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SVANHILD |
"S0RCER3R"Don't mind losing it. We do love a raid ^^ |
#16 2014/01/15 20:13:51 |
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QUIMM |
"JARAGOONDOO"Thanks to those humans who always turn up. You're welcome. |
#17 2014/01/15 20:44:48 |
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NITROSTEALTH |
"QUIMM""JARAGOONDOO"Thanks to those humans who always turn up. |
#18 2014/01/15 21:13:02 |
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ASBJORN |
Your welcome jara, funnily enough on that % i gained more pos than any ive attended before but that may be because like tonight i just run in like a idiot for the crack of it :) #propsToFuji :P
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#19 2014/01/15 21:31:14 |
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NEOXIAN |
Fujitora deserves no credit unfortunately asbjorn. He got his fortune pouches and is now -2k so has nothing to lose. It doesn't make up for the last 3 months of safe zone hugging while waiting for teams of lowbies to weaken for him to pop out for 2 db's then back to safety even tho he takes practically no damage.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]Fujitora deserves no credit unfortunately asbjorn. He got his fortune pouches and is now -2k so has nothing to lose. It doesn't make up for the last 3 months of safe zone hugging while waiting for teams of lowbies to weaken for him to pop out for 2 db's then back to safety even tho he takes practically no damage. [/quote]
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#20 2014/01/15 22:44:45 |
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SHATTERSTAR |
"NEOXIAN"Fujitora deserves no credit unfortunately asbjorn. He got his fortune pouches and is now -2k so has nothing to lose. It doesn't make up for the last 3 months of safe zone hugging while waiting for teams of lowbies to weaken for him to pop out for 2 db's then back to safety even tho he takes practically no damage. You're a bundle of joy aren't you.
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[quote="SHATTERSTAR"][quote="NEOXIAN"]Fujitora deserves no credit unfortunately asbjorn. He got his fortune pouches and is now -2k so has nothing to lose. It doesn't make up for the last 3 months of safe zone hugging while waiting for teams of lowbies to weaken for him to pop out for 2 db's then back to safety even tho he takes practically no damage. [/quote]
You're a bundle of joy aren't you.[/quote]
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#21 2014/01/15 22:46:07 |
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GHOSTLORD |
"NEOXIAN"Fujitora deserves no credit unfortunately asbjorn. He got his fortune pouches and is now -2k so has nothing to lose. It doesn't make up for the last 3 months of safe zone hugging while waiting for teams of lowbies to weaken for him to pop out for 2 db's then back to safety even tho he takes practically no damage. Fujitora has always gone to WoW.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="NEOXIAN"]Fujitora deserves no credit unfortunately asbjorn. He got his fortune pouches and is now -2k so has nothing to lose. It doesn't make up for the last 3 months of safe zone hugging while waiting for teams of lowbies to weaken for him to pop out for 2 db's then back to safety even tho he takes practically no damage. [/quote]
Fujitora has always gone to WoW.[/quote]
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#22 2014/01/15 22:51:53 |
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FUJITORA |
"NEOXIAN"Fujitora deserves no credit unfortunately asbjorn. He got his fortune pouches and is now -2k so has nothing to lose. It doesn't make up for the last 3 months of safe zone hugging while waiting for teams of lowbies to weaken for him to pop out for 2 db's then back to safety even tho he takes practically no damage. At no point do i have any team of lowbies going around specifically weakening for me, i just hit whoever seems to be getting hit by the majority of humans. Not my problem if i have/had more int/gear than the majority of humans and end up getting most of the killing blows ^_^
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[quote="FUJITORA"][quote="NEOXIAN"]Fujitora deserves no credit unfortunately asbjorn. He got his fortune pouches and is now -2k so has nothing to lose. It doesn't make up for the last 3 months of safe zone hugging while waiting for teams of lowbies to weaken for him to pop out for 2 db's then back to safety even tho he takes practically no damage. [/quote]
At no point do i have any team of lowbies going around specifically weakening for me, i just hit whoever seems to be getting hit by the majority of humans. Not my problem if i have/had more int/gear than the majority of humans and end up getting most of the killing blows ^_^[/quote]
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#23 2014/01/15 23:09:47 |
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ASBJORN |
