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JAHEIRA |
"FINITO""JAHEIRA"personally i don't like the fact that you warp, as it spoils the fun. Agreed, would love ppls options on these
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="FINITO"][quote="JAHEIRA"]personally i don't like the fact that you warp, as it spoils the fun.[/quote]
Yeah I agree it does. Need to find a balance (if there even is one).
I have suggested that the opposing race is instead warped to the entrance portal to Conti or the revive area is increased so that reviving can revive you further away from where died. Also maybe we need to look at preventing logout retaining position on Conti map and instead moves to Conti entrance portal.
Anyway, the above are just ideas.
The percentages on the Conti map need looking at (going by what has been said) so each race has a chance at attacking and defending against each other.[/quote]
Agreed, would love ppls options on these[/quote]
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#31 2018/04/04 17:27:40 |
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TYPHIN |
where the ratio of 1 devil vs 2-3 humans and the devil wins is considered 'working as intended'. I'll keep leveling my devil chars and leave my human out of RvR
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#32 2018/04/04 17:55:04 |
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JAHEIRA |
"TYPHIN"where the ratio of 1 devil vs 2-3 humans and the devil wins is considered 'working as intended'. I'll keep leveling my devil chars and leave my human out of RvR in what scenario does 1 devil win vs 2/3 humans ? if 3 mage humans come up against 1 devil archer (mages biggest weakness) then yes 1 devil probly could win against 3 humans tho it only takes 1 of those human mages to have axe 5th aura, and to stone the devil weaken /and 2 shot (possibly 1 shot with weaken on with gannon as example) unless your talking about raiding a devil map, then i can understand, and fully agree humans need to be on 100% raiding
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="TYPHIN"]where the ratio of 1 devil vs 2-3 humans and the devil wins is considered 'working as intended'. I'll keep leveling my devil chars and leave my human out of RvR[/quote]
in what scenario does 1 devil win vs 2/3 humans ?
if 3 mage humans come up against 1 devil archer (mages biggest weakness) then yes 1 devil probly could win against 3 humans
tho it only takes 1 of those human mages to have axe 5th aura, and to stone the devil weaken /and 2 shot (possibly 1 shot with weaken on with gannon as example)
unless your talking about raiding a devil map, then i can understand, and fully agree humans need to be on 100% raiding[/quote]
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#33 2018/04/04 18:05:24 |
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TYROZET |
I like the idea of maybe a different spawn spot just not to town
Let's not compare it to esoma as lots of positive changes have been made on this server to make it more playable for all, just see going town a bad idea as opposed to maybe just the portal |
#34 2018/04/04 18:16:38 |
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MUSASJI |
"FINITO""JAHEIRA"personally i don't like the fact that you warp, as it spoils the fun. All of this makes sense IMO.
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[quote="MUSASJI"][quote="FINITO"][quote="JAHEIRA"]personally i don't like the fact that you warp, as it spoils the fun.[/quote]
Yeah I agree it does. Need to find a balance (if there even is one).
I have suggested that the opposing race is instead warped to the entrance portal to Conti or the revive area is increased so that reviving can revive you further away from where died. Also maybe we need to look at preventing logout retaining position on Conti map and instead moves to Conti entrance portal.
Anyway, the above are just ideas.
The percentages on the Conti map need looking at (going by what has been said) so each race has a chance at attacking and defending against each other.[/quote]
All of this makes sense IMO.[/quote]
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#35 2018/04/04 18:43:25 |
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"JAHEIRA""TYPHIN"where the ratio of 1 devil vs 2-3 humans and the devil wins is considered 'working as intended'. I'll keep leveling my devil chars and leave my human out of RvR Pick any class like for like, 1 devil let's say archer vs 2 human archers. Who wins? And let's not cherry pick the poverty archer. Give them equal gear. +5 bows all and the devil has pod or str/att gear while humans have full Eva's. Be honest, who wins? And at what % does that answer change?
