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With melee at certain strengths you can bounce between hoarde shanis, drazil, elite lizardmen, apus and blg and still get maximum stat bonus. With int once you have hit 89 int you are condemned to nighmares until 176 int. A mob with a few less int than nms thrown in somewhere would break up the monotony of nightmares forever.
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[quote="HADOU"]With melee at certain strengths you can bounce between hoarde shanis, drazil, elite lizardmen, apus and blg and still get maximum stat bonus. With int once you have hit 89 int you are condemned to nighmares until 176 int. A mob with a few less int than nms thrown in somewhere would break up the monotony of nightmares forever. [/quote]
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#1 2017/09/26 22:48:53 |
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SQUEAL |
and possibly the drops looked at. barely anything useful from int mobs except frogs.
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#2 2017/09/27 01:00:56 |
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I agree the drop files are disrespectful. I would have expected tow as an auto include since its int mobs. How is it shanis drop all prep items and isnt the top melee mob yet the best you can hope for on the top int mob is a frog. I would recommend adding tow, nonghons, clean tab, drawing tab, magic attack earring, small diamond and medium sapphire & amithist.
We should have a 140 int mob equal to blg. We had sekhemets on esoma after nightmares, im not sure why we never got dimentals and seks but anyways its pretty much abysmal. Thinking back the drop files of like palus is better than nightmare and thats a mid lvl melee mob.
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[quote="1355"]I agree the drop files are disrespectful. I would have expected tow as an auto include since its int mobs. How is it shanis drop all prep items and isnt the top melee mob yet the best you can hope for on the top int mob is a frog. I would recommend adding tow, nonghons, clean tab, drawing tab, magic attack earring, small diamond and medium sapphire & amithist.
We should have a 140 int mob equal to blg. We had sekhemets on esoma after nightmares, im not sure why we never got dimentals and seks but anyways its pretty much abysmal.
Thinking back the drop files of like palus is better than nightmare and thats a mid lvl melee mob.
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#3 2017/09/29 23:05:28 |
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"1355"I agree the drop files are disrespectful. I would have expected tow as an auto include since its int mobs. How is it shanis drop all prep items and isnt the top melee mob yet the best you can hope for on the top int mob is a frog. I would recommend adding tow, nonghons, clean tab, drawing tab, magic attack earring, small diamond and medium sapphire & amithist. That's because original Soma drops are weirdly made. Everything in VoD kind of drops like that. Nightmares and BLG are an exception because ESoma made them. That's not to say it won't be changed though, I'm just saying why it is like it is. By the way, the difference between NM's int and BLG's str is already only 5. Also remember that Prismatic Shadows were added as an inbetween for Lich Lords and NM's. I don't think we should spend too much time adding a new mob in that tier, there's better things to do with our time if you ask me.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="1355"]I agree the drop files are disrespectful. I would have expected tow as an auto include since its int mobs. How is it shanis drop all prep items and isnt the top melee mob yet the best you can hope for on the top int mob is a frog. I would recommend adding tow, nonghons, clean tab, drawing tab, magic attack earring, small diamond and medium sapphire & amithist.
We should have a 140 int mob equal to blg. We had sekhemets on esoma after nightmares, im not sure why we never got dimentals and seks but anyways its pretty much abysmal.
Thinking back the drop files of like palus is better than nightmare and thats a mid lvl melee mob.
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That's because original Soma drops are weirdly made. Everything in VoD kind of drops like that. Nightmares and BLG are an exception because ESoma made them.
That's not to say it won't be changed though, I'm just saying why it is like it is.
By the way, the difference between NM's int and BLG's str is already only 5. Also remember that Prismatic Shadows were added as an inbetween for Lich Lords and NM's.
I don't think we should spend too much time adding a new mob in that tier, there's better things to do with our time if you ask me.[/quote]
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#4 2017/09/30 09:16:42 |
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WAKKAA |
it can be as simple as adding 'lich king' or something not so homosexual sounding with a new drop file, the same gains as nm's, wouldnt take long and would be well worth to break up the bore that is nms for 96 int in a row.
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#5 2017/09/30 09:28:25 |
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"GHOSTLORD""1355"I agree the drop files are disrespectful. I would have expected tow as an auto include since its int mobs. How is it shanis drop all prep items and isnt the top melee mob yet the best you can hope for on the top int mob is a frog. I would recommend adding tow, nonghons, clean tab, drawing tab, magic attack earring, small diamond and medium sapphire & amithist. look if you think the drops are great just remove the frog too make it even better. There has always been an extreme bias on str getting everything over int. Prisms dropfile is plain bad too, even wraith has a better drop file. It is stupid you cannot hunt +50 mobs past even 100 stats, you might as well just gut the system and remove stat bonuses, let ppl who already done it stay op so new players will always be gimp. At least ppl will lvl fast on weaker things and not have their arm twisted into this nonsense.
