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"OPENTHEDOOR"I don't know why you don't just throw it for a few weeks if it's that much of an issue?


Surely the entire point of this % change to the GVW was so everyone has a chance to enjoy a fight?

All it looks like it's done is show which side is completely disorganised (since there's no excuse for losing vs a 65%/70% team - at least on DSOMA since almost all attendees are level 100).

The % will go so low that the defender will not even be able to participate, organised or not.

It makes it look like the % idea is purely so the GVW holder will lose no matter how much they try, and the whole event will be abandoned until their % is somewhat viable.

The problem almost goes full circle;

1. GVW is deemed to be boring because the average joe can't get a group together to move the Defender.
2. Defender's % is so low they have no chance anymore and lose the GVW.
3. Defender's % takes too long to increase (5% per loss after the 1st defeat)
4. Ex-GVW holder who is on low % doesn't attend GVW for the next couple of weeks (months?) until their characters are somewhere near what their stats should be.
5. the new GVW winners have nobody to fight because their opponents are basically level 50 stats. - GVW is boring once again.
6. In the meantime a group of those said people potentially leave the game because GVW was the only enjoyment keeping them tethered.

Correct me if this is not the current scenario ;o
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]I don't know why you don't just throw it for a few weeks if it's that much of an issue?[/quote] Surely the entire point of this % change to the GVW was so everyone has a chance to enjoy a fight? All it looks like it's done is show which side is completely disorganised (since there's no excuse for losing vs a 65%/70% team - at least on DSOMA since almost all attendees are level 100). The % will go so low that the defender will not even be able to participate, organised or not. It makes it look like the % idea is purely so the GVW holder will lose no matter how much they try, and the whole event will be abandoned until their % is somewhat viable. The problem almost goes full circle; 1. GVW is deemed to be boring because the average joe can't get a group together to move the Defender. 2. Defender's % is so low they have no chance anymore and lose the GVW. 3. Defender's % takes too long to increase (5% per loss after the 1st defeat) 4. Ex-GVW holder who is on low % doesn't attend GVW for the next couple of weeks (months?) until their characters are somewhere near what their stats should be. 5. the new GVW winners have nobody to fight because their opponents are basically level 50 stats. - GVW is boring once again. 6. In the meantime a group of those said people potentially leave the game because GVW was the only enjoyment keeping them tethered. Correct me if this is not the current scenario ;o[/quote]
duno bout d-soma..but dominance/ dl gona swap wins each week..so none of them lose too much % ..
half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest..
So.. basically.. dominance gona help dl...and vice versa..they same ppl really..swap wins .... and 1 guild dominance continues.
lol..well at least a few faint .. me and a heaven guy turned up...
Dont see many turinin up next time tbh ..
Shame arcanix ( other biggish guild) cant make the effort tbh.... but.. oh well

( 2 guilds ..share wins... so not lose too much% ..help each other.. not brain surgery to work out that strategy )
oh my
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]duno bout d-soma..but dominance/ dl gona swap wins each week..so none of them lose too much % .. half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest.. So.. basically.. dominance gona help dl...and vice versa..they same ppl really..swap wins .... and 1 guild dominance continues. lol..well at least a few faint .. me and a heaven guy turned up... Dont see many turinin up next time tbh .. Shame arcanix ( other biggish guild) cant make the effort tbh.... but.. oh well ( 2 guilds ..share wins... so not lose too much% ..help each other.. not brain surgery to work out that strategy ) oh my[/quote]
Was unable to attend but we've been told alts are fine providing you don't guild hop meaning if anyone from darklegacy leaves to join dominance to use trace and get around the % nerf then leaves dominance to join back to darklegacy to use trace this hasn't happened.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Was unable to attend but we've been told alts are fine providing you don't guild hop meaning if anyone from darklegacy leaves to join dominance to use trace and get around the % nerf then leaves dominance to join back to darklegacy to use trace this hasn't happened.[/quote]
"LUPISCUS"duno bout d-soma..but dominance/ dl gona swap wins each week..so none of them lose too much % ..
half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest..
So.. basically.. dominance gona help dl...and vice versa..they same ppl really..swap wins .... and 1 guild dominance continues.
lol..well at least a few faint .. me and a heaven guy turned up...
Dont see many turinin up next time tbh ..
Shame arcanix ( other biggish guild) cant make the effort tbh.... but.. oh well

