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30con uses is +8 blood of 8? GM are you kidding me?

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My theory was the esoma % grief bug, they could of been using a different bug. I never saw them doing it - guildies told me, I was guessing ;p. Being below lvl 15 having them stats and has been seen doing con on prisms for weeks, obviously something is weird ;p "lul"
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[quote="SABRE"]My theory was the esoma % grief bug, they could of been using a different bug. I never saw them doing it - guildies told me, I was guessing ;p. Being below lvl 15 having them stats and has been seen doing con on prisms for weeks, obviously something is weird ;p "lul"[/quote]
has 30 str and 30 dex aswell if i remember right
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[quote="LORDCOOS"]has 30 str and 30 dex aswell if i remember right[/quote]
"LORDCOOS"has 30 str and 30 dex aswell if i remember right


using staff aura to gain str/dex maybe, I seem to remember this being a problem on the test server?
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[quote="CHASTITY"][quote="LORDCOOS"]has 30 str and 30 dex aswell if i remember right[/quote] using staff aura to gain str/dex maybe, I seem to remember this being a problem on the test server? [/quote]
This kind of thing takes a lot of effort, I don't see too much of a problem.
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[quote="BLACKHAT"]This kind of thing takes a lot of effort, I don't see too much of a problem. [/quote]
TBH I checked this on devil and can't see that Griefing % works as "intended". On devil griefing to base at low level and repeating for 99's of % will produce great gains for the next level. Now that the stat "buckets" have been artificially bloated the subsequent level or levels if leveling normally will result in low or no gains until exp required for level is sufficient to fill stat buckets. OR you repeat to first process increasing the times griefed power 2? Wow that sounds fun.

Now if there were a tournament system or something with fixed lvl brackets I could see griefing to build a toon to a specific level.
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[quote="LEVV"]TBH I checked this on devil and can't see that Griefing % works as "intended". On devil griefing to base at low level and repeating for 99's of % will produce great gains for the next level. Now that the stat "buckets" have been artificially bloated the subsequent level or levels if leveling normally will result in low or no gains until exp required for level is sufficient to fill stat buckets. OR you repeat to first process increasing the times griefed power 2? Wow that sounds fun. Now if there were a tournament system or something with fixed lvl brackets I could see griefing to build a toon to a specific level.[/quote]
"ASBJORN"
Would be do able if he had done it on brics but i think everyone saw him doing con on prismatics just out side of abais town so must have been gaining some serious xp with rested on them as at no point has it gone over level 16


Prisms have 26 defence.
Prisms have 528 hp.
Prisms give 1.625 exp per HP.
So he'd be getting 1.625 exp per hit if he's under 27.5 str.

Brics have 4 defence.
Brics have 27 hp.
Brics give 6 total exp.
Brics are 5 hit with 10 str.
Brics give 1.20 exp per hit.

There's not much difference at all.
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[quote="SILENCE"][quote="ASBJORN"] Would be do able if he had done it on brics but i think everyone saw him doing con on prismatics just out side of abais town so must have been gaining some serious xp with rested on them as at no point has it gone over level 16 [/quote] Prisms have 26 defence. Prisms have 528 hp. Prisms give 1.625 exp per HP. So he'd be getting 1.625 exp per hit if he's under 27.5 str. Brics have 4 defence. Brics have 27 hp. Brics give 6 total exp. Brics are 5 hit with 10 str. Brics give 1.20 exp per hit. There's not much difference at all.[/quote]
Kudos for reaching 30 CON using that method, it's not difficult to not lose CON on death. Very time consuming, but would be horrible without the constant rested XP. The Human CON system is really bad, with the same end result, it shouldn't be so tedious.
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[quote="KING"]Kudos for reaching 30 CON using that method, it's not difficult to not lose CON on death. Very time consuming, but would be horrible without the constant rested XP. The Human CON system is really bad, with the same end result, it shouldn't be so tedious.[/quote]
"KING"Kudos for reaching 30 CON using that method, it's not difficult to not lose CON on death. Very time consuming, but would be horrible without the constant rested XP. The Human CON system is really bad, with the same end result, it shouldn't be so tedious.