Ah neo i was being sarcastic with the has tag ;) i actually found it pretty stupid that a shout was singled out to one human where as most devils know eq turn up every week also . All that shout really said was that i should feel guilty for having a job that has early and night shifts which force me to attend every other week the fight outside the throne room however was good fun the last ten mins or so . Maybe should have watched that instead of the empty throne room :)
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[quote="ASBJORN"]Ah neo i was being sarcastic with the has tag ;) i actually found it pretty stupid that a shout was singled out to one human where as most devils know eq turn up every week also . All that shout really said was that i should feel guilty for having a job that has early and night shifts which force me to attend every other week the fight outside the throne room however was good fun the last ten mins or so . Maybe should have watched that instead of the empty throne room :) [/quote]
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#24 2014/01/15 23:13:52 |
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GHOSTLORD |
"ASBJORN"Ah neo i was being sarcastic with the has tag ;) i actually found it pretty stupid that a shout was singled out to one human where as most devils know eq turn up every week also . All that shout really said was that i should feel guilty for having a job that has early and night shifts which force me to attend every other week the fight outside the throne room however was good fun the last ten mins or so . Maybe should have watched that instead of the empty throne room :) I didn't see EQ at the throne room last night. I've ONLY seen Fujitora there. He might have have -2k pos but I was annoyed enough at the lack of humans to give him props.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="ASBJORN"]Ah neo i was being sarcastic with the has tag ;) i actually found it pretty stupid that a shout was singled out to one human where as most devils know eq turn up every week also . All that shout really said was that i should feel guilty for having a job that has early and night shifts which force me to attend every other week the fight outside the throne room however was good fun the last ten mins or so . Maybe should have watched that instead of the empty throne room :) [/quote]
I didn't see EQ at the throne room last night. I've ONLY seen Fujitora there. He might have have -2k pos but I was annoyed enough at the lack of humans to give him props.[/quote]
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#25 2014/01/16 11:35:24 |
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ASBJORN |
Well all eq were outside the throne room fighting devils maybe that's why? But your right it would be nice to see more of the others guilds that have full rosters like the Chinese guild , then maybe arcanix and slyver and dark legacy instead of the normal: us tolic sylverangel , linkdx malefic and fuji ( sorry if i missed one or two ) there's so many humans compared to devils that's it shame they outnumber us at a contested event .
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[quote="ASBJORN"]Well all eq were outside the throne room fighting devils maybe that's why? But your right it would be nice to see more of the others guilds that have full rosters like the Chinese guild , then maybe arcanix and slyver and dark legacy instead of the normal: us tolic sylverangel , linkdx malefic and fuji ( sorry if i missed one or two ) there's so many humans compared to devils that's it shame they outnumber us at a contested event . [/quote]
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#26 2014/01/16 15:06:43 |
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CARNAGE |
Props to the usual lot of humans for always turning up and not disappearing under a rock much like myself even when it's a complete car crash of a war.
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#27 2014/01/16 15:12:31 |
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BELKA |
"CARNAGE"Props to the usual lot of humans for always turning up and not disappearing under a rock much like myself even when it's a complete car crash of a war. What is the motivation for turning up on the 3rd defence? That applies to both humans and devils - nobody can be bothered when the %s are off and they are at a huge disadvantage. The other issue is that the top level humans don't need conti anymore. 1) The top 5-10 hunt at BLGs now. 2) BLGs give better drops and stats than anything in conti. 3) LB's aren't the major reason for them going now that they mostly have epic 120 skill weapons and only want Pammy ones. 4) No INT mobs above wraiths (70 int max) in conti. Without the rewards they aren't forced to go, and RvR from the perspective of even a top level human is not even close to gvw for fun or importance. Especially when the % is so low. Either: 1) Adding a BLg spawn to conti 2) Adding a 1-2 day spawning Pammoth to conti or 3) Increasing Drazil's dropfile and stats Would make human attendance much much higher at all wars.
