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"FUJITORA"Scoin really? They have no option open to them than breaking the rules by slowing ppl on nubs? Due to zyzz's previous actions. Im not saying its right, just I understand their mentality.
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[quote="SCOIN"][quote="FUJITORA"]Scoin really? They have no option open to them than breaking the rules by slowing ppl on nubs?
They have the two most most played chars on the sever (Easily 400-500 hours ahead of eveyrone else by now) And they have moved onto multi'ing new chars, They can easily pk anyone they want with these chars.
Can you not read or understand what the Chinese guy has said himself?
[quote="CEO_008"]Who take the initiative to kill me, my revenge plan is the whole gang, in my eyes to kill you don't make any sense, I just like to let you can not practice,
Do not leveling mean nothing to me
ha ha [/quote]
He doesnt want to kill you, he just wants to prevent you from hunting. By breaking the rules.[/quote]
Due to zyzz's previous actions.
Im not saying its right, just I understand their mentality.
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#61 2013/11/21 16:55:01 |
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"SCOIN"Im not saying its right, Just said it yourself. I want to hit some people i know in real life in the face with a sledgehammer. They might deserve it but...guess what? Its not right.. So i dont do it. |
#62 2013/11/21 16:56:17 |
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"SCOIN""FUJITORA"Scoin really? They have no option open to them than breaking the rules by slowing ppl on nubs? They have the two most most played chars on the sever (Easily 400-500 hours ahead of eveyrone else by now) And they have moved onto multi'ing new chars, They can easily pk anyone they want with these chars. Can you not read or understand what the Chinese guy has said himself?Due to zyzz's previous actions. Im not saying its right, just I understand their mentality."CEO_008"Who take the initiative to kill me, my revenge plan is the whole gang, in my eyes to kill you don't make any sense, I just like to let you can not practice, Do not leveling mean nothing to me ha haHe doesnt want to kill you, he just wants to prevent you from hunting. By breaking the rules. I think you kind of know what you're on about and then I think you really don't see the point. If he was just tagging the mobs when there was an overcrowded spawn if ZYZZ had 4+ on him.. thats fine. But the fact they made the point of ignoring every free mob, follow and hit the ones that he is tanking is the problem. They are going out their own way to annoy other players and make their hunting experience terrible. Now if you say that's okay and you can still see where they come from. There is a yellow bottle under the sink for you.
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[quote="DEMIZE"][quote="SCOIN"][quote="FUJITORA"]Scoin really? They have no option open to them than breaking the rules by slowing ppl on nubs? They have the two most most played chars on the sever (Easily 400-500 hours ahead of eveyrone else by now) And they have moved onto multi'ing new chars, They can easily pk anyone they want with these chars. Can you not read or understand what the Chinese guy has said himself? [quote="CEO_008"]Who take the initiative to kill me, my revenge plan is the whole gang, in my eyes to kill you don't make any sense, I just like to let you can not practice, Do not leveling mean nothing to me ha ha [/quote] He doesnt want to kill you, he just wants to prevent you from hunting. By breaking the rules.[/quote] Due to zyzz's previous actions. Im not saying its right, just I understand their mentality. [/quote]
I think you kind of know what you're on about and then I think you really don't see the point.
If he was just tagging the mobs when there was an overcrowded spawn if ZYZZ had 4+ on him.. thats fine.
But the fact they made the point of ignoring every free mob, follow and hit the ones that he is tanking is the problem.
They are going out their own way to annoy other players and make their hunting experience terrible.
Now if you say that's okay and you can still see where they come from.
There is a yellow bottle under the sink for you.[/quote]
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#63 2013/11/21 17:07:42 |
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"CEO_008"Chinese game than you imagine so fragile, don't want to be away from Chinese harassment, don't feel very powerful is active to PK chinese. You this is not enough time for Chinese play, GUMP had killed me 20 times I never scold him, he is now I harass just 2 night stand, you really fragile you kill my time thought about today? I am helpless can only send a word, that is waste is really a waste "CEO_008"Who take the initiative to kill me, my revenge plan is the whole gang, in my eyes to kill you don't make any sense, I just like to let you can not practice, I don't play human side, and devil side has it's own issues with lack of communication and childish behavior. I've seen plenty of dust-ups in game based off two words: FU and chinkz. It's sad really when all these people are only brought together by the sick love of this game. Sure pk is part of the game but senseless / pointless pk ruins peoples game, makes them feel powerless to enjoy the game, and makes them look for anyway to restore that. I see what this person is saying; you ruin my game and I'll play a style I enjoy that ruins yours. I think this is a diabolical and effective way to get that back. PK for the sake of PK is harassment even just once. Retaliation by means discussed in this thread, also harassment. I remember Basil used to say it was role play and he was a criminal. If it's Role Play does anything go?
