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MUSASJI |
To a degree I’d have to agree Jhae. However I’m sure this system wasn’t intended to be abused to totally avoid PVP and buff KD’s, which people clearly do care about (Reference: watch Slayer in a pk fight, even 2 v 4 in his favour lol).
I don’t believe this system is even that bad, if not for the abuse of it. It actually makes sense if the GM’s don’t wanna have to constantly deal with little babies whining to them, like children on a playground because they didn’t wanna die on a game and would rather try getting people banned (to no avail, UL.)
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[quote="MUSASJI"]To a degree I’d have to agree Jhae. However I’m sure this system wasn’t intended to be abused to totally avoid PVP and buff KD’s, which people clearly do care about (Reference: watch Slayer in a pk fight, even 2 v 4 in his favour lol).
I don’t believe this system is even that bad, if not for the abuse of it. It actually makes sense if the GM’s don’t wanna have to constantly deal with little babies whining to them, like children on a playground because they didn’t wanna die on a game and would rather try getting people banned (to no avail, UL.)[/quote]
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#61 2018/04/24 07:44:23 |
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Musa the trick is to not die not to be bothered about KD lol, the abuse slayer has received because he runs about is dumb, of course hes gonna keep moving hes an archer, thats what archers have done throughout history, its a pain in ass especially for the rest of us who need to get into range 1, but thats what it is and thats why you need to be better balance of classes to be a great long standing guild, encore has a mixture of every class which makes us strong, mutiny are what 90/95% archers when they PvP they are never going to dominate with those numbers.
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[quote="ARYA_"]Musa the trick is to not die not to be bothered about KD lol, the abuse slayer has received because he runs about is dumb, of course hes gonna keep moving hes an archer, thats what archers have done throughout history, its a pain in ass especially for the rest of us who need to get into range 1, but thats what it is and thats why you need to be better balance of classes to be a great long standing guild, encore has a mixture of every class which makes us strong, mutiny are what 90/95% archers when they PvP they are never going to dominate with those numbers.[/quote]
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#62 2018/04/24 08:09:48 |
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"ARYA_"Musa the trick is to not die not to be bothered about KD lol, the abuse slayer has received because he runs about is dumb, of course hes gonna keep moving hes an archer, thats what archers have done throughout history, its a pain in ass especially for the rest of us who need to get into range 1, but thats what it is and thats why you need to be better balance of classes to be a great long standing guild, encore has a mixture of every class which makes us strong, mutiny are what 90/95% archers when they PvP they are never going to dominate with those numbers. Your right about the range problems, this is still a big problem on Hsoma where 90% of people skill axe as a second wep for paralyse so even more of a problem for Dsoma, Hopefully Gms are working on something to solve this. Not sure how much you've been Ingame but mutiny are dominating, too hard if anything, it's got to the point where encore need to spam Hsoma all day to get non-used chars logged in for GVW just to stay competitive. + the whole problems we're seeing here where Encore feel they need to bug abuse new mechanic just to survive while they're outside town
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[quote="STONES"][quote="ARYA_"]Musa the trick is to not die not to be bothered about KD lol, the abuse slayer has received because he runs about is dumb, of course hes gonna keep moving hes an archer, thats what archers have done throughout history, its a pain in ass especially for the rest of us who need to get into range 1, but thats what it is and thats why you need to be better balance of classes to be a great long standing guild, encore has a mixture of every class which makes us strong, mutiny are what 90/95% archers when they PvP they are never going to dominate with those numbers.[/quote]
Your right about the range problems, this is still a big problem on Hsoma where 90% of people skill axe as a second wep for paralyse so even more of a problem for Dsoma, Hopefully Gms are working on something to solve this.
Not sure how much you've been Ingame but mutiny are dominating, too hard if anything, it's got to the point where encore need to spam Hsoma all day to get non-used chars logged in for GVW just to stay competitive.
