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VALASI |
A lot of people have been saying that the best weps to use for stat gain is still bow and axe... is this still a fact or can it not be determined until someone can compare at lvl 110 cap? Basically wanted to know if other weps like sword, spear and knux are still pretty much redundant weapons to use while levelling dex/str as they seemed to have been pre-patch. My scenario being that I was hoping to cap str while getting a little bit of dex with sword - is this a waste of time?
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[quote="VALASI"]
A lot of people have been saying that the best weps to use for stat gain is still bow and axe... is this still a fact or can it not be determined until someone can compare at lvl 110 cap?
Basically wanted to know if other weps like sword, spear and knux are still pretty much redundant weapons to use while levelling dex/str as they seemed to have been pre-patch.
My scenario being that I was hoping to cap str while getting a little bit of dex with sword - is this a waste of time?
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#1 2017/12/20 12:16:32 |
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JAXS |
On the new mobs (the new mobs only) you gain dex at whatever rate regardless of your str
Old mobs are the same though, so if starting a new charector it’s still bow then axe. New mobs of the top of my head (cba checking) have 110 defensive dex. So say you did pure sword to 171 on the new mobs nothing is stopping you using a bow or knucks for a few levels to gain more dex. This is just my understanding and I may be wrong though
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[quote="JAXS"]On the new mobs (the new mobs only) you gain dex at whatever rate regardless of your str
Old mobs are the same though, so if starting a new charector it’s still bow then axe.
New mobs of the top of my head (cba checking) have 110 defensive dex. So say you did pure sword to 171 on the new mobs nothing is stopping you using a bow or knucks for a few levels to gain more dex.
This is just my understanding and I may be wrong though [/quote]
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#2 2017/12/20 14:00:50 |
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JAXS |
171 str*
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#3 2017/12/20 14:01:44 |
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BRADLEY_COLE |
i used knu is overpowerd on boars lol rape them in seconds could be due to my str and 2 hitter knu high attack but with bow i still rape them with all my attack gear on but best to do bow then then axe then int unless your a mage also knu gains are 2.0 dex and str 3.5 per level
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[quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]i used knu is overpowerd on boars lol rape them in seconds could be due to my str and 2 hitter knu high attack but with bow i still rape them with all my attack gear on but best to do bow then then axe then int unless your a mage also knu gains are 2.0 dex and str 3.5 per level [/quote]
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#4 2017/12/20 14:17:00 |
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VALASI |
"BRADLEY_COLE"i used knu is overpowerd on boars lol rape them in seconds could be due to my str and 2 hitter knu high attack but with bow i still rape them with all my attack gear on but best to do bow then then axe then int unless your a mage also knu gains are 2.0 dex and str 3.5 per level Are them dex/str rates for knuck noticeably better than when you were doing it at BLG before patch? If you remember. In other words, do you think dex is a better rate compared to str now on new mobs, rather than it depending on what your str is? In which case, the theory of using sword for stats is now a viable option in new mobs compared to what people are saying
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[quote="VALASI"][quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]i used knu is overpowerd on boars lol rape them in seconds could be due to my str and 2 hitter knu high attack but with bow i still rape them with all my attack gear on but best to do bow then then axe then int unless your a mage also knu gains are 2.0 dex and str 3.5 per level [/quote]
Are them dex/str rates for knuck noticeably better than when you were doing it at BLG before patch? If you remember.
In other words, do you think dex is a better rate compared to str now on new mobs, rather than it depending on what your str is?
In which case, the theory of using sword for stats is now a viable option in new mobs compared to what people are saying
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#5 2017/12/20 14:50:30 |
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FLICKTHEBEAN |
Optimum build is Bow to 156str, axe to 171str, and from there you can do whatever you like. <- Has the least wasted exp and makes use of the mob bonuses for the hardest stat, dex.