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[quote="I0_0I"][quote="CEO_008"]Chinese game than you imagine so fragile, don't want to be away from Chinese harassment, don't feel very powerful is active to PK chinese. You this is not enough time for Chinese play, GUMP had killed me 20 times I never scold him, he is now I harass just 2 night stand, you really fragile you kill my time thought about today? I am helpless can only send a word, that is waste is really a waste
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[quote="CEO_008"]Who take the initiative to kill me, my revenge plan is the whole gang, in my eyes to kill you don't make any sense, I just like to let you can not practice,
Do not leveling mean nothing to me
ha ha
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I don't play human side, and devil side has it's own issues with lack of communication and childish behavior.
I've seen plenty of dust-ups in game based off two words: FU and chinkz.
It's sad really when all these people are only brought together by the sick love of this game. Sure pk is part of the game but senseless / pointless pk ruins peoples game, makes them feel powerless to enjoy the game, and makes them look for anyway to restore that.
I see what this person is saying; you ruin my game and I'll play a style I enjoy that ruins yours. I think this is a diabolical and effective way to get that back.
PK for the sake of PK is harassment even just once.
Retaliation by means discussed in this thread, also harassment.
I remember Basil used to say it was role play and he was a criminal.
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#64 2013/11/21 17:16:32 |
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"DEMIZE""SCOIN""FUJITORA"Scoin really? They have no option open to them than breaking the rules by slowing ppl on nubs? They have the two most most played chars on the sever (Easily 400-500 hours ahead of eveyrone else by now) And they have moved onto multi'ing new chars, They can easily pk anyone they want with these chars. Can you not read or understand what the Chinese guy has said himself?Due to zyzz's previous actions. Im not saying its right, just I understand their mentality."CEO_008"Who take the initiative to kill me, my revenge plan is the whole gang, in my eyes to kill you don't make any sense, I just like to let you can not practice, Do not leveling mean nothing to me ha haHe doesnt want to kill you, he just wants to prevent you from hunting. By breaking the rules. Ive experienced zyzz not just pking for no reason but pking to get me to leave a spawn so he and his guild could have it to them selves. He attacked me for no reason saying "fo this spawn is ours" this was at pris a while ago, in retaliation, because I knew I wouldn't be able to kill him I went back to the spawn to slow and weaken him, which I did for a while and died a few times for doing it. Fuj, you say they have ppl who are high enough stats to pk back, but like in my case, why would I involve someone else in something and why should they help me? The only option left open to me was to go and waist his time the way he had wasted mine. The difference is that I was doing what I did in retaliation for something he did unjust to me. This is why I understand why the Chinese do what they do. the hypocrisy here is that zyzz pking me to clear me from the spawn is seen as legit while me slowing him in retaliation is seen as breaking the rules. When zyzz says he was hunting at wraith minding his own business when ppl hit his mobs is hard to believe when I have seen how he treats chars that are much lower level than him with what he did to me. Also the same night I witnessed him telling tails on people when isylver appeared at pris. he suddenly stopped being a cock head and started saying to isylver how malefic and a few other where quick logging etc. etc. I stand by the fact that all this shit is down to him and his attitude to others, he even hunted nice a pie next to me one night chatting ect, that was the night I found out who plays the char and was told hes ok when this person is playing, which lead me to believe maybe he had a multi who was the dick head, then the other week im assured he doesn't multi which leaves me with the opinion if he doesn't multi then hes a two faced fucka, when I suggested this to his guild mate the reply was "yes he is".... The Chinese doing what they have been doing isn't right but blaming them for it is also not right, the guy to blame for the situation gets off scott free laughing at everyone while he tells more tails and stirs more shit.
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[quote="SCOIN"][quote="DEMIZE"][quote="SCOIN"][quote="FUJITORA"]Scoin really? They have no option open to them than breaking the rules by slowing ppl on nubs? They have the two most most played chars on the sever (Easily 400-500 hours ahead of eveyrone else by now) And they have moved onto multi'ing new chars, They can easily pk anyone they want with these chars. Can you not read or understand what the Chinese guy has said himself? [quote="CEO_008"]Who take the initiative to kill me, my revenge plan is the whole gang, in my eyes to kill you don't make any sense, I just like to let you can not practice, Do not leveling mean nothing to me ha ha [/quote] He doesnt want to kill you, he just wants to prevent you from hunting. By breaking the rules.[/quote] Due to zyzz's previous actions. Im not saying its right, just I understand their mentality. [/quote]
I think you kind of know what you're on about and then I think you really don't see the point.
If he was just tagging the mobs when there was an overcrowded spawn if ZYZZ had 4+ on him.. thats fine.
But the fact they made the point of ignoring every free mob, follow and hit the ones that he is tanking is the problem.
