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[quote="BARBAS"]Just wondering how you would calculate what mobs are good for dex gains using the armoury, as it has recommended for str and int but not dex... Now assuming you have between 10 and 20 more str then dex, how would you work this in to working out what mobs are good for dex? For example I have 50 dex and 65 str and I know wraith would be best using both bow and sword through experience and word of mouth, but what would be best for lets say 65 dex and 80 str, and 75 dex and 90 str? Note these are just rough stat guesses to use as an example... I may sound stupid asking this but I am a noob when it comes to this sort of stuff... Any reply would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance. [/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]With no real science behind it - if you gain str you will gain dex. Although your attack would determine the rate at which you achieve gains. In terms of speed or by % you would have to test. 65d/80s for me would be DW/BG. 75d/90s would be palus/LB.[/quote]

[quote="SKIEBLUE"]Was thinking about this myself aswell and have been asking around in game. Seems everyone has different views. I'm currently 68 dex and 80+ str testing Lich lord with bow as I can't stand the run too and from devil warrior lol... A lot of people have suggested staying at wraith until about 70 dex then moving on. My only query towards this is, if you are similar stats to myself, and have more str then dex would they still be any good? There low dex on armoury suggest to me they wouldn't be as good as the likes of Dw etc, but a lot say they think wraith are better??? I would also be interested to find out if there was a way of working out what mob is actually the better to hunt. Skieblue...[/quote]

[quote="RAVER"]Only way I know is do it the old fashion way and test, probs the only way since there no dex recommend mobs on a the armoury[/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]The DEX of the monster doesn't factor in any way the DEX you will gain from said mob. Example: If you have 90STR and 90DEX and you are hunting a monster with 130STR and 10DEX, you will continue to gain DEX until your STR reaches 161 (31 above the monster's own STR). Use the Defensive and Offensive DEX values on the armoury solely to determine whether or not you are able to hit the monster (and it hit you). Don't, for a second, assume that in any way affects your stat gains, as it doesn't. Of course, do not go for a monster that has higher defensive DEX than your own, as you won't be able to hit it! Case in point: Scale Raptors (or normal Raptors) everyone hunting them continued to gain DEX from them, but they only have 10DEX, despite you having 30+ while hunting them.[/quote]

[quote="SKIEBLUE"]So in reality the mob with the most str (that can be handled) and the least dex would be best, as you hit them more?[/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="SKIEBLUE"]So in reality the mob with the most str (that can be handled) and the least dex would be best, as you hit them more?[/quote] Precisely, though for efficiency, you'll want to be able to actually hurt the monster and gain decent DEX per %. That said, you'd then need to know the monster's defence (which is not its STR) and it's EXP value, which is also not displayed in the armoury.[/quote]

[quote="SKIEBLUE"]Ok thanks. Last question is how would I find out the mobs defense? Looking at the exp to hp values, it would seem wraith would Infact be better to atleast 70 dex then devil warrior, taking in the fact Dw can be shit to get to compared to wraith lol.[/quote]

[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="SKIEBLUE"]Ok thanks. Last question is how would I find out the mobs defense? Looking at the exp to hp values, it would seem wraith would Infact be better to atleast 70 dex then devil warrior, taking in the fact Dw can be shit to get to compared to wraith lol.[/quote] Punch a monster to death, counting the number of punches. Divide the monster's health with the number of punches you did (MonsterHP/NumberOfPunches=DamagePerHit). This'll give you the damage you do to that monster per hit. Take away that value from your stength and you have the monster's defence (not 100% accurate as you can't really account for overkill, but it is close enough). DON'T have anything on that'll effects your attack while punching (Halloween boots spring to mind) for accurate results.[/quote]

[quote="CHOJINE"]What I am interested in finding out is why mobs of similar strength give dexterity gains at different % amounts. Case in point, Devil Warrior versus Bone Golem, 12% versus 9% for myself. Bone Golem give me dexterity 25% faster % wise, but are only 2 strength higher than devil warrior. I have been told that mob HP and exp affects % per gains, but surely that would just affect how long it takes to gain the % to get the stat + and how many mobs it requires? It boggles the mind. Clarification requested. [/quote]

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[quote="IMCON"]I've been wondering this myself. All I've been able to do so far is test and find out, but it would be nice if we could figure out the details. It seems rather random at times, though it obviously can't be. I'll keep reading with interest.[/quote]

[quote="IMCON"]The % per stat is definitely the interesting part. But also, do dex gains decrease as your str goes up in that range of 30? Example: I've been hunting scale raps for a while now. According to their stats, I could keep hunting them until 64 str. And in one sense, why wouldn't I? Their defensive dex is super low and I hit them all the time. But will I continue to get the same gains during that time? Surely not.[/quote]

[quote="CHOJINE"]My theory, and it is only a theory, is that mobs within a certain range of your strength will give best strength and dexterity per %. So as you go say 10 strength above devil warriors strength as an arbitrary figure, maybe warmess become best for strength and dexterity per %. [/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="CHOJINE"]My theory, and it is only a theory, is that mobs within a certain range of your strength will give best strength and dexterity per %. So as you go say 10 strength above devil warriors strength as an arbitrary figure, maybe warmess become best for strength and dexterity per %. [/quote] This is true, the closer (or higher) you are STR wise vs the monster's STR, the less STR you get per %.[/quote]