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If i break more then 35 intense weapon's and wasted more then 100 eggs and only made +2 weapons i think ur an idiot and believe this % cuz im pretty sure this % doenst work on man sorry i cant believe it since 140 skill rules said 1/5 succ and still getting 5-6 fails in row so that mean something wrong just wonder if i had them on hsoma how my gears look like....
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[quote="WAGAWAGA"]If i break more then 35 intense weapon's and wasted more then 100 eggs and only made +2 weapons i think ur an idiot and believe this % cuz im pretty sure this % doenst work on man sorry i cant believe it since 140 skill rules said 1/5 succ and still getting 5-6 fails in row so that mean something wrong just wonder if i had them on hsoma how my gears look like....[/quote]
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#16 2017/02/16 18:59:41 |
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FLICKTHEBEAN |
140skill doesnt do anything more than 100. If you mean you have got 150skill, I still break most of my stuff to +1/2/3, took 33 bows to get a +5 recently.
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#17 2017/02/16 19:04:32 |
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FLICKTHEBEAN |
FlickTheBean The rolling odds make more sense than the static odds.
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[quote="FLICKTHEBEAN"][quote=FlickTheBean]
100skill 150skill 200skill
+1 56% 67% 68%
+2 52% 64% 66%
+3 48% 61% 64%
+4 44% 58% 62%
+5 40% 55% 60%
+6 36% 52% 58%
+7 32% 49% 56%
+8 28% 46% 54%
Rolling Odds (+0~+X) Edit due to questions: (Think like an Accumulator bet)
[b]100skill[/b];
+0~+1: 56%
+0~+2: 29.12%
+0~+3: 13.9776%
+0~+4: 6.150144%
+0~+5: 2.4600576%
+0~+6: 0.885629736%
+0~+7: 0.28340151552%
+0~+8: 0.0793524243456%
[b]150skill[/b];
+0~+1: 67%
+0~+2: 42.88%
+0~+3: 26.1568%
+0~+4: 15.170944%
+0~+5: 8.3440192%
+0~+6: 4.338889984%
+0~+7: 2.12605609216%
+0~+8: 0.9779858023936%
[b]200skill[/b]
+0~+1: 68%
+0~+2: 44.88%
+0~+3: 28.7232%
+0~+4: 17.808384%
+0~+5: 10.6850304%
+0~+6: 6.197317632%
+0~+7: 3.47049787392%
+0~+8: 1.8740688519168%
So as you can see from the above information. Before you press upgrade, pray to jesus, satan and the wizard of oz, spin round three times, throw a bowl of salt over your shoulder, spin three more times in reverse, sing god save the queen, then press the button and suceed 100% of the time. Easy.
Edit: 0skill upgrades, such as ToW, DT, RDT use the 150skill numbers as its template.[/quote]
The rolling odds make more sense than the static odds.[/quote]
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#18 2017/02/16 19:07:37 |
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WAGAWAGA |
140 skill for eggs/ mean 1/5 succ im not taalking about pods,acc, atk upg request 152skill 1/5 succ and yes 140 skill for dsoma is alot and still didnt get it
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#19 2017/02/16 19:10:38 |
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Mayb its coz u have acc skill and not weap and not even mentioning armour as we cant craft armours hence we fail most of our armours
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#20 2017/02/16 19:22:57 |
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XAXA |
Dosnt make a difference kekket
I understand the upgrade chance Is dsoma on the same upgrade % as hsoma is tho ? Is dsoma crafting skill the same rate as hsoma ? Would love if a gm could post the statistics of hsoma upgrades vs dsoma Also like to point out that all dsoma upgrades are nerfed compared to hsoma and there's no evasion(which is fine), I know there's been a thread before about upgrade %, however dsoma feels worse, maybe that's just me ? Also there must be somthing at play fir one player to have 4 +8 upgrades with a 1% chance
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[quote="XAXA"]Dosnt make a difference kekket
I understand the upgrade chance
Is dsoma on the same upgrade % as hsoma is tho ? Is dsoma crafting skill the same rate as hsoma ?
