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IPHIOS |
Is the current top end weapon requirement intentional or not? ;o
Bluewave Axe +8% on esoma Pike +12% Snake Bite +16% Stinger +24% Hoarde Hands +27% Where all else is approximately 10% |
#1 2014/01/10 14:51:13 |
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NITE |
It was silly to add the 10% imo aswell. But ye it looks intentional, to keep players playing for longer...
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#2 2014/01/10 14:59:06 |
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KING |
"NITE"It was silly to add the 10% imo aswell. This. |
#3 2014/01/10 15:00:53 |
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IPHIOS |
The 10% never bothered me choosing sword at first - don't know how it affected others.
But the dex requirements for stinger and hoarde is a huge change. Only just noticed these %ages today - could all be old news discussed previously ;o |
#4 2014/01/10 15:07:01 |
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S0RCERER |
Seems that if you're going to go for Stinger, you better have been pure bow from the get-go else you'll find DEX pretty damn slow.
Would wager you'd have 200 bow skill before you reached the 105dex required. That said, keep in mind that if you did endure the slow at 100.0dex until 110.0dex, it "speeds up" at 110.0dex again, at least it feels faster (Can say this from testing on an increased rates server many times).
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Seems that if you're going to go for Stinger, you better have been pure bow from the get-go else you'll find DEX pretty damn slow.
Would wager you'd have 200 bow skill before you reached the 105dex required.
That said, keep in mind that if you did endure the slow at 100.0dex until 110.0dex, it "speeds up" at 110.0dex again, at least it feels faster (Can say this from testing on an increased rates server many times).[/quote]
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#5 2014/01/10 15:13:07 |
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IPHIOS |
105 dex is fine. Brutal ... but fine.
Just wondered why the varying percentages. The only thing I read was a blanket 10% for longevity. |
#6 2014/01/10 15:16:41 |
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S0RCERER |
"IPHIOS"105 dex is fine. Brutal ... but fine. For longevity it works, why Stinger & Hoarde Hands have a 20%+ higher req. is beyond me. 105dex is sure as hell going to be a target that's harder (read:longer) to reach than 107str (Blue Wave). For me, I've absolutely no targets left to reach, my top weapon is 99skill 100int... Back on Esoma there was a 135 Staff which would've been almost 150 here (149)
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="IPHIOS"]105 dex is fine. Brutal ... but fine.
Just wondered why the varying percentages. The only thing I read was a blanket 10% for longevity.[/quote]
For longevity it works, why Stinger & Hoarde Hands have a 20%+ higher req. is beyond me.
105dex is sure as hell going to be a target that's harder (read:longer) to reach than 107str (Blue Wave).
For me, I've absolutely no targets left to reach, my top weapon is 99skill 100int...
Back on Esoma there was a 135 Staff which would've been almost 150 here (149)[/quote]
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#7 2014/01/10 16:07:01 |
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GILGAMESH |
"S0RCERER"Seems that if you're going to go for Stinger, you better have been pure bow from the get-go else you'll find DEX pretty damn slow. I know this is true, because i've experienced the same myself. However, the rates are constant after 100 so any idea why this is the case?
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[quote="GILGAMESH"][quote="S0RCERER"]Seems that if you're going to go for Stinger, you better have been pure bow from the get-go else you'll find DEX pretty damn slow.
Would wager you'd have 200 bow skill before you reached the 105dex required.
That said, keep in mind that if you did endure the slow at 100.0dex until 110.0dex, it "speeds up" at 110.0dex again, at least it feels faster (Can say this from testing on an increased rates server many times).[/quote]
I know this is true, because i've experienced the same myself. However, the rates are constant after 100 so any idea why this is the case?
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#8 2014/01/10 16:55:45 |
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FUJITORA |
Tthe dex reqs for stinger and HH are pretty ludicrous atm in comparison to the reqs for the str weps.
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#9 2014/01/10 17:04:25 |
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S0RCERER |
"GILGAMESH"I know this is true, because i've experienced the same myself. However, the rates are constant after 100 so any idea why this is the case? As STR increases, you deal more damage, you kill monsters faster - As DEX stops slowing down, the rate at which you gain DEX will speed up due to increased damage output. The "speed bump" at 100dex puts most people off surpassing it though, personally it's well worth gritting your teeth and getting on with it - same situation with me over on Dsoma where I'm gaining less than .5str/dex/con each level, eventually that will "speed up" again as I reach their last slowdowns.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="GILGAMESH"]I know this is true, because i've experienced the same myself. However, the rates are constant after 100 so any idea why this is the case?[/quote]
As STR increases, you deal more damage, you kill monsters faster -
As DEX stops slowing down, the rate at which you gain DEX will speed up due to increased damage output.
The "speed bump" at 100dex puts most people off surpassing it though, personally it's well worth gritting your teeth and getting on with it - same situation with me over on Dsoma where I'm gaining less than .5str/dex/con each level, eventually that will "speed up" again as I reach their last slowdowns.[/quote]
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#10 2014/01/10 17:21:32 |
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GANDALF |
where did you get these %'s from
stinger was always 96 dex 10% of 96 is 9.6 96+9.6 = 105.6 thus 105 is 10%... /gandalf |
#11 2014/01/10 18:37:54 |
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IPHIOS |
Stinger bow was 84 dex with hoarde hands being 80.
Crit pen was 92 |
#12 2014/01/10 19:12:12 |
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FUJITORA |
http://web.archive.org/web/20071010054129/http://www.utopianguard.co.uk/?Page=25
Shows Stinger at 84 dex, as well as the ingame helpfile. http://web.archive.org/web/20071010055807/http://www.utopianguard.co.uk/?Page=26 Shows Hoarde Hands at 80 dex, as well as the ingame helpfile. Which at 10% would make their reqs 92.4 dex and 88 dex to equip respectively, which seems reasonable on top of the 85 / 77 reqs for apus / rap. Just like to point out due to the immense nature of slows at 95 / 100, nobody will be getting either of these weapons any time soon, so i think they should be reduced appropriately. I don't use bow or knuk so i have nothing to gain from either req being lowered.
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[quote="FUJITORA"]http://web.archive.org/web/20071010054129/http://www.utopianguard.co.uk/?Page=25
Shows Stinger at 84 dex, as well as the ingame helpfile.
http://web.archive.org/web/20071010055807/http://www.utopianguard.co.uk/?Page=26
Shows Hoarde Hands at 80 dex, as well as the ingame helpfile.
Which at 10% would make their reqs 92.4 dex and 88 dex to equip respectively, which seems reasonable on top of the 85 / 77 reqs for apus / rap. Just like to point out due to the immense nature of slows at 95 / 100, nobody will be getting either of these weapons any time soon, so i think they should be reduced appropriately.
I don't use bow or knuk so i have nothing to gain from either req being lowered.[/quote]
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#13 2014/01/10 19:27:11 |
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KING |
Would be disappointing if the intent was longevity. Could just throw in additional content when more players edge towards the requirements.
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#14 2014/01/10 19:37:44 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
If i recall we did trial it at 20% perhaps this is an overhead from that.
Thoughts on switching stinger to 93 dex requirement and hoarde hands to 88 dex? |
#15 2014/01/11 08:04:24 |
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