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[quote="VUHLSHUN"]bafarlfaff![/quote]
Increasing MP or casting time will ruin the spell completely. Thats the only spell which can damage DEVIL's Severely changing any of the spells on HSOMA will just give DSOMA the extra boost when it comes down to WOTW..

We must own Conti before getting this skill and the way things are going DSOMA will have it for awhile.
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[quote="LANTIAN"]Increasing MP or casting time will ruin the spell completely. Thats the only spell which can damage DEVIL's Severely changing any of the spells on HSOMA will just give DSOMA the extra boost when it comes down to WOTW.. We must own Conti before getting this skill and the way things are going DSOMA will have it for awhile. [/quote]
Thats not to say other spells cant be buffed in terms of level 1/2/3/4 depending on DB/AT/SP people use etc.

Flame arrow and such + MOST other spells are just bypassed completely for iron fist and DB, its ridiculous and such a private server mentality instead of a longevity attitude toward things.

Regardless of harming devils im sure it can be helped in other ways, Human soma wise its a ridiculously overpowered spell especially with 3rd staff aura for leveling.

Again I stress the word longevity.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Thats not to say other spells cant be buffed in terms of level 1/2/3/4 depending on DB/AT/SP people use etc. Flame arrow and such + MOST other spells are just bypassed completely for iron fist and DB, its ridiculous and such a private server mentality instead of a longevity attitude toward things. Regardless of harming devils im sure it can be helped in other ways, Human soma wise its a ridiculously overpowered spell especially with 3rd staff aura for leveling. Again I stress the word longevity. [/quote]
"LANTIAN"Increasing MP or casting time will ruin the spell completely. Thats the only spell which can damage DEVIL's Severely changing any of the spells on HSOMA will just give DSOMA the extra boost when it comes down to WOTW..


Yeah not saying there shouldnt be a spell as powerful or more. Just have an issue with DB being the ONLY spell people use and it was being used in the FIRST human gvw.

level 4 Light Sword an Spirit sword are the coolest an hardest to get so such be the best spell imo. Best spell doesn't have to mean most power. Just make them faster, more mana efficient an a little less power than DB.

DB should be like the old Fire Arrow, you use it for a precast combo or a surprise weaken an 1-2 shot. Needs it's mana req bumped right up.

Makes the choice between black mage or white mage interesting again.
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[quote="LANTANO"][quote="LANTIAN"]Increasing MP or casting time will ruin the spell completely. Thats the only spell which can damage DEVIL's Severely changing any of the spells on HSOMA will just give DSOMA the extra boost when it comes down to WOTW.. [/quote] Yeah not saying there shouldnt be a spell as powerful or more. Just have an issue with DB being the ONLY spell people use and it was being used in the FIRST human gvw. level 4 Light Sword an Spirit sword are the coolest an hardest to get so such be the best spell imo. Best spell doesn't have to mean most power. Just make them faster, more mana efficient an a little less power than DB. DB should be like the old Fire Arrow, you use it for a precast combo or a surprise weaken an 1-2 shot. Needs it's mana req bumped right up. Makes the choice between black mage or white mage interesting again. [/quote]
It's news to me that DB is ever viable for hunting with.

It's news to me that changing MP requirement of a spell will change the usage in PVP.

And given how people die in Soma I don't even think slowing down DB to 5s a cast would actually change mass PVP dynamics.
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[quote="SILENCE"]It's news to me that DB is ever viable for hunting with. It's news to me that changing MP requirement of a spell will change the usage in PVP. And given how people die in Soma I don't even think slowing down DB to 5s a cast would actually change mass PVP dynamics.[/quote]
Maybe increasing DMG/Casting the other spell's IE Light sword / Fire Arrow could tear people away from DB

but you need to be careful now over powering the spell
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[quote="LANTIAN"]Maybe increasing DMG/Casting the other spell's IE Light sword / Fire Arrow could tear people away from DB but you need to be careful now over powering the spell[/quote]
They were already increased if I recall also level3/4 spells are a little stronger.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]They were already increased if I recall also level3/4 spells are a little stronger.[/quote]
"SILENCE"It's news to me that DB is ever viable for hunting with.

It's news to me that changing MP requirement of a spell will change the usage in PVP.

And given how people die in Soma I don't even think slowing down DB to 5s a cast would actually change mass PVP dynamics.



Past 100 int I was using it on esoma & test server. Was very viable.

Probably because mp usage has never been changed? If you could only cast 10 Dragon Breath before going oom, you wouldn't be using it very much in mass pvp like gvw, obviously.

Of course a 5 sec cast time would change things, the intended target would have twice as much time/opportunity to interrupt the cast.

And if MP and cast time being upped wont change anything you wont have an issue with it then, will you? ; )
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[quote="LANTANO"][quote="SILENCE"]It's news to me that DB is ever viable for hunting with. It's news to me that changing MP requirement of a spell will change the usage in PVP. And given how people die in Soma I don't even think slowing down DB to 5s a cast would actually change mass PVP dynamics.[/quote] Past 100 int I was using it on esoma & test server. Was very viable. Probably because mp usage has never been changed? If you could only cast 10 Dragon Breath before going oom, you wouldn't be using it very much in mass pvp like gvw, obviously. Of course a 5 sec cast time would change things, the intended target would have twice as much time/opportunity to interrupt the cast. And if MP and cast time being upped wont change anything you wont have an issue with it then, will you? ; )[/quote]
i have noticed there is eq members moaning about this spell it would however be a different story if thy was to have the DB spell but cause u choose to do str at the start and are unable to get DB u are now moaning cause the is 2 people in h soma that have this spell and yes they have good int and tbh ur out powered by it and i wud dare say tht if u was to get DB once it has been nerfed then u wud be asking for it to be put back to normal
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[quote="KADAAN"]i have noticed there is eq members moaning about this spell it would however be a different story if thy was to have the DB spell but cause u choose to do str at the start and are unable to get DB u are now moaning cause the is 2 people in h soma that have this spell and yes they have good int and tbh ur out powered by it and i wud dare say tht if u was to get DB once it has been nerfed then u wud be asking for it to be put back to normal[/quote]
Not at all, doesn't bother me that people have it ingame. Its the fact that on test server it was a ridiculous spell, and still thats continued over to this server, stress the word longevity and I don't think we're going to get that using such a powerful spell to level with past 90 skill/100 int, it honestly is a joke and mark this post because in a few months you'll be agreeing when people blitz through 140 int etc. its down to the leveling speed and spell powers, far too much.

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[quote="ACAELUS"]Not at all, doesn't bother me that people have it ingame. Its the fact that on test server it was a ridiculous spell, and still thats continued over to this server, stress the word longevity and I don't think we're going to get that using such a powerful spell to level with past 90 skill/100 int, it honestly is a joke and mark this post because in a few months you'll be agreeing when people blitz through 140 int etc. its down to the leveling speed and spell powers, far too much. [/quote]

 

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