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[quote="FLICKTHEBEAN"][quote="ISYLVER"]I'd be willing to try 75% for third spear and 125% for 5th.[/quote] Shall look forward to it : ) Also - Will anything be done to the cooldowns?[/quote]

[quote="NEOXIAN"]I think to make 75/125% work we would need some form of cool down fix. Possibly split the difference between 2nd and 3rd and make it 14 second cool down[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]It's mainly the cooldowns which hit you the most :/[/quote]

[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]I'd say a 15/16 second cooldown on 3rd and 5th with 75% and 125% respectively would be good. That puts it at double the CD of 2nd (I think).[/quote]

[quote="CYROX"]Boosting the % alone to 75/125 will not be enough. As previously stated it was still considered average in esoma at 100/150. We are only looking at a pve orientated skill here so I don't think what we are discussing will unbalance anything. 75/125 with a shorter cooldown may be nice, I like the sound of 15/16secs. [/quote]

[quote="CND"][quote="ISYLVER"]I'd be willing to try 75% for third spear and 125% for 5th.[/quote] is this ingame yet?[/quote]

[quote="THEMAT"][quote="CND"][quote="ISYLVER"]I'd be willing to try 75% for third spear and 125% for 5th.[/quote] is this ingame yet?[/quote] I haven't felt any change if it has been added. Really could do with some form of buff, even if it was just a CD reduction and kept the same power. Totally gimped at the moment trying to hunt and not being able to use a shield.[/quote]

[quote="THEMAT"]Cheers Dan. [/quote]

[quote="CND"]cheers ^^ i like the lil buff, have used it alot more now than i used to, strong enough to save you a couple pots, but not overpowered to be used constantly ^^ [/quote]

[quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"]Bump fpr peoples views on the aura tweek. I personally never used it prior to the tweek, as i only just hit 80 skill. But from my basic testing (all be it wraiths / ds) it seems ok. Not amazing, but if I wish to hunt with no pots at wraiths it is very much doable, a 2 minute kill slow down while i heal up. At 300 odd hp and 75 str it gives me around 1/4 hp per cast which is pretty decent. Although I feel it may be more lackluster when it comes to DW as they will hurt more. However it certainly helps as a last gasp when running out of pots. I find it more beneficial when tackling 1 mob at a time rather than consistant mobs, as you can use your last hit to cast 3rd and so your cooldown is used during your search for the next mob. Whats everyone elses views? Out of curiosity aswell. What would be more effective, 4th spear or 5th spear now? [/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"] Out of curiosity aswell. What would be more effective, 4th spear or 5th spear now? [/quote] 4th spear has always lost to 2nd in my eyes. 5th is situational.[/quote]

[quote="GILGAMESH"]I unfortunately still can't see a reason to ever not use 2nd spear; the new 3rd lets me hunt at lb's without using any pots. In theory this is really nice.... but it comes at the cost of leveling speed. For me, if it comes down to a choice between minutes off of 1 hour 40 min str gains, or saving barr..... I think I know which I will pick every time (and this is if you don't have a personal healer anyway.... which you pretty much have to if you want to level past palus and aren't an axer/sword). As for 5th, if its on the same cooldown, it still loses out to 2nd in terms of dps, and hence I probably wont be using it except maybe for some gimmicky pvp tricks 2nd spear is probably the best aura in the game, it increases your dps massively, cheats mobs with high defensive dex allowing you to hunt them earlier than you should, and is amazing for pvp because of its low cd. There has to be a pretty massive incentive for me to not use 2nd and I can't imagine what it would be, without being completely imbalanced. Just my opinion on the matter, as someone not needing to save time by re-potting at wraiths/dw's. I do appreciate the change however, its definitely nice seeing GM's attempting to re-scale underused auras and streamline classes, but 2nd is just too strong not to use (plz don't nerf it!!!!) [/quote]