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"MICKYC"would be very interesting to know how many active devs and how many active humans there are - ignoring stores and the like...................


Yeah that's what I was getting at micky. There is a lot more devs these days. Even tho the user count was at 200 + the other day there must have been 30+ Level 1 chars punching elves. And that's not counting the ones hiding in houses. Would be nice to know for both races how many active ( say 15 hours a week+ ) chars there are
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[quote="MAVERICK"][quote="MICKYC"]would be very interesting to know how many active devs and how many active humans there are - ignoring stores and the like...................[/quote] Yeah that's what I was getting at micky. There is a lot more devs these days. Even tho the user count was at 200 + the other day there must have been 30+ Level 1 chars punching elves. And that's not counting the ones hiding in houses. Would be nice to know for both races how many active ( say 15 hours a week+ ) chars there are [/quote]
"CUPID"
"STRELKA"
"CUPID"still not enough incentive for hsoma to win wotw sadly :)

majority of hsoma can hunt in total peace in our lands. we gain nothing from hunting in conti only bit extra drop rate from mags?

also last time we owned conti. people who main hsoma logged on there dsoma chars and forced people away from mags and other spawns.. so we was forced to hunt in hsoma land anyway. so yer not enough incentive.


Are you serious lol?

10% faster exp means nothing to you guys? That's absolutely huge... especially given how slow humans level. None of the 101+ devil players will be using conti, but we very much want more exp per hour....


Yes I'm serious lol. Last time we owned conti. You guys just hunted us every few hours. Removed us from our farming spots.. Vikings guild belived this to be dark legacy sympathisers or DLS Devs chars . What is the point in Vikings guild turning up winning conti just so u Devs can come kill us over n over and we can't fight back.. or if we can u just warp and waste our time.. We can quite happily sit in hsoma land for hours and hours, farm and hunt with 0 interference lol.. so yes my statement stands there is no major insentive. There is no bonus for us to win conti. Who cares about the 10% gain.. wether it takes 1 month or 10 months to cap it doesn't matter in the end.

Please note I'm not argueing with u.. I'm stating valid and true facts :)

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[quote="CUPID"][quote="CUPID"][quote="STRELKA"][quote="CUPID"]still not enough incentive for hsoma to win wotw sadly :) majority of hsoma can hunt in total peace in our lands. we gain nothing from hunting in conti only bit extra drop rate from mags? also last time we owned conti. people who main hsoma logged on there dsoma chars and forced people away from mags and other spawns.. so we was forced to hunt in hsoma land anyway. so yer not enough incentive. [/quote] Are you serious lol? 10% faster exp means nothing to you guys? That's absolutely huge... especially given how slow humans level. None of the 101+ devil players will be using conti, but we very much want more exp per hour.... [/quote] Yes I'm serious lol. Last time we owned conti. You guys just hunted us every few hours. Removed us from our farming spots.. Vikings guild belived this to be dark legacy sympathisers or DLS Devs chars . What is the point in Vikings guild turning up winning conti just so u Devs can come kill us over n over and we can't fight back.. or if we can u just warp and waste our time.. We can quite happily sit in hsoma land for hours and hours, farm and hunt with 0 interference lol.. so yes my statement stands there is no major insentive. There is no bonus for us to win conti. Who cares about the 10% gain.. wether it takes 1 month or 10 months to cap it doesn't matter in the end. Please note I'm not argueing with u.. I'm stating valid and true facts :) [/quote]
There's no point in discusses balance if not enough people show up. As was the case here.

The difference? It's not who's OP and who's not. It seems devils want to fight at EVERY WoW and humans (except a bunch) only seem to turn up when they feel like it. This isn't a stab at anyone, it's always been like this also on the test server. It's like HSoma just doesn't seem to care as much about the PvP.

We can and will investigate seperating magic and melee percentages. Though I don't quite know how it would auto-adjust.

As for the elf punchers, let's not forget people run a bunch of clients at the same time. I don't think we should count those as usercount, hah.

I can safely say that both worlds are thriving. What would be great for WoW is a direct incentive for humans to come to conti. It feels asif secondary rewards such 10% leveling speed or farmable mobs aren't working well enough.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"]There's no point in discusses balance if not enough people show up. As was the case here. The difference? It's not who's OP and who's not. It seems devils want to fight at EVERY WoW and humans (except a bunch) only seem to turn up when they feel like it. This isn't a stab at anyone, it's always been like this also on the test server. It's like HSoma just doesn't seem to care as much about the PvP. We can and will investigate seperating magic and melee percentages. Though I don't quite know how it would auto-adjust. As for the elf punchers, let's not forget people run a bunch of clients at the same time. I don't think we should count those as usercount, hah. I can safely say that both worlds are thriving. What would be great for WoW is a direct incentive for humans to come to conti. It feels asif secondary rewards such 10% leveling speed or farmable mobs aren't working well enough. [/quote]
what about 10% boost and maybe a boost in drops to whoever owns conti?
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[quote="BRAINSTORM"]what about 10% boost and maybe a boost in drops to whoever owns conti?[/quote]
"BRAINSTORM"what about 10% boost and maybe a boost in drops to whoever owns conti?


