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I think zombie needs looking at / tweaking, given the amount of damage people can put out right now is pretty insane, you can secure a kill without zombie pretty easily as mages with proc and archers with straight up fast bows, I think zombie needs to be either 50% or something similar when using pots. Healing can stay the same of 100% but I just think from the world pvp iv seen, a lot of people are dying without it which when a zombie is thrown on a character it basically means curtains.

Maybe worth a discussion?
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[quote="JPOT"]I think zombie needs looking at / tweaking, given the amount of damage people can put out right now is pretty insane, you can secure a kill without zombie pretty easily as mages with proc and archers with straight up fast bows, I think zombie needs to be either 50% or something similar when using pots. Healing can stay the same of 100% but I just think from the world pvp iv seen, a lot of people are dying without it which when a zombie is thrown on a character it basically means curtains. Maybe worth a discussion?[/quote]
that's not my experience.

at gvw the tank chars front up and pot away unmolested until zombie comes into play.
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[quote="TYPHIN"]that's not my experience. at gvw the tank chars front up and pot away unmolested until zombie comes into play.[/quote]
"TYPHIN"that's not my experience.

at gvw the tank chars front up and pot away unmolested until zombie comes into play.


If you read my post there is no comment about GV, as i don't really care for any change in there.
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[quote="JPOT"][quote="TYPHIN"]that's not my experience. at gvw the tank chars front up and pot away unmolested until zombie comes into play.[/quote] If you read my post there is no comment about GV, as i don't really care for any change in there.[/quote]
i read your post. do you not know how a change in one affects the other?
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[quote="TYPHIN"]i read your post. do you not know how a change in one affects the other?[/quote]
Damage out put now is much higher. I think Zombie should be changed to HP pots not working rather then doing damage.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Damage out put now is much higher. I think Zombie should be changed to HP pots not working rather then doing damage.[/quote]
Change zombie and everyone who spent hours n hours farming matts for it will just quit. Cos I assure u I'm done if they remove or change zombie. Just my opinion and input for u :).
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[quote="CUPID"]Change zombie and everyone who spent hours n hours farming matts for it will just quit. Cos I assure u I'm done if they remove or change zombie. Just my opinion and input for u :). [/quote]
"CUPID"Change zombie and everyone who spent hours n hours farming matts for it will just quit. Cos I assure u I'm done if they remove or change zombie. Just my opinion and input for u :).


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[quote="THEMAT"][quote="CUPID"]Change zombie and everyone who spent hours n hours farming matts for it will just quit. Cos I assure u I'm done if they remove or change zombie. Just my opinion and input for u :). [/quote] [img]https://i.imgur.com/OJ7iaHX.jpg[/img][/quote]
"CUPID"Change zombie and everyone who spent hours n hours farming matts for it will just quit. Cos I assure u I'm done if they remove or change zombie. Just my opinion and input for u :).


spoken to guys that have ground alot more than you buddy and they think the same, open world pvp zombie is kinda too strong right now, just needs tweaking.
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[quote="JPOT"][quote="CUPID"]Change zombie and everyone who spent hours n hours farming matts for it will just quit. Cos I assure u I'm done if they remove or change zombie. Just my opinion and input for u :). [/quote] spoken to guys that have ground alot more than you buddy and they think the same, open world pvp zombie is kinda too strong right now, just needs tweaking. [/quote]
"CUPID"Change zombie and everyone who spent hours n hours farming matts for it will just quit. Cos I assure u I'm done if they remove or change zombie. Just my opinion and input for u :).


Zombies been about for years and it does need looking at unless overall DF is massively changed with the new accessories etc. Otherwise pvp is just turning into mindless click lock + spamming where people are just Insta dropping everywhere

next you'll be saying we should take away K/D's -_-
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[quote="PIKUTIN"][quote="CUPID"]Change zombie and everyone who spent hours n hours farming matts for it will just quit. Cos I assure u I'm done if they remove or change zombie. Just my opinion and input for u :). [/quote] Zombies been about for years and it does need looking at unless overall DF is massively changed with the new accessories etc. Otherwise pvp is just turning into mindless click lock + spamming where people are just Insta dropping everywhere next you'll be saying we should take away K/D's -_-[/quote]
Zombie does need looking at. You’ve got archers who would usually wear zombie pants running round weakening for a mage. Mages nor archers use it as a first resort anymore with the DPS being so high. I think reduce the hp taken by half and it’s a good start to see how it works.
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[quote="RAGNA"]Zombie does need looking at. You’ve got archers who would usually wear zombie pants running round weakening for a mage. Mages nor archers use it as a first resort anymore with the DPS being so high. I think reduce the hp taken by half and it’s a good start to see how it works.[/quote]
Imo zombie should stop you using hp pots, it would make it sense and it would be on par with dispel.
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[quote="LINKDX"]Imo zombie should stop you using hp pots, it would make it sense and it would be on par with dispel.[/quote]
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[quote="PURIEL"]+1 link[/quote]
I agree zombie is overpowered

When your tanking and potting and then a zombie procs the dmg from your own heal pots is basicly ko, that's even if u survive and serum, the dmg is done and pot delay all equals death

Think 50% dmg of the pot used would be a good place to start

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[quote="JAHEIRA"]I agree zombie is overpowered When your tanking and potting and then a zombie procs the dmg from your own heal pots is basicly ko, that's even if u survive and serum, the dmg is done and pot delay all equals death Think 50% dmg of the pot used would be a good place to start [/quote]
yea i agree with everything jpot said the dmg in both worlds is insane nowdays zombie needs a nerf right now
stone+zombie is pretty much a 100% death stopping u from potting is a fair trade tbh
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[quote="MANTICORE"]yea i agree with everything jpot said the dmg in both worlds is insane nowdays zombie needs a nerf right now stone+zombie is pretty much a 100% death stopping u from potting is a fair trade tbh[/quote]
I dont think its overpowered at all, i mean do you guys truly want your pvp to become pot wars where you must empty their bag of sesame seed cakes/whistles? Only for them to run or tp and then your own pots are low meaning you lose to the next opponent because you dont have the same "extended hp" via pots. You need to be able to burst someone down or exceed pot speed but only with good gear over the opponent.

I think largely it comes down to overzealous smashing of f1-f4 or pot macros rather than calculated and efficient presses of pots and thats ultimately what gets ppl killed because they cant stop the macro in time or they havent got the reactions to change key for black water instantaneously and back to pots.

Give it time until enough plates & emblems circulate and the damage wont be as bad unless people still choose melee glass cannon builds.

I used to play other games where two ppl in pvp would agree its a pot war and stop to conserve valuable high end pots.
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[quote="1355"]I dont think its overpowered at all, i mean do you guys truly want your pvp to become pot wars where you must empty their bag of sesame seed cakes/whistles? Only for them to run or tp and then your own pots are low meaning you lose to the next opponent because you dont have the same "extended hp" via pots. You need to be able to burst someone down or exceed pot speed but only with good gear over the opponent. I think largely it comes down to overzealous smashing of f1-f4 or pot macros rather than calculated and efficient presses of pots and thats ultimately what gets ppl killed because they cant stop the macro in time or they havent got the reactions to change key for black water instantaneously and back to pots. Give it time until enough plates & emblems circulate and the damage wont be as bad unless people still choose melee glass cannon builds. I used to play other games where two ppl in pvp would agree its a pot war and stop to conserve valuable high end pots.[/quote]

 

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