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STONES |
"SLAYER""STONES""SLAYER""MUSASJI"I think you lot are more bothered about that than him lol. Just like you say Gms can quite easily look at ip logs to see they're killing themselves on alts,
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[quote="STONES"][quote="SLAYER"][quote="STONES"][quote="SLAYER"][quote="MUSASJI"]I think you lot are more bothered about that than him lol.
Don’t you have a system to be abusing/KD to be buffing or crying about being PK’d to be getting on with anyway?[/quote]
Me? the time you lot claim I was raising my KD was killing a mate on Rambo TWICE (total) coz he pissed me off...any other examples you care to highlight? as I've seen many in your guild do dozens of kills just in one go to raise their K/D (pre PK immunity ofc)...
Being pk'd? hasn't happened in over a month I don't think as I haven't been playing much other than at gvws and Pk wars.
Let me also add...If someone is doing what you guys claim, you realize they can't hit anyone in the same time period, so how is that being anything but passive at their own cost? if you guys want to claim abuse then stones and waga should be long gone, same for macho etc etc so let's not go there.[/quote]
It's blatant abuse of mechanics... If you think I should be long gone send whatever Proof you have in to Gm's otherwise be quiet and get back to continuing to abuse this yourself... [/quote]
If you are bringing up the topic of someone raising their K/D through killing an alt then I think everyone knows waga and stones are probably worst offenders of this, everyone on dsoma knows it and I'm sure the Gms can look into your feed if they can be bothered. Didn't collect evidence as didn't care at the time but you keep bringing it up.
No one is abusing anything, as you say, provide evidence, else it is all conjecture. Two kills on a feed by an associate, what does that mean? you don't know intent you are making assumptions.[/quote]
Just like you say Gms can quite easily look at ip logs to see they're killing themselves on alts, [/quote]
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#46 2018/04/23 19:27:03 |
SLAYER |
"FRINGE"*buffing k/d* etc is not even worth looking at. its an analytic tool. people who choose to kill there own chars or not makes 0 diffirence. so why are you all so ragin about it? Think they are raging because they think encore are 'killing themselves' with an alt in order to do several things that supposedly benefit them...i.e. raise K/D (ok so their main loses K/D to benefit the alt?), pk immunity for 30 minutes (lol, worth the lost moral on these alts purely for that?/cost of resis (if said claim was true))...But I agree with you, I'm just saying the pot shouldn't call the kettle black, especially when the pot has no concrete evidence of any other parts of their claim. Could start bringing up past things as well but let's not go tit for tat...
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="FRINGE"]*buffing k/d* etc is not even worth looking at. its an analytic tool. people who choose to kill there own chars or not makes 0 diffirence. so why are you all so ragin about it? [/quote]
Think they are raging because they think encore are 'killing themselves' with an alt in order to do several things that supposedly benefit them...i.e. raise K/D (ok so their main loses K/D to benefit the alt?), pk immunity for 30 minutes (lol, worth the lost moral on these alts purely for that?/cost of resis (if said claim was true))...But I agree with you, I'm just saying the pot shouldn't call the kettle black, especially when the pot has no concrete evidence of any other parts of their claim.
Could start bringing up past things as well but let's not go tit for tat...[/quote]
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#47 2018/04/23 19:30:05 |
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"STONES""SLAYER""STONES""SLAYER""MUSASJI"I think you lot are more bothered about that than him lol. Agreed. Although I guess they need to check MAC address to? What if someone is on the same internal network? let us be thorough here...
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="STONES"][quote="SLAYER"][quote="STONES"][quote="SLAYER"][quote="MUSASJI"]I think you lot are more bothered about that than him lol.
Don’t you have a system to be abusing/KD to be buffing or crying about being PK’d to be getting on with anyway?[/quote]
Me? the time you lot claim I was raising my KD was killing a mate on Rambo TWICE (total) coz he pissed me off...any other examples you care to highlight? as I've seen many in your guild do dozens of kills just in one go to raise their K/D (pre PK immunity ofc)...
Being pk'd? hasn't happened in over a month I don't think as I haven't been playing much other than at gvws and Pk wars.
Let me also add...If someone is doing what you guys claim, you realize they can't hit anyone in the same time period, so how is that being anything but passive at their own cost? if you guys want to claim abuse then stones and waga should be long gone, same for macho etc etc so let's not go there.[/quote]
It's blatant abuse of mechanics... If you think I should be long gone send whatever Proof you have in to Gm's otherwise be quiet and get back to continuing to abuse this yourself... [/quote]
If you are bringing up the topic of someone raising their K/D through killing an alt then I think everyone knows waga and stones are probably worst offenders of this, everyone on dsoma knows it and I'm sure the Gms can look into your feed if they can be bothered. Didn't collect evidence as didn't care at the time but you keep bringing it up.