There is a 10% increase to exp to the race that owns conti ?

Mags on conti have a higher droprate than vod

Think the only thing that needs adding to conti is the new mobs with a slight drop increase

Maybe feather range needs increasing so they can be used to escape rather than for pvp

Have opersite race apear on the mini map also when there not on the own maps
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[quote="KASUMI12"][quote="BRAINSTORM"]what about 10% boost and maybe a boost in drops to whoever owns conti?[/quote] There is a 10% increase to exp to the race that owns conti ? Mags on conti have a higher droprate than vod Think the only thing that needs adding to conti is the new mobs with a slight drop increase Maybe feather range needs increasing so they can be used to escape rather than for pvp Have opersite race apear on the mini map also when there not on the own maps[/quote]
I gave up with wotw a long time ago.

Devils when it comes to RvR are to powerful, and upgrades have helped.

On my mage char I can never cast when a devil comes to conti, so no point I may as well just go back to vod or abias and level.

On my melee char I don’t do enough damage or hit enough while at the same time I get hit for constant damage.

It really does just feel meh.

Point proved by time 6 raiding, devils seem to live for raiding vod and get a real kick out of it, how many humans raid infernal caves?

I just don’t see any point in conti.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]I gave up with wotw a long time ago. Devils when it comes to RvR are to powerful, and upgrades have helped. On my mage char I can never cast when a devil comes to conti, so no point I may as well just go back to vod or abias and level. On my melee char I don’t do enough damage or hit enough while at the same time I get hit for constant damage. It really does just feel meh. Point proved by time 6 raiding, devils seem to live for raiding vod and get a real kick out of it, how many humans raid infernal caves? I just don’t see any point in conti.[/quote]
Dsoma was designed to be always moral powerfully that humans. But that was with stats and sheer strength. The introduction to dsoma upgrades has made them even more Powerful, power they were never designed to have.it defo needs a rework. Like I said tho. If us humans have 0 chance to fight back whilst hunting in conti there is no point us going there. As it's a waste of our time lol.
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[quote="CUPID"]Dsoma was designed to be always moral powerfully that humans. But that was with stats and sheer strength. The introduction to dsoma upgrades has made them even more Powerful, power they were never designed to have.it defo needs a rework. Like I said tho. If us humans have 0 chance to fight back whilst hunting in conti there is no point us going there. As it's a waste of our time lol. [/quote]
How about if 1 race has Conti, the other race can only go at certain times for raids, like when the portal opens to VOD and IC now?
Maybe even 2/3 times a day?
There would still be action as humans would forget the time and get ambushed as they currently do in VOD.

Also have more top end mobs in Conti as well as Mags as has been suggested?
Atm Devs know that most players are at Mags so just go directly there. Humans are easiily found.
High levels are at Mags and lower levels are mostly at LB.
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[quote="BUFFY"]How about if 1 race has Conti, the other race can only go at certain times for raids, like when the portal opens to VOD and IC now? Maybe even 2/3 times a day? There would still be action as humans would forget the time and get ambushed as they currently do in VOD. Also have more top end mobs in Conti as well as Mags as has been suggested? Atm Devs know that most players are at Mags so just go directly there. Humans are easiily found. High levels are at Mags and lower levels are mostly at LB.[/quote]
"KASUMI12"
"BRAINSTORM"what about 10% boost and maybe a boost in drops to whoever owns conti?


There is a 10% increase to exp to the race that owns conti ?

Mags on conti have a higher droprate than vod

Think the only thing that needs adding to conti is the new mobs with a slight drop increase

Maybe feather range needs increasing so they can be used to escape rather than for pvp

Have opersite race apear on the mini map also when there not on the own maps


was figure of speech lol and all mobs in conti have higher drop rates then there normal ones :P


i agree new mobs should be put on conti but i don't think there is any room lol
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[quote="BRAINSTORM"][quote="KASUMI12"][quote="BRAINSTORM"]what about 10% boost and maybe a boost in drops to whoever owns conti?[/quote] There is a 10% increase to exp to the race that owns conti ? Mags on conti have a higher droprate than vod Think the only thing that needs adding to conti is the new mobs with a slight drop increase Maybe feather range needs increasing so they can be used to escape rather than for pvp Have opersite race apear on the mini map also when there not on the own maps[/quote] was figure of speech lol and all mobs in conti have higher drop rates then there normal ones :P i agree new mobs should be put on conti but i don't think there is any room lol [/quote]
until a method of allowing human melee to do some damage I can see little point in going just to donate my POS
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[quote="MICKYC"]until a method of allowing human melee to do some damage I can see little point in going just to donate my POS[/quote]
I agree with Micky. Not everyone who plays a human wants to be a mage.

