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PIKUTIN |
Would be cool to see some benefits to pking. Now that moral gains are slow there should be a real benefit added - if you' sell your soul to the devil' and go full pker there should be some reason to do it
If you gained something like pos from pking, and pos became useful this would make things interesting..
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[quote="PIKUTIN"]Would be cool to see some benefits to pking. Now that moral gains are slow there should be a real benefit added - if you' sell your soul to the devil' and go full pker there should be some reason to do it
If you gained something like pos from pking, and pos became useful this would make things interesting..[/quote]
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#46 2017/01/15 17:32:14 |
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PIKUTIN |
Also with a system like pos for pking it would be far easier to control grieffing etc.. for example if youre grieffing someone 5 times you start to lose pos rather than gain it
Also could create a kind of wanted list thing people have brought up a few times by linking it to KD so to kill someone who's KD is 10.0 you'd get more pos than killing someone with KD of 0.5 (obv only works really with current pk level restrictions)
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[quote="PIKUTIN"]Also with a system like pos for pking it would be far easier to control grieffing etc.. for example if youre grieffing someone 5 times you start to lose pos rather than gain it
Also could create a kind of wanted list thing people have brought up a few times by linking it to KD so to kill someone who's KD is 10.0 you'd get more pos than killing someone with KD of 0.5 (obv only works really with current pk level restrictions)[/quote]
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#47 2017/01/15 17:40:32 |
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PIKUTIN |
And lastly if this pos sytem worked and was useful, put it on the gvw stone to get people going from the start ;p
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#48 2017/01/15 17:42:36 |
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LUPISCUS |
Some kind of reward for pking..pointwise is proly good idea.. Still imo.. ud get more ppl engaged in pk/ fighting etc if the risk of dropping items was removed. Higher levs with a +2-3-4 bow/armour piece or 2 are shit scared of losing stuff.
End the dropping of items and pvp might become more of a fun thing rather than '' fuk that i might lose sumthin.. im tp'ing''
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]Some kind of reward for pking..pointwise is proly good idea.. Still imo.. ud get more ppl engaged in pk/ fighting etc if the risk of dropping items was removed. Higher levs with a +2-3-4 bow/armour piece or 2 are shit scared of losing stuff.
End the dropping of items and pvp might become more of a fun thing rather than '' fuk that i might lose sumthin.. im tp'ing''[/quote]
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#49 2017/01/15 17:47:15 |
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MANTICORE |
u already cant loose items from getting pked unless u dont carry ressies and u revive untill 10% penalty which is ur fault and u get what u deserved
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#50 2017/01/15 23:09:04 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
"MANTICORE"u already cant loose items from getting pked unless u dont carry ressies and u revive untill 10% penalty which is ur fault and u get what u deserved Lemme ask you something. Say you're in a PK fight, then your internet cuts out. Your character stays in game. You get killed. You drop your +5 epic bow. How would you feel? Would you quit? Was it your fault? Did you deserve it? I honestly don't see the point in dropping items on PvP death, cause the only time anyone will realistically drop something is when it's out of their control. I think stuff dropped in conti (to opposing race) is fair game, though. Shouldn't be taking your valuables to conti when devils/humans will raid.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="MANTICORE"]u already cant loose items from getting pked unless u dont carry ressies and u revive untill 10% penalty which is ur fault and u get what u deserved [/quote]
Lemme ask you something.
Say you're in a PK fight, then your internet cuts out. Your character stays in game. You get killed. You drop your +5 epic bow.
How would you feel? Would you quit? Was it your fault? Did you deserve it?
I honestly don't see the point in dropping items on PvP death, cause the only time anyone will realistically drop something is when it's out of their control.
I think stuff dropped in conti (to opposing race) is fair game, though. Shouldn't be taking your valuables to conti when devils/humans will raid.[/quote]
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#51 2017/01/16 00:08:51 |
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MANTICORE |
well if u put it that way ill pray my friends pick it i have droped shit like that generally in soma thats 1 of the things u cant avoid and i usually when i see spikes or high ping i logg out before anything bad happens.
Lets be honest if u are on penalty and keep pressing revive and drop ur precious wep its ur fault. and as far as rvr i got a very good hard ring of fighter humans dont drop shit in conti
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[quote="MANTICORE"]well if u put it that way ill pray my friends pick it i have droped shit like that generally in soma thats 1 of the things u cant avoid and i usually when i see spikes or high ping i logg out before anything bad happens.
Lets be honest if u are on penalty and keep pressing revive and drop ur precious wep its ur fault.
and as far as rvr i got a very good hard ring of fighter humans dont drop shit in conti [/quote]
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#52 2017/01/16 01:08:07 |
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ENIMEEZE |
"MANTICORE" SS or didn't happen |
#53 2017/01/16 05:33:25 |
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JAHEIRA |
Items shouldn't drop RvR or PVP
Just makes ppl quit if they lose somthing of value, and I think it's silly you want a map that's ment to be a benafit to owning and then force ppl to go in shit gear or risk losing it. It's already a open pvp map with no risk for the humans as they have hero armor. Bring in other penaltys other than item drops, if upgrades and top items was easyer to get then fair enough, but there not, they can be 100's of hours to make/get, and if that's a casual player your looking at longer.
