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Evasion Experiment

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Evasion Experiment

Donor Mob : Stige
Attack Dex of donor mob : 18
Base Dex of subject player : 131

Mob attempts to hit per minute (H/pm) : 40
Total mobs engaged throughout experiment : 8 (at once)

Duration of each experiment : 5 minutes
Mitigation : Average per 1 minute

Experiment 1 – player naked & unequipped
50 H/pm (79% evasion) - naked
40 H/pm (83% evasion) - naked, with bow aura

Experiment 2 – 10% total evasion parts equipped (nothing else)
21 H/pm (89% evasion) -no aura
10 H/pm (96% evasion) - with bow aura
4 H/pm (98.5% evasion) – with 2 x RoKs and bow aura

Experiment 3 – 20% total evasion parts equipped
4 H/pm (98.5% evasion) -no aura
4 H/pm (98.5% evasion) - with bow aura
4 H/pm (98.5% evasion) – with 2 x RoKs and bow aura


(Apparent) Conclusions
1) Maximum achievable evasion (with no evasion parts) is 80%
2) Minimum requirement of 20% evasion parts required for 99%
3) Dodge aura is 8% evasion and counts towards the required 20%


Notes
8 Donors hitting 40 times per minute for 5 minutes = 1600 swipes

Results (above) are averages and not rounded. Rounding could easily bring the figures to the expected/desired results.

It is accepted that the control amounts are small

It is accepted that the RNG can bugger up anything/everything

It is accepted that these results are not “conclusive”

It is assumed that a player will need (defence) dexterity of 50 or more over the mob

There may be other factors with different mobs



8)

Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"][b]Evasion Experiment[/b] Donor Mob : Stige Attack Dex of donor mob : 18 Base Dex of subject player : 131 Mob attempts to hit per minute (H/pm) : 40 Total mobs engaged throughout experiment : 8 (at once) Duration of each experiment : 5 minutes Mitigation : Average per 1 minute [b]Experiment 1 – player naked & unequipped[/b] 50 H/pm (79% evasion) - naked 40 H/pm (83% evasion) - naked, with bow aura [b]Experiment 2 – 10% total evasion parts equipped (nothing else)[/b] 21 H/pm (89% evasion) -no aura 10 H/pm (96% evasion) - with bow aura 4 H/pm (98.5% evasion) – with 2 x RoKs and bow aura [b]Experiment 3 – 20% total evasion parts equipped[/b] 4 H/pm (98.5% evasion) -no aura 4 H/pm (98.5% evasion) - with bow aura 4 H/pm (98.5% evasion) – with 2 x RoKs and bow aura [b](Apparent) Conclusions[/b] 1) Maximum achievable evasion (with no evasion parts) is 80% 2) Minimum requirement of 20% evasion parts required for 99% 3) Dodge aura is 8% evasion and counts towards the required 20% [b]Notes[/b] 8 Donors hitting 40 times per minute for 5 minutes = 1600 swipes Results (above) are averages and not rounded. Rounding could easily bring the figures to the expected/desired results. It is accepted that the control amounts are small It is accepted that the RNG can bugger up anything/everything It is accepted that these results are not “conclusive” It is assumed that a player will need (defence) dexterity of 50 or more over the mob There may be other factors with different mobs 8) Jac [/quote]
Evasion Experiment (2)

Donor Mob : BLG
Attack Dex of donor mob : 112
Base Dex of subject player : 146

Mob attempts to hit per minute (H/pm) : 40
Total mobs engaged throughout experiment : 7 (at once)

Duration of each experiment : 5 minutes
Mitigation : Average per 1 minute


With 22% total evasion parts equipped and Dodge aura they hit 3 times per minute (average) which equates to 99% evasion.

With 12% evasion parts equipped and Dodge aura 8% (equipment = boots, helm and 2 x RoKs) they hit 10 times per minute (average) which equates to 96% evasion

In the second experiment, the total defence dex is 166 (+54 over the attack dex of the mob). Of the 166 dex, evasion parts make up 20% (2 x eva parts (10%), 2 x RoKS (2%) and Dodge (8%)). Yet the overall evasion rate is reduced by 3%.

What is going on ????

8~()

Jac

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[quote="JACKELPUP"][b]Evasion Experiment (2)[/b] Donor Mob : BLG Attack Dex of donor mob : 112 Base Dex of subject player : 146 Mob attempts to hit per minute (H/pm) : 40 Total mobs engaged throughout experiment : 7 (at once) Duration of each experiment : 5 minutes Mitigation : Average per 1 minute With 22% total evasion parts equipped and Dodge aura they hit 3 times per minute (average) which equates to 99% evasion. With 12% evasion parts equipped and Dodge aura 8% (equipment = boots, helm and 2 x RoKs) they hit 10 times per minute (average) which equates to 96% evasion In the second experiment, the total defence dex is 166 (+54 over the attack dex of the mob). Of the 166 dex, evasion parts make up 20% (2 x eva parts (10%), 2 x RoKS (2%) and Dodge (8%)). Yet the overall evasion rate is reduced by 3%. What is going on ???? 8~() Jac [/quote]
I always though bow dodge gave 10%, down from 15
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]I always though bow dodge gave 10%, down from 15[/quote]
"JAHEIRA"I always though bow dodge gave 10%, down from 15


I believe bow dodge is 8% and knuckle dodge is 10%
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[quote="HADOU"][quote="JAHEIRA"]I always though bow dodge gave 10%, down from 15[/quote] I believe bow dodge is 8% and knuckle dodge is 10%[/quote]
Bow Dodge is 8% - click F11 and look at "power" on dodge aura.