+ the whole problems we're seeing here where Encore feel they need to bug abuse new mechanic just to survive while they're outside town[/quote]
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#63 2018/04/24 08:17:42 |
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MUSASJI |
Of course he moves about as an archer, I do as a swordie myself but thanks for pointing out the obvious mate.
I say Slayer runs because unless numbers favour his side GREATLY he’s off, but if there’s 8 encore v 2 Koreans with pot lag then all of a sudden he’ll be there lol. He takes absolutely 0 risk ever and I just think it’s a poor play style to worry about your K/D so much. It doesn’t bother me in the slightest, I just take some joy in pointing out it’s not he’s good at pvp, he just engages in PVP like a total pussy and pads K/D lol.
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[quote="MUSASJI"]Of course he moves about as an archer, I do as a swordie myself but thanks for pointing out the obvious mate.
I say Slayer runs because unless numbers favour his side GREATLY he’s off, but if there’s 8 encore v 2 Koreans with pot lag then all of a sudden he’ll be there lol. He takes absolutely 0 risk ever and I just think it’s a poor play style to worry about your K/D so much.
It doesn’t bother me in the slightest, I just take some joy in pointing out it’s not he’s good at pvp, he just engages in PVP like a total pussy and pads K/D lol.[/quote]
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#64 2018/04/24 08:58:49 |
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MUSASJI |
Hold on Arya, did you seriously just claim Encore dominate Mutiny in PVP? I missed that hahaha
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#65 2018/04/24 09:19:12 |
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DEIMOS |
1 it's not a bug so no bug abuse, 2 people are still being pk'd just choosing who to die to, it would be just as easy to select someone else and just stop putting when person person hit you
You need to get over the whole k/d thing it's irrelevant Also let's not start crying bug abuse when ted waga and co regularly warp to town while angel repeatedly until they find the guard dead spots, that is actual bug abuse
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[quote="DEIMOS"]1 it's not a bug so no bug abuse, 2 people are still being pk'd just choosing who to die to, it would be just as easy to select someone else and just stop putting when person person hit you
You need to get over the whole k/d thing it's irrelevant
Also let's not start crying bug abuse when ted waga and co regularly warp to town while angel repeatedly until they find the guard dead spots, that is actual bug abuse[/quote]
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#66 2018/04/24 09:29:16 |
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DEIMOS |
Last night would beg to differ there mus, myself and slayer were up against tyro and sana, tyro only one who dropped, we warped because you needed to bring more people
Then again at tarks you ended up with 5 archers and an axer against 4 of our people (including slayer)
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[quote="DEIMOS"]Last night would beg to differ there mus, myself and slayer were up against tyro and sana, tyro only one who dropped, we warped because you needed to bring more people
Then again at tarks you ended up with 5 archers and an axer against 4 of our people (including slayer)[/quote]
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#67 2018/04/24 09:36:27 |
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ohhh shit forgot about the npc from cess to hwan m8😓
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#68 2018/04/24 09:38:28 |
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"DEIMOS"1 it's not a bug so no bug abuse, 2 people are still being pk'd just choosing who to die to, it would be just as easy to select someone else and just stop putting when person person hit you Your right it's not bug abuse but it's blatant game mechanics abuse, mechanics that were put in place to cater to care bears like yourself. Soma was still alive after 15+ years without this change, even this server had 3+? Years without it in-place Stop trying to make it all about KD I've said several times it's all about Encore effectively making this a PvE server unless it suits them. Would still like a Gms views on this.
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[quote="STONES"][quote="DEIMOS"]1 it's not a bug so no bug abuse, 2 people are still being pk'd just choosing who to die to, it would be just as easy to select someone else and just stop putting when person person hit you
You need to get over the whole k/d thing it's irrelevant
Also let's not start crying bug abuse when ted waga and co regularly warp to town while angel repeatedly until they find the guard dead spots, that is actual bug abuse[/quote]
Your right it's not bug abuse but it's blatant game mechanics abuse, mechanics that were put in place to cater to care bears like yourself.