Older characters who already pushed str to 171 can choose their build type freely. Edit: After much debating through skype, I have been given evidence that the 1.0x bonus loss on blg happens at 151. So 151-171 should be done with axe for optimal. I was working with these numbers; Str: > 50 x1.7 and 2.0 >= 30 x1.4 and x1.7 >=10 x1.2 and x1.5 >= -10 x1.0 >= -15 x0.8 >= -30 x0.5 <= -31 x0.0 (Cap) Which are seemingly not as clear as i thought. Matthew provided information, through Mitchy. - thanks for clearing it up, only the screenie of PM from fin convinced me though. :P
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[quote="FLICKTHEBEAN"]Optimum build is Bow to 156str, axe to 171str, and from there you can do whatever you like. <- Has the least wasted exp and makes use of the mob bonuses for the hardest stat, dex.
Older characters who already pushed str to 171 can choose their build type freely.
Edit: After much debating through skype, I have been given evidence that the 1.0x bonus loss on blg happens at 151. So 151-171 should be done with axe for optimal.
I was working with these numbers;
Str:
> 50 x1.7 and 2.0
>= 30 x1.4 and x1.7
>=10 x1.2 and x1.5
>= -10 x1.0
>= -15 x0.8
>= -30 x0.5
<= -31 x0.0 (Cap)
Which are seemingly not as clear as i thought.
Matthew provided information, through Mitchy. - thanks for clearing it up, only the screenie of PM from fin convinced me though. :P[/quote]
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#6 2017/12/20 15:05:24 |
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DIOS |
Wouldn’t it make sense to increase DEX+STR gained for all classes apart from bow/axe to stop the bow/axe strategy? Generally concerned I can’t go pure knuckle to 110 and being non competitive against other builds....u
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#7 2017/12/20 15:29:53 |
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VALASI |
Yeh, that's what I was concerned about. Don't want to do something that I want to (sword) to realise I've wasted a load of exp and got worse stats than someone who did the axe/bow regime ha.
Sounds like I can push forward with what I want now at no consequence! :D
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[quote="VALASI"]Yeh, that's what I was concerned about. Don't want to do something that I want to (sword) to realise I've wasted a load of exp and got worse stats than someone who did the axe/bow regime ha.
Sounds like I can push forward with what I want now at no consequence! :D[/quote]
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#8 2017/12/20 15:51:24 |
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ALEXISONFIRE |
Cheers for them stats for knucks Brad :)
So half way through level 98 12.5 levels to go (if we get to do level 110 99.99%) 171 str 110.5 dex So if I pure knucks will cap str again at level level 105 with 124.5 Dex Or am I being rubbish at maths? Lol |
#9 2017/12/20 16:40:43 |
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VALASI |
"FLICKTHEBEAN"Optimum build is Bow to 156str, axe to 171str, and from there you can do whatever you like. <- Has the least wasted exp and makes use of the mob bonuses for the hardest stat, dex. Great to know. Thanks flick!
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[quote="VALASI"][quote="FLICKTHEBEAN"]Optimum build is Bow to 156str, axe to 171str, and from there you can do whatever you like. <- Has the least wasted exp and makes use of the mob bonuses for the hardest stat, dex.
Older characters who already pushed str to 171 can choose their build type freely.
Edit: After much debating through skype, I have been given evidence that the 1.0x bonus loss on blg happens at 151. So 151-171 should be done with axe for optimal.
I was working with these numbers;
Str:
> 50 x1.7 and 2.0
>= 30 x1.4 and x1.7
>=10 x1.2 and x1.5
>= -10 x1.0
>= -15 x0.8
>= -30 x0.5
<= -31 x0.0 (Cap)
Which are seemingly not as clear as i thought.
Matthew provided information, through Mitchy. - thanks for clearing it up, only the screenie of PM from fin convinced me though. :P[/quote]
Great to know. Thanks flick! [/quote]
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#10 2017/12/20 16:50:25 |
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VALASI |
#11 2017/12/20 17:01:12 |
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