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TRICEPTIMOUS	I was wondering what the pros and cons were for each. On esoma my understanding as that 100 white gave you 10-10 MA and 100 blk gave you 10-10MD, no idea what 100 blue did lol. However i heard today that this isnt the case, as blk mages cant do wraiths naked at 65 int, which u cud on esoma. Also, it was my understanding that blk magic was underpowered on esoma post Cont patch, as iron fist massively outweighed any blk spell. Have the wicked and devil spells been increased or are they still low attack? Finally, I am currently blk mage hunting with spirit sword, what should i be using? crystal arrow, death blow? Just seems that white is more beneficial than blk as the previous benefits of blk seem to have been taken away. PM Reply Quote [quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"]I was wondering what the pros and cons were for each. On esoma my understanding as that 100 white gave you 10-10 MA and 100 blk gave you 10-10MD, no idea what 100 blue did lol. However i heard today that this isnt the case, as blk mages cant do wraiths naked at 65 int, which u cud on esoma. Also, it was my understanding that blk magic was underpowered on esoma post Cont patch, as iron fist massively outweighed any blk spell. Have the wicked and devil spells been increased or are they still low attack? Finally, I am currently blk mage hunting with spirit sword, what should i be using? crystal arrow, death blow? Just seems that white is more beneficial than blk as the previous benefits of blk seem to have been taken away. [/quote]	#1 2013/11/20 22:54:55
ONAGA	wraiths now do blue dmg but lich lords and shadows etc still use black so you get extra MD against them. Also black magic spells now have the same power as white the only downside is explosion is range 4 where as iron fist is 5. plus u dont get cure poison :( Most people use spirit sword or light sword until at least 65 int because of how small people's mana pools are on this server, so get level 3 if u havent already PM Reply Quote [quote="ONAGA"]wraiths now do blue dmg but lich lords and shadows etc still use black so you get extra MD against them. Also black magic spells now have the same power as white the only downside is explosion is range 4 where as iron fist is 5. plus u dont get cure poison :( Most people use spirit sword or light sword until at least 65 int because of how small people's mana pools are on this server, so get level 3 if u havent already[/quote]	#2 2013/11/20 23:31:07
STOREEE	100 Blue Magic Skill = 10 Blue magic DEF AND ATT 100 White Magic Skill = 10 White magic DEF and ATT 100 Black Magic Skill = 10 Black magic DEF and ATT Don't know why to this day people still don't understand this... For example if a black mage used a black magic spell on a white mage in esoma they would do 10 more damage to that mage than they would to another black mage. Wraiths are now blue mages, they have 79 magic attack, 100 blue skill gives you 10 magic defence, reducing the int needed to take them 1 damage naked to 69 (or 68.5 as it is rounded up). Simplez. PM Reply Quote [quote="STOREEE"]100 Blue Magic Skill = 10 Blue magic DEF AND ATT 100 White Magic Skill = 10 White magic DEF and ATT 100 Black Magic Skill = 10 Black magic DEF and ATT Don't know why to this day people still don't understand this... For example if a black mage used a black magic spell on a white mage in esoma they would do 10 more damage to that mage than they would to another black mage. Wraiths are now blue mages, they have 79 magic attack, 100 blue skill gives you 10 magic defence, reducing the int needed to take them 1 damage naked to 69 (or 68.5 as it is rounded up). Simplez.[/quote]	#3 2013/11/20 23:40:07
THEMAT	"STOREEE"100 Blue Magic Skill = 10 Blue magic DEF AND ATT 100 White Magic Skill = 10 White magic DEF and ATT 100 Black Magic Skill = 10 Black magic DEF and ATT Don't know why to this day people still don't understand this... For example if a black mage used a black magic spell on a white mage in esoma they would do 10 more damage to that mage than they would to another black mage. Wraiths are now blue mages, they have 79 magic attack, 100 blue skill gives you 10 magic defence, reducing the int needed to take them 1 damage naked to 69 (or 68.5 as it is rounded up). Simplez. Well he's only just started playing on this server so he wasn't quite sure of some of the changes made. He was also asking for peoples opinions on the pros and cons of each in order to plan for the long term. "Simplez" PM Reply Quote [quote="THEMAT"][quote="STOREEE"]100 Blue Magic Skill = 10 Blue magic DEF AND ATT 100 White Magic Skill = 10 White magic DEF and ATT 100 Black Magic Skill = 10 Black magic DEF and ATT Don't know why to this day people still don't understand this... For example if a black mage used a black magic spell on a white mage in esoma they would do 10 more damage to that mage than they would to another black mage. Wraiths are now blue mages, they have 79 magic attack, 100 blue skill gives you 10 magic defence, reducing the int needed to take them 1 damage naked to 69 (or 68.5 as it is rounded up). Simplez.[/quote] Well he's only just started playing on this server so he wasn't quite sure of some of the changes made. He was also asking for peoples opinions on the pros and cons of each in order to plan for the long term. "Simplez"[/quote]	#4 2013/11/21 00:11:14
REGDAB	It isn't a change. It has been this way since the start of ESoma. Magic skill has always given MD AND MA. PM Reply Quote [quote="REGDAB"]It isn't a change. It has been this way since the start of ESoma. Magic skill has always given MD AND MA.[/quote]	#5 2013/11/21 09:11:50
THEMAT	"REGDAB"It isn't a change. It has been this way since the start of ESoma. Magic skill has always given MD AND MA. I'm talking about changes like Wraiths no longer being Black Magic. PM Reply Quote [quote="THEMAT"][quote="REGDAB"]It isn't a change. It has been this way since the start of ESoma. Magic skill has always given MD AND MA.[/quote] I'm talking about changes like Wraiths no longer being Black Magic.[/quote]	#6 2013/11/21 09:36:22