Soma was still alive after 15+ years without this change, even this server had 3+? Years without it in-place
Stop trying to make it all about KD I've said several times it's all about Encore effectively making this a PvE server unless it suits them.
Would still like a Gms views on this.
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#69 2018/04/24 10:11:04 |
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DEIMOS |
You say that and yet my char wasnt active when it was introduced, I dont even like the new rules but that's a separate topic, I'm happy for ok to kick off regular, what I dont agree with is that the new rules force me to take 2 deaths to be able to hunt, as certain people dont stop trying to kill you until it's no longer possible - effectively meaning if I dont want to take any deaths I can't level either
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[quote="DEIMOS"]You say that and yet my char wasnt active when it was introduced, I dont even like the new rules but that's a separate topic, I'm happy for ok to kick off regular, what I dont agree with is that the new rules force me to take 2 deaths to be able to hunt, as certain people dont stop trying to kill you until it's no longer possible - effectively meaning if I dont want to take any deaths I can't level either[/quote]
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#70 2018/04/24 10:23:47 |
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DEIMOS |
But yes some GM input is welcomed then we know what is and isn't allowed
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"DEIMOS"You say that and yet my char wasnt active when it was introduced, I dont even like the new rules but that's a separate topic, I'm happy for ok to kick off regular, what I dont agree with is that the new rules force me to take 2 deaths to be able to hunt, as certain people dont stop trying to kill you until it's no longer possible - effectively meaning if I dont want to take any deaths I can't level either Soma is an online PvP based game, there should be no rules at all - IMO - you won't find such rules in any other PvP based game in the world. Although I do understand with the carebear attitude of players today and such a poor usercount something must be in place to keep the server going Given such a hard time leveling with repeated PKs etc use to be a massive draw for many players "I'll level up and get them b*stards back when I'm a higher level" it use to bring good competition, but these days people die twice and want to rage quit. We killed Quincy - a level 90 ish last night he had 3 deaths total on his feed, he ran from conti wbm to hwan wbm then came the classic "following me to a different mob spawns sending screenies GM enjoy ban" When did soma become this carebear?
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[quote="STONES"][quote="DEIMOS"]You say that and yet my char wasnt active when it was introduced, I dont even like the new rules but that's a separate topic, I'm happy for ok to kick off regular, what I dont agree with is that the new rules force me to take 2 deaths to be able to hunt, as certain people dont stop trying to kill you until it's no longer possible - effectively meaning if I dont want to take any deaths I can't level either[/quote]
Soma is an online PvP based game, there should be no rules at all - IMO - you won't find such rules in any other PvP based game in the world.
Although I do understand with the carebear attitude of players today and such a poor usercount something must be in place to keep the server going
Given such a hard time leveling with repeated PKs etc use to be a massive draw for many players "I'll level up and get them b*stards back when I'm a higher level" it use to bring good competition, but these days people die twice and want to rage quit.
We killed Quincy - a level 90 ish last night he had 3 deaths total on his feed, he ran from conti wbm to hwan wbm then came the classic "following me to a different mob spawns sending screenies GM enjoy ban"
When did soma become this carebear?
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#72 2018/04/24 10:41:57 |
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I never said encore dominate I said encore are strong as we are mixed classes, stones you have exploited bugs on the game to get your gear so pot calling the kettle black.
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#73 2018/04/24 11:03:53 |
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Right seen as you are all bringing other stuff into the conversation...as you always need new ammo...