They are going out their own way to annoy other players and make their hunting experience terrible.
Now if you say that's okay and you can still see where they come from.
There is a yellow bottle under the sink for you.[/quote]
Ive experienced zyzz not just pking for no reason but pking to get me to leave a spawn so he and his guild could have it to them selves. He attacked me for no reason saying "fo this spawn is ours"
this was at pris a while ago, in retaliation, because I knew I wouldn't be able to kill him I went back to the spawn to slow and weaken him, which I did for a while and died a few times for doing it.
Fuj, you say they have ppl who are high enough stats to pk back, but like in my case, why would I involve someone else in something and why should they help me? The only option left open to me was to go and waist his time the way he had wasted mine. The difference is that I was doing what I did in retaliation for something he did unjust to me. This is why I understand why the Chinese do what they do.
the hypocrisy here is that zyzz pking me to clear me from the spawn is seen as legit while me slowing him in retaliation is seen as breaking the rules.
When zyzz says he was hunting at wraith minding his own business when ppl hit his mobs is hard to believe when I have seen how he treats chars that are much lower level than him with what he did to me.
Also the same night I witnessed him telling tails on people when isylver appeared at pris. he suddenly stopped being a cock head and started saying to isylver how malefic and a few other where quick logging etc. etc.
I stand by the fact that all this shit is down to him and his attitude to others, he even hunted nice a pie next to me one night chatting ect, that was the night I found out who plays the char and was told hes ok when this person is playing, which lead me to believe maybe he had a multi who was the dick head, then the other week im assured he doesn't multi which leaves me with the opinion if he doesn't multi then hes a two faced fucka, when I suggested this to his guild mate the reply was "yes he is"....
The Chinese doing what they have been doing isn't right but blaming them for it is also not right, the guy to blame for the situation gets off scott free laughing at everyone while he tells more tails and stirs more shit.
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#65 2013/11/21 17:50:16 |
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I haven't played in quite some time, not persistently anyway - I'm going back to when Leo, XKF and Style etc. were all at raps.
I can honestly say when they were there it was frustratingly annoying to hunt. I can understand if its busy and someone is surrounded it's fine to take some mobs on, but these guys would literally attack your single target in a spawn full of raps. I can relate to what people are saying in this regard. I'm not sure if they had been playing enough at this point to have made so many enemies that they would feel they should be behaving in such a way? The way I see it atm, is they've been like this since the server started, I'm not sure of the reason since this is the first server I've played since esoma nor have I played this server since start of semester, I'm not up to date on things going on in the community. When the holidays come back around again and I have time to play some more I'm kind of relieved to think these guys would have moved on to better mobs tbh. Granted there's no more of them doing the same thing!
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[quote="PINKY"]I haven't played in quite some time, not persistently anyway - I'm going back to when Leo, XKF and Style etc. were all at raps.
I can honestly say when they were there it was frustratingly annoying to hunt. I can understand if its busy and someone is surrounded it's fine to take some mobs on, but these guys would literally attack your single target in a spawn full of raps. I can relate to what people are saying in this regard. I'm not sure if they had been playing enough at this point to have made so many enemies that they would feel they should be behaving in such a way?
The way I see it atm, is they've been like this since the server started, I'm not sure of the reason since this is the first server I've played since esoma nor have I played this server since start of semester, I'm not up to date on things going on in the community.
When the holidays come back around again and I have time to play some more I'm kind of relieved to think these guys would have moved on to better mobs tbh. Granted there's no more of them doing the same thing![/quote]
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#66 2013/11/21 17:53:45 |
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The chinese were never banned for slowing me.
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#67 2013/11/21 18:02:55 |
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ScoinThe only option left open to me was to go and waist his time the way he had wasted mine. If someone higher than you pks you there is not much you can do, move spawn.. problem solved. Theyre not allowed to follow you. "SCOIN"the hypocrisy here is that zyzz pking me to clear me from the spawn is seen as legit while me slowing him in retaliation is seen as breaking the rules. Its one thing to slow him on your char, thats fine and he can retaliate to that. Its a different thing to be logged into a char nobody cares about its stats or dying multiple times, and grief slowing over a period of several hours and multiple days. Where killing this character yields no use or loss of moral. And again ScoinThe Chinese doing what they have been doing isn't right Enough said.
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[quote="FUJITORA"][quote=Scoin]The only option left open to me was to go and waist his time the way he had wasted mine.[/quote]
If someone higher than you pks you there is not much you can do, move spawn.. problem solved. Theyre not allowed to follow you.
[quote="SCOIN"]the hypocrisy here is that zyzz pking me to clear me from the spawn is seen as legit while me slowing him in retaliation is seen as breaking the rules.[/quote]
Its one thing to slow him on your char, thats fine and he can retaliate to that.