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[quote="TYPHIN"][quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="TYPHIN"]where the ratio of 1 devil vs 2-3 humans and the devil wins is considered 'working as intended'. I'll keep leveling my devil chars and leave my human out of RvR[/quote]
in what scenario does 1 devil win vs 2/3 humans ?
if 3 mage humans come up against 1 devil archer (mages biggest weakness) then yes 1 devil probly could win against 3 humans
tho it only takes 1 of those human mages to have axe 5th aura, and to stone the devil weaken /and 2 shot (possibly 1 shot with weaken on with gannon as example)
unless your talking about raiding a devil map, then i can understand, and fully agree humans need to be on 100% raiding[/quote]
Pick any class like for like, 1 devil let's say archer vs 2 human archers. Who wins?
And let's not cherry pick the poverty archer. Give them equal gear. +5 bows all and the devil has pod or str/att gear while humans have full Eva's.
Be honest, who wins? And at what % does that answer change? [/quote]
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#36 2018/04/04 22:05:51 |
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MUSASJI |
Any class you say, ok 2 human mages v any devil class.
SpoilerShow It ends with the devil dying Gear is also way harder to get on dsoma than hsoma. Humans win, not sure what % it changes as magic destroys us the same as melee does you. Only on our side not everyone has range and 5th axe. I know that wasn’t aimed at me but you’re talking nonsense as I’ve seen a few times, if you’re gonna make points at least try not to make them fundamentally flawed. The grass is always greener and we die a lot even trying to get close to inflict our damage. I didn’t even see you at wotw and can’t remember last time I did, so is your opinion/feedback worth much? I would say no.
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[quote="MUSASJI"]Any class you say, ok 2 human mages v any devil class. [spoiler]It ends with the devil dying[/spoiler]
Gear is also way harder to get on dsoma than hsoma.
Humans win, not sure what % it changes as magic destroys us the same as melee does you. Only on our side not everyone has range and 5th axe.
I know that wasn’t aimed at me but you’re talking nonsense as I’ve seen a few times, if you’re gonna make points at least try not to make them fundamentally flawed. The grass is always greener and we die a lot even trying to get close to inflict our damage.
I didn’t even see you at wotw and can’t remember last time I did, so is your opinion/feedback worth much? I would say no.[/quote]
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#37 2018/04/04 22:12:17 |
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I think the added 12.5% on top of the wotw % needs removing for humans to try and encourage more human raids on dev owned conti. when humans are on 87.5% as they currently are they are raiding conti and T6 on 75% kind of pointless humans raiding when dev archers are so OP.
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[quote="ARYA_"]I think the added 12.5% on top of the wotw % needs removing for humans to try and encourage more human raids on dev owned conti. when humans are on 87.5% as they currently are they are raiding conti and T6 on 75% kind of pointless humans raiding when dev archers are so OP.[/quote]
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#38 2018/04/04 22:23:49 |
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"MUSASJI"Any class you say, ok 2 human mages v any devil class. Engage your brain, read what I said LIKE FOR LIKE NOT ma versus att.... I also said don't cherry pick meaning the pieces that suit your point of view. You either didn't read fully or didn't understand. I also play both races, I've gone 1v3 playing lower lvl dev versus higher level humans and won. Without any upgrades on vod raiding % I call out both sides on the bs. So like I said originally, while this is considered working as intended, I'll continue to level my devil and leave my human out of RvR
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[quote="TYPHIN"][quote="MUSASJI"]Any class you say, ok 2 human mages v any devil class. [spoiler]It ends with the devil dying[/spoiler]
Gear is also way harder to get on dsoma than hsoma.
Humans win, not sure what % it changes as magic destroys us the same as melee does you. Only on our side not everyone has range and 5th axe.
I know that wasn’t aimed at me but you’re talking nonsense as I’ve seen a few times, if you’re gonna make points at least try not to make them fundamentally flawed. The grass is always greener and we die a lot even trying to get close to inflict our damage.