Agree congrats on reaching 30. Is the last extra bonus still at 31.1?
If you think the fist system is bad for humans come check the devil side sometime. However, if you want a decent toon in either world, a fair bit of punching needs to be done.
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[quote="I0_0I"][quote="KING"]Kudos for reaching 30 CON using that method, it's not difficult to not lose CON on death. Very time consuming, but would be horrible without the constant rested XP. The Human CON system is really bad, with the same end result, it shouldn't be so tedious.[/quote] Agree congrats on reaching 30. Is the last extra bonus still at 31.1? If you think the fist system is bad for humans come check the devil side sometime. However, if you want a decent toon in either world, a fair bit of punching needs to be done.[/quote]
"I0_0I"
"KING"Kudos for reaching 30 CON using that method, it's not difficult to not lose CON on death. Very time consuming, but would be horrible without the constant rested XP. The Human CON system is really bad, with the same end result, it shouldn't be so tedious.


Agree congrats on reaching 30. Is the last extra bonus still at 31.1?
If you think the fist system is bad for humans come check the devil side sometime. However, if you want a decent toon in either world, a fair bit of punching needs to be done.


Con cap is 30 - which is also the last bonus. :)
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="I0_0I"][quote="KING"]Kudos for reaching 30 CON using that method, it's not difficult to not lose CON on death. Very time consuming, but would be horrible without the constant rested XP. The Human CON system is really bad, with the same end result, it shouldn't be so tedious.[/quote] Agree congrats on reaching 30. Is the last extra bonus still at 31.1? If you think the fist system is bad for humans come check the devil side sometime. However, if you want a decent toon in either world, a fair bit of punching needs to be done.[/quote] Con cap is 30 - which is also the last bonus. :)[/quote]
With the way bag and hp is now calculated i see little point in getting 30 con so early.
You may as well wait to do it all in one level or do it bit by bit to relieve the boredom.

As far as griefing goes. Is there a rule about not getting killed over and over?

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[quote="SCOIN"]With the way bag and hp is now calculated i see little point in getting 30 con so early. You may as well wait to do it all in one level or do it bit by bit to relieve the boredom. As far as griefing goes. Is there a rule about not getting killed over and over? [/quote]
"SCOIN"
As far as griefing goes. Is there a rule about not getting killed over and over?



There isn't. So far there isn't any proof that it's benificial.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="SCOIN"] As far as griefing goes. Is there a rule about not getting killed over and over? [/quote] There isn't. So far there isn't any proof that it's benificial.[/quote]
In fact, my question is very simple, I just want to ask GM 30 CON and 18CON to 100 HP is not the same on
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[quote="VIP_QG"]In fact, my question is very simple, I just want to ask GM 30 CON and 18CON to 100 HP is not the same on [/quote]
Please GM said, I do not want this pointless hard.
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[quote="VIP_QG"]Please GM said, I do not want this pointless hard. [/quote]
"VIP_QG"In fact, my question is very simple, I just want to ask GM 30 CON and 18CON to 100 HP is not the same on


Let's say 18 con gives a bonus of 2 hp per lvl and 30 con gives a bonus of 5 HP per lvl (I'm pulling numbers out of the air). This means at lvl 20 you will have a HP advantage of 60. At lvl 100 this would mean you'd have 300 HP more. Again these numbers are made up.

As you get higher level you benefit more from the bonus. The HP is updated after you level up, not after reaching 30 con.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="VIP_QG"]In fact, my question is very simple, I just want to ask GM 30 CON and 18CON to 100 HP is not the same on [/quote] Let's say 18 con gives a bonus of 2 hp per lvl and 30 con gives a bonus of 5 HP per lvl (I'm pulling numbers out of the air). This means at lvl 20 you will have a HP advantage of 60. At lvl 100 this would mean you'd have 300 HP more. Again these numbers are made up. As you get higher level you benefit more from the bonus. The HP is updated after you level up, not after reaching 30 con.[/quote]

 

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