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[quote="1355"][quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="1355"]I agree the drop files are disrespectful. I would have expected tow as an auto include since its int mobs. How is it shanis drop all prep items and isnt the top melee mob yet the best you can hope for on the top int mob is a frog. I would recommend adding tow, nonghons, clean tab, drawing tab, magic attack earring, small diamond and medium sapphire & amithist.
We should have a 140 int mob equal to blg. We had sekhemets on esoma after nightmares, im not sure why we never got dimentals and seks but anyways its pretty much abysmal.
Thinking back the drop files of like palus is better than nightmare and thats a mid lvl melee mob.
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That's because original Soma drops are weirdly made. Everything in VoD kind of drops like that. Nightmares and BLG are an exception because ESoma made them.
That's not to say it won't be changed though, I'm just saying why it is like it is.
By the way, the difference between NM's int and BLG's str is already only 5. Also remember that Prismatic Shadows were added as an inbetween for Lich Lords and NM's.
I don't think we should spend too much time adding a new mob in that tier, there's better things to do with our time if you ask me.[/quote]
look if you think the drops are great just remove the frog too make it even better. There has always been an extreme bias on str getting everything over int. Prisms dropfile is plain bad too, even wraith has a better drop file. It is stupid you cannot hunt +50 mobs past even 100 stats, you might as well just gut the system and remove stat bonuses, let ppl who already done it stay op so new players will always be gimp. At least ppl will lvl fast on weaker things and not have their arm twisted into this nonsense.[/quote]
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#6 2017/10/01 16:02:49 |
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"1355""GHOSTLORD""1355"I agree the drop files are disrespectful. I would have expected tow as an auto include since its int mobs. How is it shanis drop all prep items and isnt the top melee mob yet the best you can hope for on the top int mob is a frog. I would recommend adding tow, nonghons, clean tab, drawing tab, magic attack earring, small diamond and medium sapphire & amithist. I don't understand where you're coming from. I barely touched the topic of drops in my post, I was mainly talking about a new mob. Which I don't believe is needed. Nightmares have more INT than BLG have STR, so based on the bonusses surely INT has a slight advantage? If we could we would remove stat bonusses. And we have for the new mobs after lvl 100. We can't change existing mobs so those won't be touched in this regard. There has been a lot of feedback about drops from Nightmares and I understand where it's coming from. I'm not against adding something either. However, I don't feel you are in the right in HSoma to complain about it so strongly when DSoma needs a lot more work in this regard. Looking back at all the updates mages (especially hsoma) has had a lot more added then str has.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="1355"][quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="1355"]I agree the drop files are disrespectful. I would have expected tow as an auto include since its int mobs. How is it shanis drop all prep items and isnt the top melee mob yet the best you can hope for on the top int mob is a frog. I would recommend adding tow, nonghons, clean tab, drawing tab, magic attack earring, small diamond and medium sapphire & amithist.
We should have a 140 int mob equal to blg. We had sekhemets on esoma after nightmares, im not sure why we never got dimentals and seks but anyways its pretty much abysmal.
Thinking back the drop files of like palus is better than nightmare and thats a mid lvl melee mob.
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That's because original Soma drops are weirdly made. Everything in VoD kind of drops like that. Nightmares and BLG are an exception because ESoma made them.
That's not to say it won't be changed though, I'm just saying why it is like it is.
By the way, the difference between NM's int and BLG's str is already only 5. Also remember that Prismatic Shadows were added as an inbetween for Lich Lords and NM's.
I don't think we should spend too much time adding a new mob in that tier, there's better things to do with our time if you ask me.[/quote]
look if you think the drops are great just remove the frog too make it even better. There has always been an extreme bias on str getting everything over int. Prisms dropfile is plain bad too, even wraith has a better drop file. It is stupid you cannot hunt +50 mobs past even 100 stats, you might as well just gut the system and remove stat bonuses, let ppl who already done it stay op so new players will always be gimp. At least ppl will lvl fast on weaker things and not have their arm twisted into this nonsense.[/quote]
I don't understand where you're coming from. I barely touched the topic of drops in my post, I was mainly talking about a new mob. Which I don't believe is needed.
Nightmares have more INT than BLG have STR, so based on the bonusses surely INT has a slight advantage?
If we could we would remove stat bonusses. And we have for the new mobs after lvl 100. We can't change existing mobs so those won't be touched in this regard.
There has been a lot of feedback about drops from Nightmares and I understand where it's coming from. I'm not against adding something either. However, I don't feel you are in the right in HSoma to complain about it so strongly when DSoma needs a lot more work in this regard.
Looking back at all the updates mages (especially hsoma) has had a lot more added then str has. [/quote]
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#7 2017/10/02 09:38:30 |
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