Its a different thing to be logged into a char nobody cares about its stats or dying multiple times, and grief slowing over a period of several hours and multiple days. Where killing this character yields no use or loss of moral.
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[quote=Scoin]The Chinese doing what they have been doing isn't right [/quote]
Enough said. [/quote]
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#68 2013/11/21 18:12:24 |
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"FUJITORA"ScoinThe only option left open to me was to go and waist his time the way he had wasted mine. zyzz's still a knob head though, im sure you can agree on that ;p
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[quote="SCOIN"][quote="FUJITORA"][quote=Scoin]The only option left open to me was to go and waist his time the way he had wasted mine.[/quote]
If someone higher than you pks you there is not much you can do, move spawn.. problem solved. Theyre not allowed to follow you.
[quote="SCOIN"]the hypocrisy here is that zyzz pking me to clear me from the spawn is seen as legit while me slowing him in retaliation is seen as breaking the rules.[/quote]
Its one thing to slow him on your char, thats fine and he can retaliate to that.
Its a different thing to be logged into a char nobody cares about its stats or dying multiple times, and grief slowing over a period of several hours and multiple days. Where killing this character yields no use or loss of moral.
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[quote=Scoin]The Chinese doing what they have been doing isn't right [/quote]
Enough said. [/quote]
zyzz's still a knob head though, im sure you can agree on that ;p
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#69 2013/11/21 18:33:51 |
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So in the end you gave up your point because you knew you were wrong.
You turned a somewhat potentially useful thread / discussion into your personal vendetta against Zyzz. Next time someone makes a similar thread just write "I think zyzz is a knob head" so everyone can just ignore your failure of an argument / invalid points, and people can discuss what needs to be discussed.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]So in the end you gave up your point because you knew you were wrong.
You turned a somewhat potentially useful thread / discussion into your personal vendetta against Zyzz.
Next time someone makes a similar thread just write "I think zyzz is a knob head" so everyone can just ignore your failure of an argument / invalid points, and people can discuss what needs to be discussed.[/quote]
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#70 2013/11/21 18:40:00 |
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Scoin you seem to let your distain for Zyzz cloud your judgement and you refuse to acknowledge the distinction between PKing and Harassment.
In your mind they were justified in their harassment like you were in your retaliation to Zyzz PKing you from Prisms. I agree that your retaliation was justified and that it wasn't harassment because you care about your character, you took risk in going grey and took the consequences for dying. ie loss of money/stats/possible valuable items. The consequences aren't the same for a low level 'throw away' character and thus no risk to going grey. imo your argument insults Isylver's intelligence as he saw the same distinction you refuse to see and took the appropriate action.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Scoin you seem to let your distain for Zyzz cloud your judgement and you refuse to acknowledge the distinction between PKing and Harassment.
In your mind they were justified in their harassment like you were in your retaliation to Zyzz PKing you from Prisms.
I agree that your retaliation was justified and that it wasn't harassment because you care about your character, you took risk in going grey and took the consequences for dying. ie loss of money/stats/possible valuable items.
The consequences aren't the same for a low level 'throw away' character and thus no risk to going grey.
imo your argument insults Isylver's intelligence as he saw the same distinction you refuse to see and took the appropriate action.[/quote]
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#71 2013/11/21 18:50:34 |
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nar I wasn't arguing, just putting a few points as to how we got in this situation.
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"PLUM"I am getting pretty agitated by all these claims that all Chinese players are so kind and generous, that the only reason they are acting like children is because of retaliation for x or y. The reason they don't pk you is because you are not a high level character or you are sending them flowers in the post. These players are threatened by high level rivals and I go through around 2 hours of harassment every single day because despite their hundreds of users they'd still rather I couldn't level. If they want to come and try to PK me, that is fine. The problem for them is that they aren't very good at it and often end up dead. They resort to other tactics, tactics that are outlined in the rules as harassment. 你忘记最早在坑里是谁给我下束缚的？你可以对我这样做就不允许别人这样对你？可笑
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[quote="LEO"][quote="PLUM"]I am getting pretty agitated by all these claims that all Chinese players are so kind and generous, that the only reason they are acting like children is because of retaliation for x or y. The reason they don't pk you is because you are not a high level character or you are sending them flowers in the post. These players are threatened by high level rivals and I go through around 2 hours of harassment every single day because despite their hundreds of users they'd still rather I couldn't level. If they want to come and try to PK me, that is fine. The problem for them is that they aren't very good at it and often end up dead. They resort to other tactics, tactics that are outlined in the rules as harassment.
It is all very well and good that they aren't doing it to everyone. That doesn't mean that our arguments are invalid and that they should be allowed to carry on acting like this though.[/quote]
你忘记最早在坑里是谁给我下束缚的？你可以对我这样做就不允许别人这样对你？可笑
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