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[quote="JACKELPUP"]Please could we have the range 1 magic attack of Magma's removed? I believe this will enable "all" characters of level 100+ to be able to hunt them without them being easy for any particular build. Fanks. 8) Jac[/quote]

[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]Nah the range 1 magic attack isn't the issue with mags at all. It's the 5th stone at range that's the pain, especially if you are melee. You have to just stand there getting attacked and there is nothing you can do about it apart from pot and wait for it to wear off. Moving between the mobs is a "knack" once you get it, its easy enough. I only have 120 int myself, so mines no where near most other peoples, and the int attack does hurt me. But it is managable[/quote]

[quote="FRINGE"]yea maybe change stone so it cant cast at range from magma. other than that i dont see any problem[/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]You're not right (sorry). Magma's were originally a mage mob and were changed so melee could attack them. However, with insufficient INT, you still get raped. STONING is fine if you are at range 1. It's what they do and , yes, it hurts. Being hit with INT if you are a melee fighter seems to be contra-intuitive. The high ATTACK and high DEX of the Magma ensures that only characters sufficiently well levelled stand a decent chance of being able to kill one. There is no "knack" for a low INT character to be able to kill them without having their arse handed to them. I have spent ages there on both Jac and Prowler trying to kill more than a few and it simply isn't possible. If Magma's are to be a true end game MOB (or level 100+) and especially if they are to undergo any drop changes (as appears to be being widely advocated) it is reasonable to enable all players over (say) level 100 to be able to have a fair crack at them. Yes, the STONE is a pain but it is what they do .... 8) Jac[/quote]

[quote="STORMHAVEN"]It's only you that has a problem. I've 0 int and ye they wreck but I still hunt them as do many other chars, instead of going for attack accs, use slow rings or whatever. I don't know why you keep banging on about asking for them to be changed when every other low int character hunts them bar you[/quote]

[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]I agree, stoning at range 1 is no problem at all. Stoning from range is my bug bare, if more than 1 mag is casting on me from range while stoned, I end up just letting myself die so as not to waste pots (I carry 20 Rez pots when hunting mags). The magic attack at range 1 really isn’t an issue. Just means you will actually have to use pots. I’ll kill on average 80-100 mags before I have to go get more pots. What gear are you wearing to hunt them? I wear attack neck and earring, dex rings, Titus pads and the rest is acc stuff with knucks 1st aura if that helps you out at all. Theory being the quicker I can kill them, the less chance of them casting magic attack. Been debating wearing nm set because at 196 str their melee swings don’t hurt, maybe that’s another idea for you jac?[/quote]

[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]In fact if you click on my toon, you can see exactly what I wear when hunting mags[/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="STORMHAVEN"]It's only you that has a problem.[/quote] Hardly :p [quote="STORMHAVEN"].. every other low int character hunts them .. [/quote] If that's true, there would be no harm removing the range 1 magic attack. Alex, I see you are wearing full attack/dex accessories. I also see you are using a super fast knuckle. Contrary to (some) people saying bow is over-powered, there are zero bows that fast. Neither do I have the str or attack you have. The best I have managed is 17 magmas before going back for more pots (130+ pots). If you can kill them fast I guess they hit you less and you can hunt more. Some of us cannot kill them fast and are prohibited from hunting them. All I am suggesting is "balance" for all level 100+ players. Jac[/quote]

[quote="STORMHAVEN"]I'm a low int char....[/quote]

[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]My knuck is average at best for a +5 at 517 recoil (under 500 is deemed as “good”)[/quote]

[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]Also bare in mind I have little reaction time when whelps spawn so die quite often due to that (swings and roundabouts) so have to run around with a tbow when moving about[/quote]

[quote="ISELIX"]If you can only kill 17 Magma Beast in 130 pots you are doing something wrong. Also, I carry 215 +100 pots why are you only carrying 130? I do think range stone and close-in magic attack should be changed but it will not so get over it and change your tactics. Zyar hunts Magma perfectly fine with 70-ish int BTW? Ask people for tips without raging at them you are doing something wrong. 7 pots per beast is like wayyyyy too much [/quote]

[quote="JACKELPUP"]130 pots because of bag weight. I haven't "raged". I have changed "tactics" numerous times as people say it is a "knack". I have tried different approaches. There is a petition to increase the drops for Magmas. I have tried to offer a solution which does not diminish the level of difficulty or experience in a manner that everyone benefits. I simply do not understand why people are against the suggestion citing "there's no problem anyway". If that were so, it would be no skin of anyone's teeth to remove the range 1 magic attack would it? I conceded a long time ago that I would not be able to hunt Magma's and put it down to simple character build. I am happy to leave it at that. However, to then make the Magma experience more desirable by having even more drops is hugely disparitive for those us of that cannot kill them. Jac[/quote]

[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]If you dont mind me asking, what str/dex/int do you have? I was always told that unless you have either 150 str or 150 int not to bother even trying. You're in DL, one of the 3 "big" guilds on the server. Why not see if someone wants to come along and hunt with you, then just /roll on drops (that's what me and mimmim used to do when he was in arcanix) I'm more than happy to come on a hunt with you (means I might be able to spot what you're "doing wrong" for a better term) Also why is you're bag weight so small? I have 1118 bag weight (Had all 3 srs and pots at 70 skill before i capped), so when i head to mags thats 20 rez scrolls, my gear, a t-bow (for whelps) and about 230 100hp pots Please don't take my comments as a negative, i'm trying to help :) [/quote]

[quote="STORMHAVEN"][quote="JACKELPUP"] I conceded a long time ago that I would not be able to hunt Magma's and put it down to simple character build. [/quote] Then you'd be wrong because plenty of 'no int' chars hunt them. You're the only one saying you can't kill them lol don't understand why it's so hard, take a couple of slow rings and a slow earring, if you have no int then you must have high dex in which case you can sacrifice dex accs or roks or whatever you use usually Ranged stone is the biggest issue which does my tits in but it is what it is, really don't understand why it's so difficult for you to hunt. [/quote]