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still think the best fix would be to leave 3rd and 5th (maybe up them slightly for hsoma)
And make it so spear can use 2 sets of auras at the same time, each set having there own cool down Set 1 = 2nd and 4th Set 2 = 3rd and 5th This gives spear more than one aura to use as one would lvl with both and not having 3rd or 5ths slow cooldowns stop them from using 2nd. Anything other than this would just make one aura better than another and leave spear in the same boat it is now, 1 aura class
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[quote="RELINA"]still think the best fix would be to leave 3rd and 5th (maybe up them slightly for hsoma)
And make it so spear can use 2 sets of auras at the same time, each set having there own cool down
Set 1 = 2nd and 4th
Set 2 = 3rd and 5th
This gives spear more than one aura to use as one would lvl with both and not having 3rd or 5ths slow cooldowns stop them from using 2nd.
Anything other than this would just make one aura better than another and leave spear in the same boat it is now, 1 aura class
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#91 2014/03/24 21:05:28 |
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"RELINA"still think the best fix would be to leave 3rd and 5th (maybe up them slightly for hsoma) Why stop at 2? Change every aura for every weapon to an individual unconnected cool down and allow them to all be used simultaneously, status changing auras like 2nd Axe/4th Axe couldn't be overlapped obviously. Might finally bias the game in favor of Spear/Sword/Knuckle PvP wise.
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[quote="SILENCE"][quote="RELINA"]still think the best fix would be to leave 3rd and 5th (maybe up them slightly for hsoma)
And make it so spear can use 2 sets of auras at the same time, each set having there own cool down
Set 1 = 2nd and 4th
Set 2 = 3rd and 5th
This gives spear more than one aura to use as one would lvl with both and not having 3rd or 5ths slow cooldowns stop them from using 2nd.
Anything other than this would just make one aura better than another and leave spear in the same boat it is now, 1 aura class
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Why stop at 2?
Change every aura for every weapon to an individual unconnected cool down and allow them to all be used simultaneously, status changing auras like 2nd Axe/4th Axe couldn't be overlapped obviously.
Might finally bias the game in favor of Spear/Sword/Knuckle PvP wise.[/quote]
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#92 2014/03/25 07:00:10 |
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RELINA |
It would defenetly be intresting to see, bring a lot more tactics to the game but also could unbalance the game more. Like to see this added to spear then take it from there
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#93 2014/03/25 08:35:06 |
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Would be massively OP for spear then.
You'd be able to do a melee swing and 3 hits (or 4 with Silence's idea) in the space of a single strike. Melee, 2nd, 3rd/5th, 4th. Spear already has the highest burst ingame, and giving it separate cooldowns would exacerbate this. If 3rd/5th did no damage at all, they could be taken off the same aura cooldown as 2nd, couldn't see it working any other way.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Would be massively OP for spear then.
You'd be able to do a melee swing and 3 hits (or 4 with Silence's idea) in the space of a single strike.
Melee, 2nd, 3rd/5th, 4th.
Spear already has the highest burst ingame, and giving it separate cooldowns would exacerbate this.
If 3rd/5th did no damage at all, they could be taken off the same aura cooldown as 2nd, couldn't see it working any other way.[/quote]
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#94 2014/03/25 09:38:13 |
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"S0RCERER" You can't do spells on top of each other, so I doubt you could do auras on top of each other even with no cool down and you can change it to 1s if that truly is a problem.
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[quote="SILENCE"][quote="S0RCERER"]
You'd be able to do a melee swing and 3 hits (or 4 with Silence's idea) in the space of a single strike.
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You can't do spells on top of each other, so I doubt you could do auras on top of each other even with no cool down and you can change it to 1s if that truly is a problem.[/quote]
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#95 2014/03/25 10:03:56 |
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"SILENCE""S0RCERER" The only reason you cannot do spells on top of eachother is because they each have a cast time (recoil). Auras do not. Much in the way you can cast a spell at the same time as an aura (-M tag) you are able to cast 2 auras simultaneously.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="SILENCE"][quote="S0RCERER"]
You'd be able to do a melee swing and 3 hits (or 4 with Silence's idea) in the space of a single strike.