( 2 guilds ..share wins... so not lose too much% ..help each other.. not brain surgery to work out that strategy )
oh my


Come on lupi stop being a plonker! it's obvious that's going to happen however with a cap at 85% they would never swap also don't judge a GVW based on the one New years eve lol.
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[quote="OLDMAN"][quote="LUPISCUS"]duno bout d-soma..but dominance/ dl gona swap wins each week..so none of them lose too much % .. half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest.. So.. basically.. dominance gona help dl...and vice versa..they same ppl really..swap wins .... and 1 guild dominance continues. lol..well at least a few faint .. me and a heaven guy turned up... Dont see many turinin up next time tbh .. Shame arcanix ( other biggish guild) cant make the effort tbh.... but.. oh well ( 2 guilds ..share wins... so not lose too much% ..help each other.. not brain surgery to work out that strategy ) oh my[/quote] Come on lupi stop being a plonker! it's obvious that's going to happen however with a cap at 85% they would never swap also don't judge a GVW based on the one New years eve lol.[/quote]
''cowards and bullies taken over the assylum'' is the state of the game atm

sad but true.. oh and ''intercontinental items'' too
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]''cowards and bullies taken over the assylum'' is the state of the game atm sad but true.. oh and ''intercontinental items'' too[/quote]
"LUPISCUS"
half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest..
l


Im at work so wasnt there. If this is the case not one then no one can moan that the % should go lower when only 6 turn up to challenge a guild on 60%......
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[quote="UPPED"][quote="LUPISCUS"] half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest.. l[/quote] Im at work so wasnt there. If this is the case not one then no one can moan that the % should go lower when only 6 turn up to challenge a guild on 60%......[/quote]
Of course it's a decent constructive thread until the usual suspect shows up with the usual accusations, shocker. Just seen Matty recorded I'll give it a watch at some point, hopefully I'll be able to make the next one. Do hope the percentage drop/increase gets looked at or capped in future I think it would be a benefit.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Of course it's a decent constructive thread until the usual suspect shows up with the usual accusations, shocker. Just seen Matty recorded I'll give it a watch at some point, hopefully I'll be able to make the next one. Do hope the percentage drop/increase gets looked at or capped in future I think it would be a benefit.[/quote]
usual suspect? sorry to comment .. i do have the right for an opinion tho

u may not think so...but really.. i do
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]usual suspect? sorry to comment .. i do have the right for an opinion tho u may not think so...but really.. i do [/quote]
"UPPED"
"LUPISCUS"
half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest..
l


Im at work so wasnt there. If this is the case not one then no one can moan that the % should go lower when only 6 turn up to challenge a guild on 60%......


6 didnt turn up to challenge a guild on 60% ...they turned up to find another guild of 15-20 helping the guild on 60% ..its quite a different thing. But good try for trying to defend it
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="UPPED"][quote="LUPISCUS"] half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest.. l[/quote] Im at work so wasnt there. If this is the case not one then no one can moan that the % should go lower when only 6 turn up to challenge a guild on 60%......[/quote] 6 didnt turn up to challenge a guild on 60% ...they turned up to find another guild of 15-20 helping the guild on 60% ..its quite a different thing. But good try for trying to defend it[/quote]
"ISYLVER"You can do what you want with your alts (providing they're not guild hopping etc).


Direct quote from a previous thread, I'll just leave that here.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="ISYLVER"]You can do what you want with your alts (providing they're not guild hopping etc).[/quote] Direct quote from a previous thread, I'll just leave that here.[/quote]
"LUPISCUS"
"UPPED"
"LUPISCUS"
half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest..
l


Im at work so wasnt there. If this is the case not one then no one can moan that the % should go lower when only 6 turn up to challenge a guild on 60%......