Besides, it’s kinda hard to actually get a cast off when archers don’t miss
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[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]I agree with Micky. Not everyone who plays a human wants to be a mage. Besides, it’s kinda hard to actually get a cast off when archers don’t miss [/quote]
If humans got a 4th staff aura, same as devils (where they’re not interrupted for a set amount of time) that would stop a lot of the complaints imho
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[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]If humans got a 4th staff aura, same as devils (where they’re not interrupted for a set amount of time) that would stop a lot of the complaints imho [/quote]
"GHOSTLORD"There's no point in discusses balance if not enough people show up. As was the case here.



Enough said

All of you saying hard to get a cast of etc with dsoma archer blah blah ..... you know how hard it would be for us to stop humans casting etc if more of you turned up?

Think about it lol.

I'm sure i saw more humans at your last GV than ive ever seen at a wotw ;p
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[quote="BL00D_SHOT"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]There's no point in discusses balance if not enough people show up. As was the case here. [/quote] Enough said All of you saying hard to get a cast of etc with dsoma archer blah blah ..... you know how hard it would be for us to stop humans casting etc if more of you turned up? Think about it lol. I'm sure i saw more humans at your last GV than ive ever seen at a wotw ;p[/quote]
As an uncapped player conti would be really useful for me. However if I go to WOTW I will get 2/3hit and do basically no damage so don't really have a say in the outcome.

The war is for capped players and atm for capped hsoma players there is no real incentive to win it so I can see why not many people bother turning up.

Maybe make it so devils cant enter the crafting room? That would be a nice bonus.

How about some conti quests with great rewards like the gspider titan armor quest?

I like the idea of upping the drops for conti mobs a bit as well.

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[quote="HOGAN"]As an uncapped player conti would be really useful for me. However if I go to WOTW I will get 2/3hit and do basically no damage so don't really have a say in the outcome. The war is for capped players and atm for capped hsoma players there is no real incentive to win it so I can see why not many people bother turning up. Maybe make it so devils cant enter the crafting room? That would be a nice bonus. How about some conti quests with great rewards like the gspider titan armor quest? I like the idea of upping the drops for conti mobs a bit as well. [/quote]
"BL00D_SHOT"
"GHOSTLORD"There's no point in discusses balance if not enough people show up. As was the case here.



Enough said

All of you saying hard to get a cast of etc with dsoma archer blah blah ..... you know how hard it would be for us to stop humans casting etc if more of you turned up?

Think about it lol.

I'm sure i saw more humans at your last GV than ive ever seen at a wotw ;p


I can see the arguments on both sides. But devils were made string because humans massively outnumbered. That's not the case anymore, yes we still outnumber you. But not to the point where you need 60 more dex and 40 more str than our best humans. Also you have upgrades now which has given dsoma a huge boost. Even when it was getting pretty close in wars. Not long from now you will all be running round in acc gear Eva gear. A+ Speed weps.


Saying that. If humans actually co-ordinated we could possibly stand a chance. So many capped players arnt interested or just hang in town. Would be good for some leaders of vk , dl, arc, nm and other top guilds to arrange a discord channel for rvr.
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[quote="MAVERICK"][quote="BL00D_SHOT"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]There's no point in discusses balance if not enough people show up. As was the case here. [/quote] Enough said All of you saying hard to get a cast of etc with dsoma archer blah blah ..... you know how hard it would be for us to stop humans casting etc if more of you turned up? Think about it lol. I'm sure i saw more humans at your last GV than ive ever seen at a wotw ;p[/quote] I can see the arguments on both sides. But devils were made string because humans massively outnumbered. That's not the case anymore, yes we still outnumber you. But not to the point where you need 60 more dex and 40 more str than our best humans. Also you have upgrades now which has given dsoma a huge boost. Even when it was getting pretty close in wars. Not long from now you will all be running round in acc gear Eva gear. A+ Speed weps. Saying that. If humans actually co-ordinated we could possibly stand a chance. So many capped players arnt interested or just hang in town. Would be good for some leaders of vk , dl, arc, nm and other top guilds to arrange a discord channel for rvr. [/quote]

 

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