SKIEBLUE	Also explosion has been changed to higher attack to equal out iron fist, though u have to go wicked moral to learn it... White Mage pro's: cure, no need to lose moral to learn iron fist, slight less mp usage, slow. Black Mage pro's: blind, confuse, poison, better df against Lich lord and prismatic entity (though this is minor as most white mages start these at same time as black) White Mage con's: less defense against Lich lord and prism's, not sure if it's true but slower casting time from black. Black Mage con's: no cure spell, having to lose moral to learn explosion etc, slightly more mo usage then white. I'm sure there are other things but I've just woken up and can't think. Hope this helps though. PM Reply Quote [quote="SKIEBLUE"]Also explosion has been changed to higher attack to equal out iron fist, though u have to go wicked moral to learn it... White Mage pro's: cure, no need to lose moral to learn iron fist, slight less mp usage, slow. Black Mage pro's: blind, confuse, poison, better df against Lich lord and prismatic entity (though this is minor as most white mages start these at same time as black) White Mage con's: less defense against Lich lord and prism's, not sure if it's true but slower casting time from black. Black Mage con's: no cure spell, having to lose moral to learn explosion etc, slightly more mo usage then white. I'm sure there are other things but I've just woken up and can't think. Hope this helps though.[/quote]	#7 2013/11/21 10:57:19
STU	White = Way better, cure poison OP. Only thing thats black had was extra def against wraith but that got taken away because enough people/fags moaned about it. The same fags that moan about everything in order to make the game easier and defer it from its original design. Extra range on lvl 3 SS is all I can think of that helps a black mage. At least explosion was made the same as IF, but still costs more mana I think. PM Reply Quote [quote="STU"]White = Way better, cure poison OP. Only thing thats black had was extra def against wraith but that got taken away because enough people/fags moaned about it. The same fags that moan about everything in order to make the game easier and defer it from its original design. Extra range on lvl 3 SS is all I can think of that helps a black mage. At least explosion was made the same as IF, but still costs more mana I think.[/quote]	#8 2013/11/21 14:48:27
TRICEPTIMOUS	What if cure poison was removed or requirements raised to like Angel morale and 90 int? PM Reply Quote [quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"]What if cure poison was removed or requirements raised to like Angel morale and 90 int? [/quote]	#9 2013/11/21 15:54:23
YOSHIMITSU	Cure lvl 1/2 should remove 1 status Cure lvl 3 should remove 2 status Cure lvl 4 should remove all That together with the cast time needs to be changed as at the minute it's way too easy for a white mage to cancel out any black mages spells really PM Reply Quote [quote="YOSHIMITSU"]Cure lvl 1/2 should remove 1 status Cure lvl 3 should remove 2 status Cure lvl 4 should remove all That together with the cast time needs to be changed as at the minute it's way too easy for a white mage to cancel out any black mages spells really[/quote]	#10 2013/11/21 16:12:05
AST	"STU"White = Way better, cure poison OP. Only thing thats black had was extra def against wraith but that got taken away because enough people/fags moaned about it. The same fags that moan about everything in order to make the game easier and defer it from its original design. Extra range on lvl 3 SS is all I can think of that helps a black mage. At least explosion was made the same as IF, but still costs more mana I think. Black magic got massive buff first, blacks getting their atk buffed meant whites should get something equally important to them. It was the black "fags" moaning that changed the original design. PM Reply Quote [quote="AST"][quote="STU"]White = Way better, cure poison OP. Only thing thats black had was extra def against wraith but that got taken away because enough people/fags moaned about it. The same fags that moan about everything in order to make the game easier and defer it from its original design. Extra range on lvl 3 SS is all I can think of that helps a black mage. At least explosion was made the same as IF, but still costs more mana I think.[/quote] Black magic got massive buff first, blacks getting their atk buffed meant whites should get something equally important to them. It was the black "fags" moaning that changed the original design.[/quote]	#11 2013/11/22 21:52:46
ZAO	White is still the better magic to learn at a later level, cure is OP. I'm black mage, only cos I prefer hunting with explosion and was able to take Prism slightly earlier than a white Mage comfortably. PM Reply Quote [quote="ZAO"]White is still the better magic to learn at a later level, cure is OP. I'm black mage, only cos I prefer hunting with explosion and was able to take Prism slightly earlier than a white Mage comfortably.[/quote]	#12 2013/11/23 13:22:00
NED	IMO a white mage would always beat a black mage without serums - cure and slow makes it ridiculous for a black mage to even compete. Would be alot better if they introduced a cure for blue, black and white; blue cures blue, black cures black and white cures white. Just give white mages a new "assist" spell, maybe an exhaustion spell which reduces a characters run speed or something or some other idea and balance is restored. PM Reply Quote [quote="NED"]IMO a white mage would always beat a black mage without serums - cure and slow makes it ridiculous for a black mage to even compete. Would be alot better if they introduced a cure for blue, black and white; blue cures blue, black cures black and white cures white. Just give white mages a new "assist" spell, maybe an exhaustion spell which reduces a characters run speed or something or some other idea and balance is restored. [/quote]	#13 2013/11/24 23:41:58
LURIFAX	Consider how many white and how many black mages are ingame, and you can figure out witch is best. Shouldent be to hard. PM Reply Quote [quote="LURIFAX"]Consider how many white and how many black mages are ingame, and you can figure out witch is best. Shouldent be to hard.[/quote]	#14 2013/11/25 07:19:31

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