Would love if a gm could post the statistics of hsoma upgrades vs dsoma
Also like to point out that all dsoma upgrades are nerfed compared to hsoma and there's no evasion(which is fine), I know there's been a thread before about upgrade %, however dsoma feels worse, maybe that's just me ?
Also there must be somthing at play fir one player to have 4 +8 upgrades with a 1% chance
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#21 2017/02/16 20:05:22 |
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the major problem is devils get less upgrades weps and armours
if you got 3/4 apus bows in a hunt and they broke.. you wouldn't really give a shit. you could farm the upgrade and the weapon back in a day at most but when it takes days/weeks to get a grim bow. months to get an egg (hunting) it is painfull
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[quote="_JR_"]the major problem is devils get less upgrades weps and armours
if you got 3/4 apus bows in a hunt and they broke.. you wouldn't really give a shit. you could farm the upgrade and the weapon back in a day at most
but when it takes days/weeks to get a grim bow. months to get an egg (hunting) it is painfull[/quote]
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#22 2017/02/16 21:32:52 |
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STONES |
upgrades system for me is good working good
the main problem its wat _JR_ talked u need months to get and upgrade/wep for skill acc/wep need to be more fast then hsoma its hard on dsoma making skill acc/wep coz u will run all days selling / buy mats there is no npc near the anvil as hsoma about KE'S shouldnot add to armor and gives accurcy coz i tested on axer lvl 100 have set+1 against archer seems to me unblanace coz axer hit archer only 2 hit wot if u give the axer full set +5 acc and dex somthin wrong here only my wish to the gm's to let mobs drop more weps upgrades coz pple working hard to get stuff i played stones 4 years i cryed to get intense KOD lets us all know that never had intense KOD and i almost played 24/7 i farmed all mobs even brics in town never had one until the combine system arived and it was klkl to me we all need a change and we still w8ng for the patch maybe gm's will play it good and surprize us wiz new stuff ^^
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[quote="STONES"]upgrades system for me is good working good
the main problem its wat _JR_ talked u need months to get and upgrade/wep
for skill acc/wep need to be more fast then hsoma its hard on dsoma making skill acc/wep coz u will run all days selling / buy mats there is no npc near the anvil as hsoma
about KE'S shouldnot add to armor and gives accurcy coz i tested on axer lvl 100 have set+1 against archer seems to me unblanace coz axer hit archer only 2 hit wot if u give the axer full set +5 acc and dex somthin wrong here
only my wish to the gm's to let mobs drop more weps upgrades coz pple working hard to get stuff i played stones 4 years i cryed to get intense KOD lets us all know that never had intense KOD and i almost played 24/7 i farmed all mobs even brics in town never had one until the combine system arived and it was klkl to me
we all need a change and we still w8ng for the patch maybe gm's will play it good and surprize us wiz new stuff
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#23 2017/02/17 06:25:48 |
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GRAVIJA |
I can't say I've bothered with Dsoma crafting, the reason being it isn't transparent enough for me to put time in to.
I wouldn't say the success rate needs to be increased per say, but the way to get upgrades isn't as linear as Hsoma IE: collect enough frogs ect and try for an upgrade. I honestly think a full Dsoma recipe list needs to be published (so people who craft have somewhere to find all the information needed) and maybe a couple of added ways to obtain upgrades. everything is currency on Hsoma, frogs,herbs,LL,gems. On Dsoma its tagged invuln or intense weapons lol. I've had a few gems since drops added but not knowing what they do or having skill to prepare any upgrades myself (due to the lack of willingness to craft because lack of knowledge towards Dsoma recipies) I can't say they really mean much to me at the moment.
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[quote="GRAVIJA"]I can't say I've bothered with Dsoma crafting, the reason being it isn't transparent enough for me to put time in to.
I wouldn't say the success rate needs to be increased per say, but the way to get upgrades isn't as linear as Hsoma IE: collect enough frogs ect and try for an upgrade.
I honestly think a full Dsoma recipe list needs to be published (so people who craft have somewhere to find all the information needed) and maybe a couple of added ways to obtain upgrades.
everything is currency on Hsoma, frogs,herbs,LL,gems. On Dsoma its tagged invuln or intense weapons lol.