No one is abusing anything, as you say, provide evidence, else it is all conjecture. Two kills on a feed by an associate, what does that mean? you don't know intent you are making assumptions.[/quote]
Just like you say Gms can quite easily look at ip logs to see they're killing themselves on alts, [/quote]
Agreed. Although I guess they need to check MAC address to? What if someone is on the same internal network? let us be thorough here...[/quote]
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#48 2018/04/23 19:32:07 |
ALEXISONFIRE |
Who cares...
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#49 2018/04/23 20:03:33 |
FRINGE |
does it really matter who kills who twice tho. still 2 deaths. whether u get pk'd by an enemy or pk'd by urself. its the same thing o_O
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#50 2018/04/23 20:08:10 |
STONES |
"FRINGE"does it really matter who kills who twice tho. still 2 deaths. whether u get pk'd by an enemy or pk'd by urself. its the same thing o_O Yeah it's still 2 deaths (that they'll equal out later on by killing they're other guildies) It's more the fact they are taking PvP away from players who want it in a massively PvP based game.. Before the immunity patch came in people suggested the idea of PK free maps with severely reduced drops, this is the same thing but with normal drops. If everyone else did what a few Encore members are already doing we'd be stuck with a PvE only server
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[quote="STONES"][quote="FRINGE"]does it really matter who kills who twice tho. still 2 deaths. whether u get pk'd by an enemy or pk'd by urself. its the same thing o_O[/quote]
Yeah it's still 2 deaths (that they'll equal out later on by killing they're other guildies)
It's more the fact they are taking PvP away from players who want it in a massively PvP based game..
Before the immunity patch came in people suggested the idea of PK free maps with severely reduced drops, this is the same thing but with normal drops.
If everyone else did what a few Encore members are already doing we'd be stuck with a PvE only server[/quote]
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#51 2018/04/23 21:27:49 |
STRELKA |
"JHAELIEN"Anyone with a massive k/d pretty much gained that within the first couple years of the game when there was no system. Made my char in Summer 2017 and never went around killing low levels and padding it. It's just about how you play and has virtually no meaning if the character is an archer.
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[quote="STRELKA"][quote="JHAELIEN"]Anyone with a massive k/d pretty much gained that within the first couple years of the game when there was no system. [/quote]
Made my char in Summer 2017 and never went around killing low levels and padding it. It's just about how you play and has virtually no meaning if the character is an archer. [/quote]
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#52 2018/04/23 21:54:35 |
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www.mutiny.pro, nobody is gonna tak it up the ringpiece just to boost your score on your website, id rather pk myself then let you guys in mutiny have an easy kill, im not bothered about my KD but most of mutiny are openly going out of their way to destroy the server for some dumb reason, and others got their heads so far up their backsides they talk nothing but crap
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[quote="ARYA_"]www.mutiny.pro, nobody is gonna tak it up the ringpiece just to boost your score on your website, id rather pk myself then let you guys in mutiny have an easy kill, im not bothered about my KD but most of mutiny are openly going out of their way to destroy the server for some dumb reason, and others got their heads so far up their backsides they talk nothing but crap[/quote]
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#53 2018/04/23 22:10:12 |
JHAELIEN |
"STRELKA""JHAELIEN"Anyone with a massive k/d pretty much gained that within the first couple years of the game when there was no system. Summer 2017 is late considering what period I'm referring to, I played on the very first day the server opened. Pk ruling was still esoma style for quite some time and not overly policed like it is now. Characters like Slayer will know what I'm talking about his k/d reflects on that period. Not a dig just generally saying,.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="STRELKA"][quote="JHAELIEN"]Anyone with a massive k/d pretty much gained that within the first couple years of the game when there was no system. [/quote]
Made my char in Summer 2017 and never went around killing low levels and padding it. It's just about how you play and has virtually no meaning if the character is an archer. [/quote]
Summer 2017 is late considering what period I'm referring to, I played on the very first day the server opened. Pk ruling was still esoma style for quite some time and not overly policed like it is now. Characters like Slayer will know what I'm talking about his k/d reflects on that period. Not a dig just generally saying,.[/quote]
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#54 2018/04/23 22:31:49 |
PUTIN |
scrap that your no worth baiting back into playing again
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#55 2018/04/23 22:47:17 |
SLAYER |
"JHAELIEN""STRELKA""JHAELIEN"Anyone with a massive k/d pretty much gained that within the first couple years of the game when there was no system. Yeah PK system was very different tbf....being angel was a lot more harsh and the community kept itself in check a little better with numbers being on consistently from various sides. It's when the community gets smaller and one side is willing to be online constantly to try get the other to leave. The whole 2 pk thing is encouraging people to go for 2 easy kills, as they know the person will be willing to take the kills in order to level, which then encourages the same PKer to stay online to wait for 2 more kills...quite toxic. Two spawn rule seemed the best to me so far...but It needed policing. If people just stuck to it and one spawn had better drop rate, everyone should be happy. There is still PKing after gvws etc when fights are more even sided...people can try fight for best spawn etc.