The +50 dex requirement over attack dex in the above experiments is a faulty premise.

I have a spreadsheet full of shit atm but I will get there .....

(with a little help!)

8)

Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]Bow Dodge is 8% - click F11 and look at "power" on dodge aura. The +50 dex requirement over attack dex in the above experiments is a faulty premise. I have a spreadsheet full of shit atm but I will get there ..... (with a little help!) 8) Jac[/quote]
Do another sample of experiment 3 on blg.
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]Do another sample of experiment 3 on blg. [/quote]
I have and it winds up poop ....

I cannot get 99% evasion with 20% evasion equipped ... but can get it with 24% evasion equipped.

I gained another 4.0 dex and tried again with 20% evasion and still got raped.

Can't figure that.

8(

Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]I have and it winds up poop .... I cannot get 99% evasion with 20% evasion equipped ... but can get it with 24% evasion equipped. I gained another 4.0 dex and tried again with 20% evasion and still got raped. Can't figure that. 8( Jac[/quote]
Found (Thank you Qiang) a post from the hallowed Finito on the subject;


AttackDex = dex + item dex
DefenseDex = target dex + target item dex
HitDex = AttackDex - DefenseDex
HitDex == 0 then HitRate = 50%
HitDex < -50 then HitRate = 20%

Every 1 dex above is +1% evasion until 99% (49 dex above is the maximum 99%).

Every 1 dex below is -1% evasion until 36% (stops at 14 dex below).

Every 2 dex below starting at 15 dex below is -1% evasion until 23% (stops at 42 dex below).

43 dex below is 23%
44 to 49 dex below is 21%
50+ dex below is 20%

After have got a HitRate from the above.

HitRate += Accuracy on items.
HitRate -= Target Evasion on items and evasion from aura.

HitRate is then kept within the bounds of 1% and 99%.


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[quote="JACKELPUP"]Found (Thank you Qiang) a post from the hallowed Finito on the subject; AttackDex = dex + item dex DefenseDex = target dex + target item dex HitDex = AttackDex - DefenseDex HitDex == 0 then HitRate = 50% HitDex < -50 then HitRate = 20% Every 1 dex above is +1% evasion until 99% (49 dex above is the maximum 99%). Every 1 dex below is -1% evasion until 36% (stops at 14 dex below). Every 2 dex below starting at 15 dex below is -1% evasion until 23% (stops at 42 dex below). 43 dex below is 23% 44 to 49 dex below is 21% 50+ dex below is 20% After have got a HitRate from the above. HitRate += Accuracy on items. HitRate -= Target Evasion on items and evasion from aura. HitRate is then kept within the bounds of 1% and 99%. [/quote]
And, not to be stopped there, the very same Mr Qiang valiantly undertook a most superb experiment;



Dex and evasion required based on gear.
3%set = need 50dex over + 8%bow
+2RoK's = need 44dex over + 8%bow

4%set = need 50dex over + 8%bow (dex capped at 80% +16% from set, +8% from bow = over 99%)
+2RoK's = need 30dex over + 8%bow

5%set = need 50dex over
+8% bow = need 30dex over
+2RoK's and 8%bow = need 20dex over

6%set = need 36dex over
+8% bow = need 22dex over
+2RoK's + 8%bow = need 10dex over

7%set = need 28dex over
+8%bow = need 14dex over
+2RoK's and +8%bow = need 5dex over

*The RoK's are based on the min evasion, you could run a few % less eva or dex and rely on the RoK's to max roll but i don't think its worth the damage you take having 96%(100%)-98%(50%)-99%(25%) instead of 99% constant.

There seems to be some form of rounding going on, so the numbers where it says needing between 14-42dex may be out by +/-1dex atm its a headache seeing what works on paper and in game testing be out of line ever so slightly.



8)

Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]And, not to be stopped there, the very same Mr Qiang valiantly undertook a most superb experiment; Dex and evasion required based on gear. 3%set = need 50dex over + 8%bow +2RoK's = need 44dex over + 8%bow 4%set = need 50dex over + 8%bow (dex capped at 80% +16% from set, +8% from bow = over 99%) +2RoK's = need 30dex over + 8%bow 5%set = need 50dex over +8% bow = need 30dex over +2RoK's and 8%bow = need 20dex over 6%set = need 36dex over +8% bow = need 22dex over +2RoK's + 8%bow = need 10dex over 7%set = need 28dex over +8%bow = need 14dex over +2RoK's and +8%bow = need 5dex over *The RoK's are based on the min evasion, you could run a few % less eva or dex and rely on the RoK's to max roll but i don't think its worth the damage you take having 96%(100%)-98%(50%)-99%(25%) instead of 99% constant. There seems to be some form of rounding going on, so the numbers where it says needing between 14-42dex may be out by +/-1dex atm its a headache seeing what works on paper and in game testing be out of line ever so slightly. 8) Jac[/quote]

 

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