I've had a few gems since drops added but not knowing what they do or having skill to prepare any upgrades myself (due to the lack of willingness to craft because lack of knowledge towards Dsoma recipies) I can't say they really mean much to me at the moment.
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#24 2017/02/17 08:17:31 |
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JAHEIRA |
"GRAVIJA" ingame help file in text format
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="GRAVIJA"]
I honestly think a full Dsoma recipe list needs to be published (so people who craft have somewhere to find all the information needed) and maybe a couple of added ways to obtain upgrades.
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[url=https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=13389&Page=1#post94540]ingame help file in text format[/url]
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#25 2017/02/17 10:38:28 |
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TYPHIN |
Alternatively my spreadsheet is also available. I put a lot of work into mininzing and confirming dsoma weops
my updated spreadsheet |
#26 2017/02/17 10:54:22 |
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ROCH |
I got up to the point where Waga called Flick an idiot for using Mathematics, successive probability and binominal distribution to express actual success chances, taking the time to lay them out neatly and coherently in a table for everyone to use... then I died a little inside.
Obviously maniacal rambling hearsay is better evidence of the solution to complex problems.
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[quote="ROCH"]I got up to the point where Waga called Flick an idiot for using Mathematics, successive probability and binominal distribution to express actual success chances, taking the time to lay them out neatly and coherently in a table for everyone to use... then I died a little inside.
Obviously maniacal rambling hearsay is better evidence of the solution to complex problems.[/quote]
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#27 2017/02/17 11:29:18 |
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"ROCH"I got up to the point where Waga called Flick an idiot for using Mathematics, successive probability and binominal distribution to express actual success chances, taking the time to lay them out neatly and coherently in a table for everyone to use... then I died a little inside. There's need of mathematical evidence to drop rates for upgrades and equipment. Humans got conti look how many LB weps are arround. Devils got conti, 1-2 weps to sell ? If not drop rates increase, then upgrade chance increase, to balance everything. also h soma upgrades gives more % and recoil.
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[quote="DONKA"][quote="ROCH"]I got up to the point where Waga called Flick an idiot for using Mathematics, successive probability and binominal distribution to express actual success chances, taking the time to lay them out neatly and coherently in a table for everyone to use... then I died a little inside.
Obviously maniacal rambling hearsay is better evidence of the solution to complex problems.[/quote]
There's need of mathematical evidence to drop rates for upgrades and equipment.
Humans got conti look how many LB weps are arround.
Devils got conti, 1-2 weps to sell ?
If not drop rates increase, then upgrade chance increase, to balance everything.
also h soma upgrades gives more % and recoil.[/quote]
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#28 2017/02/17 18:06:47 |
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LB is not top tier. If you want more mobs to drop malefic level stuff then fine. I agree! what that has to do with crafting though...
The other thing is. not very many devils who know how to make upgrades have done much work to publicize that. you also had a patch that recently added alot of gems to lower level mobs... you guys give the impression that humans can just go kill a mob and an upgrade drops... you seem to ignore the fact that alot of humans craft at minimum to get sr and max to be able to safely perform their own upgrades... put the fkin work in and then come back when you have 150+ weop/access... sitting bitching and moaning to folks like flick who just tries to help. not even to mention that the next major content patch is bringing alot to dsoma. so if you wanted to build a magma farming char you only having to wait for stat reset.......
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[quote="TYPHIN"]LB is not top tier. If you want more mobs to drop malefic level stuff then fine. I agree! what that has to do with crafting though...
The other thing is. not very many devils who know how to make upgrades have done much work to publicize that.
you also had a patch that recently added alot of gems to lower level mobs...
you guys give the impression that humans can just go kill a mob and an upgrade drops...
you seem to ignore the fact that alot of humans craft at minimum to get sr and max to be able to safely perform their own upgrades... put the fkin work in and then come back when you have 150+ weop/access...
sitting bitching and moaning to folks like flick who just tries to help.
not even to mention that the next major content patch is bringing alot to dsoma. so if you wanted to build a magma farming char you only having to wait for stat reset.......
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#29 2017/02/17 18:17:13 |
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DONKA |
Well Typh.
Restocks and drops are hurting the most mate. u don't drop 1 EP on blg a 30 lvl mate :) |
#30 2017/02/17 18:40:30 |
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