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="STRELKA"][quote="JHAELIEN"]Anyone with a massive k/d pretty much gained that within the first couple years of the game when there was no system. [/quote]
Made my char in Summer 2017 and never went around killing low levels and padding it. It's just about how you play and has virtually no meaning if the character is an archer. [/quote]
Summer 2017 is late considering what period I'm referring to, I played on the very first day the server opened. Pk ruling was still esoma style for quite some time and not overly policed like it is now. Characters like Slayer will know what I'm talking about his k/d reflects on that period. Not a dig just generally saying,.[/quote]
Yeah PK system was very different tbf....being angel was a lot more harsh and the community kept itself in check a little better with numbers being on consistently from various sides. It's when the community gets smaller and one side is willing to be online constantly to try get the other to leave.
The whole 2 pk thing is encouraging people to go for 2 easy kills, as they know the person will be willing to take the kills in order to level, which then encourages the same PKer to stay online to wait for 2 more kills...quite toxic.
Two spawn rule seemed the best to me so far...but It needed policing. If people just stuck to it and one spawn had better drop rate, everyone should be happy. There is still PKing after gvws etc when fights are more even sided...people can try fight for best spawn etc.
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#56 2018/04/23 23:09:40 |
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"STONES""FRINGE"does it really matter who kills who twice tho. still 2 deaths. whether u get pk'd by an enemy or pk'd by urself. its the same thing o_O Where's the proof they are going to even out their K/D? from what I've seen the players involved wouldn't allow someone else to get kills on them in reverse based on their low deaths...so again conjecture. Basically even IF they are doing what you are saying, which I highly doubt they are and you have no proof of... They would lose moral as already said, which the archers running around angel obviously don't...their loss is therefore greater cumulatively than that of dieing normally (no one would risk leaving town without rezis with you lot running about 24x7) All it would do in theory is Denny you of the odd couple of kills (which clearly bothers you, and I don't know why, as you still get loads of kills on our lower levels when they are trying to level)..so essentially the only things they would be doing is preventing you from getting points on your website and 2 free kills every now and then...yet you are screaming abuse of the system without evidence. I know you have rewards for highest points each month but they should be on kills outside of people bending over and simply doing it for 30 minutes of being able to level. We should talk as a community about the toxicity of some players and the levels they take harassment to, that's the main issue, following from spawn to spawn being abusive...we have all had loads of that from mutiny and co...Doesn't really bother me, just bothers me that is destroys the community...the pking every 30 minutes just goes hand in hand with it as it's still pretty much constant.
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="STONES"][quote="FRINGE"]does it really matter who kills who twice tho. still 2 deaths. whether u get pk'd by an enemy or pk'd by urself. its the same thing o_O[/quote]
Yeah it's still 2 deaths (that they'll equal out later on by killing they're other guildies)
It's more the fact they are taking PvP away from players who want it in a massively PvP based game..
Before the immunity patch came in people suggested the idea of PK free maps with severely reduced drops, this is the same thing but with normal drops.
If everyone else did what a few Encore members are already doing we'd be stuck with a PvE only server[/quote]
Where's the proof they are going to even out their K/D? from what I've seen the players involved wouldn't allow someone else to get kills on them in reverse based on their low deaths...so again conjecture.
Basically even [b]IF[/b] they are doing what you are saying, which I highly doubt they are and you have no proof of... They would lose moral as already said, which the archers running around angel obviously don't...their loss is therefore greater cumulatively than that of dieing normally (no one would risk leaving town without rezis with you lot running about 24x7)
All it would do in theory is Denny you of the odd couple of kills (which clearly bothers you, and I don't know why, as you still get loads of kills on our lower levels when they are trying to level)..so essentially the only things they would be doing is preventing you from getting points on your website and 2 free kills every now and then...yet you are screaming abuse of the system without evidence.