I didn’t even see you at wotw and can’t remember last time I did, so is your opinion/feedback worth much? I would say no.[/quote]
Engage your brain, read what I said LIKE FOR LIKE
NOT ma versus att....
I also said don't cherry pick meaning the pieces that suit your point of view.
You either didn't read fully or didn't understand.
I also play both races, I've gone 1v3 playing lower lvl dev versus higher level humans and won. Without any upgrades on vod raiding %
I call out both sides on the bs.
So like I said originally, while this is considered working as intended, I'll continue to level my devil and leave my human out of RvR
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#39 2018/04/04 23:21:37 |
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Quite often tank 2-3 humans on a basic geared lvl 96 dev that hasn’t even stacked wiz
From a devil that raids fairly regularly I’m happy to have to run from town, the portal is to close to blg, mags and nms |
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"GANDALF"Quite often tank 2-3 humans on a basic geared lvl 96 dev that hasn’t even stacked wiz Nah m8, apparently we all just talk out our asses. The mouths never consider we talking from experience.... Jus cause I post from my main on forum doesn't mean that's all I play.. And its why I get so sick of the loop of bs these threads go through
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[quote="TYPHIN"][quote="GANDALF"]Quite often tank 2-3 humans on a basic geared lvl 96 dev that hasn’t even stacked wiz
From a devil that raids fairly regularly I’m happy to have to run from town, the portal is to close to blg, mags and nms [/quote]
Nah m8, apparently we all just talk out our asses.
The mouths never consider we talking from experience....
Jus cause I post from my main on forum doesn't mean that's all I play..
And its why I get so sick of the loop of bs these threads go through[/quote]
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#41 2018/04/04 23:32:04 |
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MUSASJI |
I think you’re both cherry picking scenarios again. Only an idiot would fight devils with like for like, so your point is again - pointless.
Devils are meant to be stronger for a start, I doubt you tank 3 humans regularly on a level 96 very much unless they’re also noobs/shit at PVP or once again you’re cherry picking scenarios. You humans get everything on a plate and when you don’t for once, you cry about it and say we need a nerf. We’ve already been nerfed, maybe you 2 just need to get better at pvp lol.
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[quote="MUSASJI"]I think you’re both cherry picking scenarios again. Only an idiot would fight devils with like for like, so your point is again - pointless.
Devils are meant to be stronger for a start, I doubt you tank 3 humans regularly on a level 96 very much unless they’re also noobs/shit at PVP or once again you’re cherry picking scenarios.
You humans get everything on a plate and when you don’t for once, you cry about it and say we need a nerf. We’ve already been nerfed, maybe you 2 just need to get better at pvp lol.[/quote]
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#42 2018/04/05 04:38:33 |
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#43 2018/04/05 04:52:43 |
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"MUSASJI"I think you’re both cherry picking scenarios again. Only an idiot would fight devils with like for like, so your point is again - pointless. Live in your bubble sir. But at least stop asking why you don't have nieve humans to slaughter as you don't like the answer
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[quote="TYPHIN"][quote="MUSASJI"]I think you’re both cherry picking scenarios again. Only an idiot would fight devils with like for like, so your point is again - pointless.
Devils are meant to be stronger for a start, I doubt you tank 3 humans regularly on a level 96 very much unless they’re also noobs/shit at PVP or once again you’re cherry picking scenarios.
You humans get everything on a plate and when you don’t for once, you cry about it and say we need a nerf. We’ve already been nerfed, maybe you 2 just need to get better at pvp lol.[/quote]
Live in your bubble sir. But at least stop asking why you don't have nieve humans to slaughter as you don't like the answer [/quote]
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#44 2018/04/05 06:45:14 |
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MUSASJI |
So I come at you with facts and that’s your reply? Point proven, thanks for your time. X
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#45 2018/04/05 07:14:02 |
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