6 didnt turn up to challenge a guild on 60% ...they turned up to find another guild of 15-20 helping the guild on 60% ..its quite a different thing. But good try for trying to defend it


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[quote="WALTJR"][quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="UPPED"][quote="LUPISCUS"] half a dozen ppl outside of dl/dominance turned up....but 5-6 vs 20 + aint much contest.. l[/quote] Im at work so wasnt there. If this is the case not one then no one can moan that the % should go lower when only 6 turn up to challenge a guild on 60%......[/quote] 6 didnt turn up to challenge a guild on 60% ...they turned up to find another guild of 15-20 helping the guild on 60% ..its quite a different thing. But good try for trying to defend it[/quote] [img]http://lh5.ggpht.com/R5vBXck17uwf3H3T5Ywl1JKK742sxg4dvdSBjC9y4VageHvq95whz6IiVdRwJ-V5_LggqRZnYDo8kr5HAlv3x6E=s0[/img][/quote]
I like this thread. Please continue to keep it clean. :)
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]I like this thread. Please continue to keep it clean. :)[/quote]
"PATHOLOGIST"
"OPENTHEDOOR"I don't know why you don't just throw it for a few weeks if it's that much of an issue?


Surely the entire point of this % change to the GVW was so everyone has a chance to enjoy a fight?

All it looks like it's done is show which side is completely disorganised (since there's no excuse for losing vs a 65%/70% team - at least on DSOMA since almost all attendees are level 100).

The % will go so low that the defender will not even be able to participate, organised or not.

It makes it look like the % idea is purely so the GVW holder will lose no matter how much they try, and the whole event will be abandoned until their % is somewhat viable.

The problem almost goes full circle;

1. GVW is deemed to be boring because the average joe can't get a group together to move the Defender.
2. Defender's % is so low they have no chance anymore and lose the GVW.
3. Defender's % takes too long to increase (5% per loss after the 1st defeat)
4. Ex-GVW holder who is on low % doesn't attend GVW for the next couple of weeks (months?) until their characters are somewhere near what their stats should be.
5. the new GVW winners have nobody to fight because their opponents are basically level 50 stats. - GVW is boring once again.
6. In the meantime a group of those said people potentially leave the game because GVW was the only enjoyment keeping them tethered.

Correct me if this is not the current scenario ;o


Can't sum it up better than this.
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[quote="OLDMAN"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]I don't know why you don't just throw it for a few weeks if it's that much of an issue?[/quote] Surely the entire point of this % change to the GVW was so everyone has a chance to enjoy a fight? All it looks like it's done is show which side is completely disorganised (since there's no excuse for losing vs a 65%/70% team - at least on DSOMA since almost all attendees are level 100). The % will go so low that the defender will not even be able to participate, organised or not. It makes it look like the % idea is purely so the GVW holder will lose no matter how much they try, and the whole event will be abandoned until their % is somewhat viable. The problem almost goes full circle; 1. GVW is deemed to be boring because the average joe can't get a group together to move the Defender. 2. Defender's % is so low they have no chance anymore and lose the GVW. 3. Defender's % takes too long to increase (5% per loss after the 1st defeat) 4. Ex-GVW holder who is on low % doesn't attend GVW for the next couple of weeks (months?) until their characters are somewhere near what their stats should be. 5. the new GVW winners have nobody to fight because their opponents are basically level 50 stats. - GVW is boring once again. 6. In the meantime a group of those said people potentially leave the game because GVW was the only enjoyment keeping them tethered. Correct me if this is not the current scenario ;o[/quote] Can't sum it up better than this.[/quote]
Sorry this comment was for "New Years Eve GVW" not here.
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[quote="CCHRONE"]Sorry this comment was for "New Years Eve GVW" not here.[/quote]

 

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