I know you have rewards for highest points each month but they should be on kills outside of people bending over and simply doing it for 30 minutes of being able to level.
We should talk as a community about the toxicity of some players and the levels they take harassment to, that's the main issue, following from spawn to spawn being abusive...we have all had loads of that from mutiny and co...Doesn't really bother me, just bothers me that is destroys the community...the pking every 30 minutes just goes hand in hand with it as it's still pretty much constant.[/quote]
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#57 2018/04/23 23:14:44 |
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I guess from it not being policed anymore (good move), plus the new immunity system being in place that it’s no longer an offence to chase spawn to spawn. Take 2 deaths and you can hunt perfectly fine for 30 mins. So you can hunt but you’d rather not to avoid dying, no justifiable reason for crying about it on the forum or anywhere tbh.
This game is an open world pvp game, as previously stated if you don’t like that then FarmVille may be a good alternative.
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[quote="MUSASJI"]I guess from it not being policed anymore (good move), plus the new immunity system being in place that it’s no longer an offence to chase spawn to spawn. Take 2 deaths and you can hunt perfectly fine for 30 mins. So you can hunt but you’d rather not to avoid dying, no justifiable reason for crying about it on the forum or anywhere tbh.
This game is an open world pvp game, as previously stated if you don’t like that then FarmVille may be a good alternative.[/quote]
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#58 2018/04/23 23:27:14 |
JHAELIEN |
"MUSASJI"This game is an open world pvp game, as previously stated if you don’t like that then FarmVille may be a good alternative. Going by what I'm reading the farmville crew have already done their damage or the pk system that's in place now probably wouldn't be in place would it.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"][quote="MUSASJI"]This game is an open world pvp game, as previously stated if you don’t like that then FarmVille may be a good alternative.[/quote]
Going by what I'm reading the farmville crew have already done their damage or the pk system that's in place now probably wouldn't be in place would it.
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#59 2018/04/24 00:25:04 |
STONES |
"SLAYER""STONES""FRINGE"does it really matter who kills who twice tho. still 2 deaths. whether u get pk'd by an enemy or pk'd by urself. its the same thing o_O I don't need proof as it's almost impossible for players to obtain it - this is a private server of a 15+ year old game, not a courtroom Gms can quite easily see who's doing it if they wanted to and punish those abusing the game (besides those who have already admitted it) I don't want points on a website, i want the Gms to see who the players are that are abusing the game mechanics they spent a long time on to implement
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[quote="STONES"][quote="SLAYER"][quote="STONES"][quote="FRINGE"]does it really matter who kills who twice tho. still 2 deaths. whether u get pk'd by an enemy or pk'd by urself. its the same thing o_O[/quote]
Yeah it's still 2 deaths (that they'll equal out later on by killing they're other guildies)
It's more the fact they are taking PvP away from players who want it in a massively PvP based game..
Before the immunity patch came in people suggested the idea of PK free maps with severely reduced drops, this is the same thing but with normal drops.
If everyone else did what a few Encore members are already doing we'd be stuck with a PvE only server[/quote]
Where's the proof they are going to even out their K/D? from what I've seen the players involved wouldn't allow someone else to get kills on them in reverse based on their low deaths...so again conjecture.
Basically even [b]IF[/b] they are doing what you are saying, which I highly doubt they are and you have no proof of... They would lose moral as already said, which the archers running around angel obviously don't...their loss is therefore greater cumulatively than that of dieing normally (no one would risk leaving town without rezis with you lot running about 24x7)
All it would do in theory is Denny you of the odd couple of kills (which clearly bothers you, and I don't know why, as you still get loads of kills on our lower levels when they are trying to level)..so essentially the only things they would be doing is preventing you from getting points on your website and 2 free kills every now and then...yet you are screaming abuse of the system without evidence.
I know you have rewards for highest points each month but they should be on kills outside of people bending over and simply doing it for 30 minutes of being able to level.
We should talk as a community about the toxicity of some players and the levels they take harassment to, that's the main issue, following from spawn to spawn being abusive...we have all had loads of that from mutiny and co...Doesn't really bother me, just bothers me that is destroys the community...the pking every 30 minutes just goes hand in hand with it as it's still pretty much constant.[/quote]
I don't need proof as it's almost impossible for players to obtain it - this is a private server of a 15+ year old game, not a courtroom
Gms can quite easily see who's doing it if they wanted to and punish those abusing the game (besides those who have already admitted it)
I don't want points on a website, i want the Gms to see who the players are that are abusing the game mechanics they spent a long time on to implement
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