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]Items shouldn't drop RvR or PVP
Just makes ppl quit if they lose somthing of value, and I think it's silly you want a map that's ment to be a benafit to owning and then force ppl to go in shit gear or risk losing it. It's already a open pvp map with no risk for the humans as they have hero armor.
Bring in other penaltys other than item drops, if upgrades and top items was easyer to get then fair enough, but there not, they can be 100's of hours to make/get, and if that's a casual player your looking at longer.
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#54 2017/01/16 09:12:06 |
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JHAELIEN |
Always been on the fence about items dropping in pvp because it's usually by dc or someone being careless not checking their penalty.
Does also relate back to pking having literally zero point though if there's nothing to be gained there's no reason to give yourself that apparently harder life for fa.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Always been on the fence about items dropping in pvp because it's usually by dc or someone being careless not checking their penalty.
Does also relate back to pking having literally zero point though if there's nothing to be gained there's no reason to give yourself that apparently harder life for fa. [/quote]
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#55 2017/01/16 10:14:45 |
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"JARAGOONDOO""MANTICORE"u already cant loose items from getting pked unless u dont carry ressies and u revive untill 10% penalty which is ur fault and u get what u deserved This, I went through a period where my internet had thousands of errors on the line and was dropping out for months until they fixed it, died a lot and dropped a lot of items....Some will say "why log in then?" well I was trying to help defend fellow guild members who incidentally gave u....as when I dropped two epic grims in one dc death I rage temp quit haha, and couldn't defend them. Item drop on DC death has always been the thing that bugs me most about soma, it was great they fixed it to NPCs but maybe they should fix it for PVP as its ridiculous no one would choose to warp to town...
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="MANTICORE"]u already cant loose items from getting pked unless u dont carry ressies and u revive untill 10% penalty which is ur fault and u get what u deserved [/quote]
Lemme ask you something.
Say you're in a PK fight, then your internet cuts out. Your character stays in game. You get killed. You drop your +5 epic bow.
How would you feel? Would you quit? Was it your fault? Did you deserve it?
I honestly don't see the point in dropping items on PvP death, cause the only time anyone will realistically drop something is when it's out of their control.
I think stuff dropped in conti (to opposing race) is fair game, though. Shouldn't be taking your valuables to conti when devils/humans will raid.[/quote]
This, I went through a period where my internet had thousands of errors on the line and was dropping out for months until they fixed it, died a lot and dropped a lot of items....Some will say "why log in then?" well I was trying to help defend fellow guild members who incidentally gave u....as when I dropped two epic grims in one dc death I rage temp quit haha, and couldn't defend them.
Item drop on DC death has always been the thing that bugs me most about soma, it was great they fixed it to NPCs but maybe they should fix it for PVP as its ridiculous no one would choose to warp to town...[/quote]
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#56 2017/01/16 12:45:50 |
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MAIZHIYING |
Removin RvR item loss would make me go to conti more that's for sure. I'd never risk my gear on conti so I end up never going because hunting is basic gear is pointless and slow
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#57 2017/01/16 13:09:37 |
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DEIMOS |
Could make for More interesting fights with more there
Maybe make better use of pos like suggested before and stop dropping items |
#58 2017/01/16 13:22:57 |
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FINITO [Staff] |
Moved this thread into Ideas and Suggestions.
Item drop for PvP and RvR has currently stayed in the game because we felt that it would go against what Soma is though looking at it now and how much effort goes into acquiring top items and the fact that majority of the time you will never lose items anyway because of the ways to escape an engagement, plus the majority of replies here supporting a removal, I am for this change and trying it out. I do like the ideas around some kind of point system (possibly pos but not sure about that) and linking it to who is defeated and making it reduce if same player is repeatedly defeated.
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[quote="FINITO"][b]Moved this thread into Ideas and Suggestions.[/b]
Item drop for PvP and RvR has currently stayed in the game because we felt that it would go against what Soma is though looking at it now and how much effort goes into acquiring top items and the fact that majority of the time you will never lose items anyway because of the ways to escape an engagement, plus the majority of replies here supporting a removal, I am for this change and trying it out.
I do like the ideas around some kind of point system (possibly pos but not sure about that) and linking it to who is defeated and making it reduce if same player is repeatedly defeated.[/quote]
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#59 2017/06/01 02:10:39 |
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VEIGAR |
"FINITO"Moved this thread into Ideas and Suggestions. I think some sort of "reward" system will be needed to compensate this not just gender pots and holy waters.
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[quote="VEIGAR"][quote="FINITO"][b]Moved this thread into Ideas and Suggestions.[/b]
Item drop for PvP and RvR has currently stayed in the game because we felt that it would go against what Soma is though looking at it now and how much effort goes into acquiring top items and the fact that majority of the time you will never lose items anyway because of the ways to escape an engagement, plus the majority of replies here supporting a removal, I am for this change and trying it out.
I do like the ideas around some kind of point system (possibly pos but not sure about that) and linking it to who is defeated and making it reduce if same player is repeatedly defeated.[/quote]
I think some sort of "reward" system will be needed to compensate this not just gender pots and holy waters.[/quote]
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#60 2017/06/01 12:31:36 |
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