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You can't do spells on top of each other, so I doubt you could do auras on top of each other even with no cool down and you can change it to 1s if that truly is a problem.[/quote]
The only reason you cannot do spells on top of eachother is because they each have a cast time (recoil).
Auras do not.
Much in the way you can cast a spell at the same time as an aura (-M tag) you are able to cast 2 auras simultaneously.[/quote]
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#96 2014/03/25 10:07:51 |
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RELINA |
"S0RCERER"Would be massively OP for spear then. why I only stated 2 sets of cooldowns, so could only use 2nd OR 4th and 3rd OR 5th
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[quote="RELINA"][quote="S0RCERER"]Would be massively OP for spear then.
You'd be able to do a melee swing and 3 hits (or 4 with Silence's idea) in the space of a single strike.
Melee, 2nd, 3rd/5th, 4th.
Spear already has the highest burst ingame, and giving it separate cooldowns would exacerbate this.
If 3rd/5th did no damage at all, they could be taken off the same aura cooldown as 2nd, couldn't see it working any other way.[/quote]
why I only stated 2 sets of cooldowns, so could only use 2nd OR 4th and 3rd OR 5th
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#97 2014/03/25 11:39:04 |
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NEOXIAN |
making it so you can use 3rd/5th and 2nd on 2 different auras is much the same of just giving 2nd a heal effect :o which i would welcome also.
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#98 2014/03/25 13:05:24 |
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REHLINA |
"NEOXIAN"making it so you can use 3rd/5th and 2nd on 2 different auras is much the same of just giving 2nd a heal effect :o which i would welcome also. Yes, but you would be using two auras, which is what spear needs imo |
#99 2014/03/30 18:27:37 |
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Spear would be a amazing weapon, if just it was looked at more closely, 2nd aura is just a beast with a guaranteed hit every 6 seconds, but what I think in my opinion is that the hit rate of it, and speed of spear is just not worth it, as well as auras (talking about 3rd/5th) they pretty cool, but I don't think anyone will honestly go for 5th spear, could use a buff/debuff.
I did start a spear character on lauch, but since the dex was just so f*cking bullshit I just went knuckle ;p P.S: 100Th Comment ;b
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[quote="LARIM"]Spear would be a amazing weapon, if just it was looked at more closely, 2nd aura is just a beast with a guaranteed hit every 6 seconds, but what I think in my opinion is that the hit rate of it, and speed of spear is just not worth it, as well as auras (talking about 3rd/5th) they pretty cool, but I don't think anyone will honestly go for 5th spear, could use a buff/debuff.
I did start a spear character on lauch, but since the dex was just so f*cking bullshit I just went knuckle ;p
P.S: 100Th Comment ;b[/quote]
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#100 2014/03/31 19:38:04 |
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HAUX |
Bump
Please change 3rd/5th aura and make them worth while. At the moment I'd sooner use 2nd aura in PvP and PVE over 4th, everything after second aura seems useless. Why not make spear have a 3rd and 5th aura like sword and knuckle that aoes? |
#101 2014/06/26 18:50:52 |
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KIWI |
Just had a thought for a new 4th/5th aura. Once upon a time i used to play Muonline and the archer class had a penetration aura which went through everything on the screen :P. My suggestion would be to use 2nd spear, upgrade the power slightly and have it to hit through 4-5 spaces. Wouldnt be ideal all the time and would probably only use 4-5 spaces on hectic pvp or events. I think just by making it the same as 2nd with more power would make it half decent instead of using 2nd for life :)
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[quote="KIWI"]Just had a thought for a new 4th/5th aura. Once upon a time i used to play Muonline and the archer class had a penetration aura which went through everything on the screen :P. My suggestion would be to use 2nd spear, upgrade the power slightly and have it to hit through 4-5 spaces. Wouldnt be ideal all the time and would probably only use 4-5 spaces on hectic pvp or events. I think just by making it the same as 2nd with more power would make it half decent instead of using 2nd for life :)
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#102 2014/07/07 16:39:28 |
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JAHEIRA |
Still like the idea of putting 3rd/5th on a different set of cooldowns, so you can use attacking aura with hp steal instead of one or the other, meaning 2nd wins out
Finito has confirmed this is possible in the staff aura thread |
#103 2014/07/08 15:13:09 |
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CYRUS |
Bump
*runs* |
#104 2014/10/05 12:46:23 |
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