I fight when it's even sided people know that, when you have trace I don't stand still next to any one person as I know someone can trace in and stone me...not hard... Now you are saying I don't fight unless numbers are in my favor....total bs people in my guild know that and have witnessed the lengths you go through to try get kills on me, i.e. judd has been leveling next to me whilst I 1v1 ted and 3 more trace in...2v2 afro and tyro v me and kustons, deis example above for even sided fights we come out on top...I have done plenty of 1v1's 2v2's or 3v3's lately....lastnight 2 v 1 against me...still get kills, same for 2v2 last night...get over it and stop clutching at straws vs me and think about the rest of the server. When it's me and a level 101 axer vs two capped and fully geared archers I might say let's go yeah, because that's not even sided, the axer is not going to land a hit and you guys sit there with proc on both of you so what's the point? I sometimes 'run away' for reasons you guys must be ignorant to. But yeah I also never stand still In pvp, it's intentional obviously. Let's wait and see what GMs have to say about the accusations anyway this is getting boring and just becoming a flaming contest, you guys shout cheating at anything yet I can think of players in your possession that have been PERMA banned for cheating...so lest haste, yes?
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[quote="SLAYER"]Right seen as you are all bringing other stuff into the conversation...as you always need new ammo...
I fight when it's even sided people know that, when you have trace I don't stand still next to any one person as I know someone can trace in and stone me...not hard...
Now you are saying I don't fight unless numbers are in my favor....total bs people in my guild know that and have witnessed the lengths you go through to try get kills on me, i.e. judd has been leveling next to me whilst I 1v1 ted and 3 more trace in...2v2 afro and tyro v me and kustons, deis example above for even sided fights we come out on top...I have done plenty of 1v1's 2v2's or 3v3's lately....lastnight 2 v 1 against me...still get kills, same for 2v2 last night...get over it and stop clutching at straws vs me and think about the rest of the server.
When it's me and a level 101 axer vs two capped and fully geared archers I might say let's go yeah, because that's not even sided, the axer is not going to land a hit and you guys sit there with proc on both of you so what's the point?
I sometimes 'run away' for reasons you guys must be ignorant to. But yeah I also never stand still In pvp, it's intentional obviously.
Let's wait and see what GMs have to say about the accusations anyway this is getting boring and just becoming a flaming contest, you guys shout cheating at anything yet I can think of players in your possession that have been PERMA banned for cheating...so lest haste, yes?[/quote]
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#74 2018/04/24 11:41:41 |
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"STONES""DEIMOS"You say that and yet my char wasnt active when it was introduced, I dont even like the new rules but that's a separate topic, I'm happy for ok to kick off regular, what I dont agree with is that the new rules force me to take 2 deaths to be able to hunt, as certain people dont stop trying to kill you until it's no longer possible - effectively meaning if I dont want to take any deaths I can't level either It's not so much the 2 kill thing being carebear, it's the attitude it enforces, i.e. "I can go and get two easy kills as I know they won't run or fight back as they just want to hunt" whereas before people would run or log etc...so then you have these strange souls who stay logged online to get two free kills every 30 mins from whoever they can.
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="STONES"][quote="DEIMOS"]You say that and yet my char wasnt active when it was introduced, I dont even like the new rules but that's a separate topic, I'm happy for ok to kick off regular, what I dont agree with is that the new rules force me to take 2 deaths to be able to hunt, as certain people dont stop trying to kill you until it's no longer possible - effectively meaning if I dont want to take any deaths I can't level either[/quote]
Soma is an online PvP based game, there should be no rules at all - IMO - you won't find such rules in any other PvP based game in the world.
Although I do understand with the carebear attitude of players today and such a poor usercount something must be in place to keep the server going
Given such a hard time leveling with repeated PKs etc use to be a massive draw for many players "I'll level up and get them b*stards back when I'm a higher level" it use to bring good competition, but these days people die twice and want to rage quit.
We killed Quincy - a level 90 ish last night he had 3 deaths total on his feed, he ran from conti wbm to hwan wbm then came the classic "following me to a different mob spawns sending screenies GM enjoy ban"
When did soma become this carebear?
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It's not so much the 2 kill thing being carebear, it's the attitude it enforces, i.e. "I can go and get two easy kills as I know they won't run or fight back as they just want to hunt" whereas before people would run or log etc...so then you have these strange souls who stay logged online to get two free kills every 30 mins from whoever they can.[/quote]
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#75 2018/04/24 11:43:34 |
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