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VALASI |
As mentioned by Openthedoor on Discussion Hall. Make VoD Pk free, that way mags and bosses are protected from pking, and main hunting mobs are protected. People might then not have a reason to moan about it as there is a Pk free map to run for (except during devil hour), especially considering you can't spawn there without a scroll ... maybe extend the devil hour to up the risk abit so VoD isn't always the safest place.
Granted that the mobs may get overly congested, but then you also have Abias mobs anyway (that come with the risk). May decrease PK policing as everyone will now have the opportunity to leg it to there or a nearest town. May increase the appeal to get GVW to get trace too so can avoid PK altogether by warping straight to VoD. This idea reflects the fact that most times PK is an issue is because of a VoD boss spawn, mags and at main hunting mobs at current end game. This way Pk can remain in the game at all times, and maintain the traditional Guild Village and Abias gate spots. Area surrounding the VoD portal may need protecting too to stop camping.
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[quote="VALASI"]As mentioned by Openthedoor on Discussion Hall. Make VoD Pk free, that way mags and bosses are protected from pking, and main hunting mobs are protected. People might then not have a reason to moan about it as there is a Pk free map to run for (except during devil hour), especially considering you can't spawn there without a scroll ... maybe extend the devil hour to up the risk abit so VoD isn't always the safest place.
Granted that the mobs may get overly congested, but then you also have Abias mobs anyway (that come with the risk).
May decrease PK policing as everyone will now have the opportunity to leg it to there or a nearest town.
May increase the appeal to get GVW to get trace too so can avoid PK altogether by warping straight to VoD.
This idea reflects the fact that most times PK is an issue is because of a VoD boss spawn, mags and at main hunting mobs at current end game. This way Pk can remain in the game at all times, and maintain the traditional Guild Village and Abias gate spots.
Area surrounding the VoD portal may need protecting too to stop camping.[/quote]
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#1 2017/11/08 12:29:23 |
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JHAELIEN |
So what's the downside exactly? two blg spawns one is pk free and one isn't so the one outside should drop way better. Pk can remain in game but who can you pk with everyone hiding in vod too scared to come out.
Not being funny but no idea why people seem so scared of pk on a 15 year odd game, at this point you might as well just grab some server files throw them on your pc and play by yourself at that point.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]So what's the downside exactly? two blg spawns one is pk free and one isn't so the one outside should drop way better. Pk can remain in game but who can you pk with everyone hiding in vod too scared to come out.
Not being funny but no idea why people seem so scared of pk on a 15 year odd game, at this point you might as well just grab some server files throw them on your pc and play by yourself at that point.[/quote]
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#2 2017/11/08 12:52:00 |
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RAGE |
Nooooopeeee
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#3 2017/11/08 12:52:12 |
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JHAELIEN |
Also don't take my post as offensive I have nothing against you at all, it's just that most suggestions these days are not coming from people who want to improve pvp but people who want to avoid it entirely and play in their own little world with nothing but perks and benefits. There's already enough rules in place to help prevent harassment imo.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Also don't take my post as offensive I have nothing against you at all, it's just that most suggestions these days are not coming from people who want to improve pvp but people who want to avoid it entirely and play in their own little world with nothing but perks and benefits. There's already enough rules in place to help prevent harassment imo.[/quote]
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#4 2017/11/08 13:14:07 |
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GHOSTLORD |
Considering the origin of the thread - we're talking about a temporary PK removal, right? If so, then I'm all for a command that allows me to disable PK on a specific map. But I don't know if it's actually needed.
I'm against a permanent removal simply because it's the highest human map. It should be a scary place. I do agree devils (and humans in IC) should have a Soma hour extra.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]Considering the origin of the thread - we're talking about a temporary PK removal, right? If so, then I'm all for a command that allows me to disable PK on a specific map. But I don't know if it's actually needed.
I'm against a permanent removal simply because it's the highest human map. It should be a scary place.
I do agree devils (and humans in IC) should have a Soma hour extra.[/quote]
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#5 2017/11/08 13:23:27 |
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OPENTHEDOOR |
My suggestion was for when it gets disabled for whatever reason make it map specific. So at least people can have a war rather than log out due to boredom.
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#6 2017/11/08 14:26:01 |
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FRINGE |
it should be no pk within a range of coords of a boss mob. and for 30 seconds after its death. this would allow every1 to join in at any boss without fear of pk.
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#7 2017/11/08 14:46:44 |
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ISELIX |
"GHOSTLORD"Considering the origin of the thread - we're talking about a temporary PK removal, right? If so, then I'm all for a command that allows me to disable PK on a specific map. But I don't know if it's actually needed. If you make it 20 mins fine, but you need to seriously consider making humans stronger to raid IC and survive devil attacks. It took me until level 90 to be strong enough to survive even a couple of hits
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[quote="ISELIX"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]Considering the origin of the thread - we're talking about a temporary PK removal, right? If so, then I'm all for a command that allows me to disable PK on a specific map. But I don't know if it's actually needed.
I'm against a permanent removal simply because it's the highest human map. It should be a scary place.
