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[quote="J0KER"]Superslut was me had switched chars to check the warehouse.....and my point still stands Check the upgrade success table, will help u a lot [/quote]

[quote="SUPERSTOREV2"][quote="JACKELPUP"]It wasn't "peanuts", it was an opening offer. Some people don't know the value of things (I don't) in terms of trade, Some people have items which, quite frankly, beggar belief and appear to be completely impossible to achieve. I was told a +3 dex windband (ie. a normal windband with 1 upgrade) was worth a large diamond by someone I thought I trusted. I duly paid it thinking it was worth it. Now I discover I was ripped off. Just because some of us don't have the "know how" to make things against seemingly impossible odds and just because some of us don't know what a good trade might be doesn't be we should be spat on and treated like shit by a nameless cretin hiding behind his main. I assume neither of you are going to identify yourselves? Jac[/quote] Chronos here, haven't said anything bad o.o It really was a peanut offer tho, if you want a chance of getting items atleast make your opening offer realistic... 8Dt+8sd? As soon as anyway sees your valuing a 7% evasion helm anywhere close to 5 DT they don't bother listing they're own Eva here for you to bid on. You can choose what you want to bid on items it's fine :p Just go look at other people's threads who massively under/over value they're items and not what they want to buy. Eventually when you try sell stuff nobody bids on your items or put nonsense bids up [/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]Gotta agree with them. To make an item +5 required a lot of luck and a lot of time. To make a 7% eva top it took me over 6months and 500 frogs 250 herbs. To then be offered 5 DT’s Wouldnt tempt me at all to trade. You’ve got to factor in all of that when making a bid. A fully upgraded item for 5 upgrade items - well you can see the logic.[/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]I don't "disagree", I am trying to make the point (obviously unsuccessfully) that I do not know how to value items (especially upgraded items) and it is a bit harsh to come down like an over-weighted hod of bricks collapsing on your head from a great height. I have been taken advantage of (aka ripped off) many times and I am trying to avoid it again. I thought 5 DTs was a good opener, I am sorry that others think it is peanuts. A +7% helm required 5 DPs and I am pretty sure a DT out values a DT. I am aware of success/failures but that has never been taken into account when I have sold an upgraded item (it only works one way around?) A little help would be appreciated instead of an attack against a poor hapless sap who gets palmed off with crap all the time (my main still uses RoFs for instance). Thank you both for telling me who you are. J0ker, I know about the success tables, I am aware of them. However, I am also aware of upgraded items that some people have that (to be blunt) are so vastly impossible to achieve that I cannot accept they were made conventionally. (Especially some accessories). I am still looking for female evasion please .... Jac [/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]There is no cheat system in soma when it comes to upgrades jac. It’s all about time and effort and luck. If you farm for the desired upgrade and try it constsrnly for one year it’ll eventually happen. But considering you are sat on 25 DT’s tells you haven’t tried to upgrade for a while hence your still in RoF’s. I once went through 23 RDT’s in one go to only come out with a +2 ring, it happens![/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]I haven't said there are "cheats" but there are definitely unbelievable items (I am not going to name names but I do know a sufficient number of other people are also very aware - some of whom told me then I looked for myself). Also, I lost 20 DTs trying to make rings and have nothing to show for it. I traded like fook to build up the DTs (forgotten who but I swapped a shed load of rubies with someone for them). Again, I don't know how to value ... Still buying Female Evasion please .... (I also have EPs and ToEs) Jac[/quote]

[quote="DIABLO1980"]i know how you feel sometimes jack, it sux and makes you feel shitty.[/quote]