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[quote="BELKA"][quote="CARNAGE"]Props to the usual lot of humans for always turning up and not disappearing under a rock much like myself even when it's a complete car crash of a war.[/quote]
What is the motivation for turning up on the 3rd defence? That applies to both humans and devils - nobody can be bothered when the %s are off and they are at a huge disadvantage.
The other issue is that the top level humans don't need conti anymore.
1) The top 5-10 hunt at BLGs now.
2) BLGs give better drops and stats than anything in conti.
3) LB's aren't the major reason for them going now that they mostly have epic 120 skill weapons and only want Pammy ones.
4) No INT mobs above wraiths (70 int max) in conti.
Without the rewards they aren't forced to go, and RvR from the perspective of even a top level human is not even close to gvw for fun or importance. Especially when the % is so low.
Either:
1) Adding a BLg spawn to conti
2) Adding a 1-2 day spawning Pammoth to conti
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3) Increasing Drazil's dropfile and stats
Would make human attendance much much higher at all wars.
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#28 2014/01/18 04:03:59 |
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S0RCERER |
"BELKA"Especially when the % is so low. I agree with the rest of your post, but this exert is false. How can % be 'so low' at 65, when a human with 100~110int can drop a devil in 3 hits, exactly the same as at 60%. As was evident by last war, anyone with perfect defence was still able to tank every devil attendant before being forced to warp (or die) as a result of pot-rinse. The difficulty at wotw for Humans is the perception that they are weak... Your average level 60~65 human can easily go toe to toe with a devil of equal level and there are far more humans than there are devils. I firmly believe the problem (sorry archers!) are Dsoma Archers and the fact that despite not doing as much damage as other devils, can completely shut out a human, who uses INT as their tool to land kills. Despite this, when humans do turn up in force, without Dsoma Archers, we're not going to kill anything. V.few devils are as mad as Carn to run into the whole group of humans.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="BELKA"]Especially when the % is so low.[/quote]
I agree with the rest of your post, but this exert is false.
How can % be 'so low' at 65, when a human with 100~110int can drop a devil in 3 hits, exactly the same as at 60%.
As was evident by last war, anyone with perfect defence was still able to tank every devil attendant before being forced to warp (or die) as a result of pot-rinse.
The difficulty at wotw for Humans is the perception that they are weak...
Your average level 60~65 human can easily go toe to toe with a devil of equal level and there are far more humans than there are devils.
I firmly believe the problem (sorry archers!) are Dsoma Archers and the fact that despite not doing as much damage as other devils, can completely shut out a human, who uses INT as their tool to land kills.
Despite this, when humans do turn up in force, without Dsoma Archers, we're not going to kill anything.
V.few devils are as mad as Carn to run into the whole group of humans.[/quote]
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#29 2014/01/18 10:47:43 |
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BELKA |
"S0RCERER" That is exactly what I was going to write after I read your previous paragraph. From my view and experience, I don't want to go to a war where Humans are weaker than usual purely because of the huge number of archers on the devil's side. There is one other issue too, and that is that even if the % is decent, devil hp, tagged armor values, and bagweight means that they are only going to die to a big human magic gangbang - not to a bow or a spear. Not every human is a glass cannon mage-focussed character, and for those that aren't war is a very different experience.
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[quote="BELKA"][quote="S0RCERER"]
I firmly believe the problem (sorry archers!) are Dsoma Archers and the fact that despite not doing as much damage as other devils, can completely shut out a human, who uses INT as their tool to land kills.[/quote]
That is exactly what I was going to write after I read your previous paragraph.
From my view and experience, I don't want to go to a war where Humans are weaker than usual purely because of the huge number of archers on the devil's side.
There is one other issue too, and that is that even if the % is decent, devil hp, tagged armor values, and bagweight means that they are only going to die to a big human magic gangbang - not to a bow or a spear. Not every human is a glass cannon mage-focussed character, and for those that aren't war is a very different experience.[/quote]
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#30 2014/01/18 11:17:03 |
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