I do agree devils (and humans in IC) should have a Soma hour extra.[/quote]
If you make it 20 mins fine, but you need to seriously consider making humans stronger to raid IC and survive devil attacks. It took me until level 90 to be strong enough to survive even a couple of hits [/quote]
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#8 2017/11/08 15:54:33 |
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VALASI |
I agree with everyone's points here, suggested it to maybe stop people crying about PKing. It's just boring having PK disabled full stop when the game was designed for it (and I can't think for the life of me why it's disabled all the time) - with this/or by all means a better suggested example time won't be spent sobbing or policing it.
PK for me, personally, isn't an issue as I don't engage with it and I've never had a problem with it on the receiving end, just to clarify.
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[quote="VALASI"]I agree with everyone's points here, suggested it to maybe stop people crying about PKing. It's just boring having PK disabled full stop when the game was designed for it (and I can't think for the life of me why it's disabled all the time) - with this/or by all means a better suggested example time won't be spent sobbing or policing it.
PK for me, personally, isn't an issue as I don't engage with it and I've never had a problem with it on the receiving end, just to clarify.[/quote]
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#9 2017/11/09 10:52:16 |
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VALASI |
"OPENTHEDOOR"My suggestion was for when it gets disabled for whatever reason make it map specific. So at least people can have a war rather than log out due to boredom. Gotcha, missed the point! |
#10 2017/11/09 10:55:38 |
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BL00D_SHOT |
Make VoD PK free?
Rofl, what planet you on mate ;p |
#11 2017/11/09 11:14:38 |
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JHAELIEN |
"VALASI"I agree with everyone's points here, suggested it to maybe stop people crying about PKing. It's just boring having PK disabled full stop when the game was designed for it (and I can't think for the life of me why it's disabled all the time) - with this/or by all means a better suggested example time won't be spent sobbing or policing it. I've always respected the rules here, never been banned at any point since launch day but sometimes too many regulations can be a bad thing as well. I'll be brutally honest the server is way too soft now, when you've got players charging to the forum after getting pked and when you check their character they've had less than 10 deaths total. Play any popular game that is pvp heavy and it's pretty much like it or lump it but because the community is small here it allows things to be manipulated too easily.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="VALASI"]I agree with everyone's points here, suggested it to maybe stop people crying about PKing. It's just boring having PK disabled full stop when the game was designed for it (and I can't think for the life of me why it's disabled all the time) - with this/or by all means a better suggested example time won't be spent sobbing or policing it.
PK for me, personally, isn't an issue as I don't engage with it and I've never had a problem with it on the receiving end, just to clarify.[/quote]
I've always respected the rules here, never been banned at any point since launch day but sometimes too many regulations can be a bad thing as well.
I'll be brutally honest the server is way too soft now, when you've got players charging to the forum after getting pked and when you check their character they've had less than 10 deaths total.
Play any popular game that is pvp heavy and it's pretty much like it or lump it but because the community is small here it allows things to be manipulated too easily. [/quote]
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#12 2017/11/09 11:55:34 |
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VALASI |
"JHAELIEN""VALASI"I agree with everyone's points here, suggested it to maybe stop people crying about PKing. It's just boring having PK disabled full stop when the game was designed for it (and I can't think for the life of me why it's disabled all the time) - with this/or by all means a better suggested example time won't be spent sobbing or policing it. Totally agree again. Soma isn't designed for softies but it seems this server is centred around it, hence my suggestion following suit to hopefully stem GM supervision. On personal reflection I think it should be as brutal as esoma and the system to be not open to player manipulation, it should be "it is what it is". But seeing as the server IS soft and the system isn't like that, I suggested it to stop people going on about how "unfair" it all is.
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[quote="VALASI"][quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="VALASI"]I agree with everyone's points here, suggested it to maybe stop people crying about PKing. It's just boring having PK disabled full stop when the game was designed for it (and I can't think for the life of me why it's disabled all the time) - with this/or by all means a better suggested example time won't be spent sobbing or policing it.
PK for me, personally, isn't an issue as I don't engage with it and I've never had a problem with it on the receiving end, just to clarify.[/quote]
I've always respected the rules here, never been banned at any point since launch day but sometimes too many regulations can be a bad thing as well.
I'll be brutally honest the server is way too soft now, when you've got players charging to the forum after getting pked and when you check their character they've had less than 10 deaths total.
Play any popular game that is pvp heavy and it's pretty much like it or lump it but because the community is small here it allows things to be manipulated too easily. [/quote]
Totally agree again. Soma isn't designed for softies but it seems this server is centred around it, hence my suggestion following suit to hopefully stem GM supervision. On personal reflection I think it should be as brutal as esoma and the system to be not open to player manipulation, it should be "it is what it is". But seeing as the server IS soft and the system isn't like that, I suggested it to stop people going on about how "unfair" it all is.[/quote]
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#13 2017/11/09 12:46:38 |
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VALASI |
But I get the system has to be like that as the user base is small
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#14 2017/11/09 12:47:47 |
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