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Unfortunatey, I haven't been able to attend them in sometime due to timing but I just want to put this out there.

I've never heard a human say anything positive about wotw. Since I came back I can count the amount of humans wins on one hand for a long while now. RvR is broken, both races can argue till the cows come home about why but the devil's have won what 14 weeks now if my calculations are right (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)? How can that possibly be fair that a single race can hold wotw for that long.

isylver and fin please look into what can be done about this, perhaps changing it so after x amount of weeks (perhaps 4) that the winning side drops to at least 50%.

Both races dicuss.

Every war I've been to if the humans turn up in force we get destroyed I didn't go tonight but looking at the percent I garunteed the humans didn't show in force if devils won.

I've said I won't say much any more as it just brings so much hate towards myself from the devils. But yes I agree with you. Over 3 months not been in conti. Unfair to say that the new items and other things we need conti for. But we are basically unable to get access to them. IMO just open the npcs and items to anyone not the owners of conti.

I won't complain to the Gms about any of this as they know my thoughts from the podcasts. And I'm also sure that Dan does no that something needs to be done and it's just time till.he can sort. So I wouldn't bother him too much but rest assured I'm sure he sees and knows that something needs to be done :)

Tom

Make the % effect dmg not just stats

Or make it possible to over 100%

Until humans can hurt devils with melee, it's going to be hard. I kinda leaned towards dex/str and don't really have much int. I could hurt devil players but I can't cast against them. When I'm hit I melt.

And like on every Soma server, ever - devils are organised and humans are not.

They care to win, CONTI is essential for them and a bonus for us.

I said it before the total % should stay 200% so humans should be at 135%. it would soon even itself out. at current devils only get 2.5% weaker and will continue to drop the max total % for wotw

it is based on damage it got altered in the patch last year I believe, I saw subxero in the safe zone for part of the war, fought him couple of times, but where was the humans at the end, its like you all wapred back to town with 5 mins to go, how can it be broken when non of you attend to actually fight for conti? My issue with capture the flag was you hiding the flag in the corner, I dont care that it was 10 vs me, its that you chose to make the war boring and hide the flag in the corner surrounded by all of you humans.

It’s always been the same, humans need to;

A. Turn up
B. Work together.

Niether of which happens

Can’t quote on my phone but in response to Arya , dl make up what 40% of hsoma population ? They all log on their devs for wotw so how are humans supposed to win if the majority of the hsoma user count are playing their devs... also take into consideration only people that can drop devs are mages

I’ve been to my fair share of wotw here’s what I understand:

Melee is useless
Only mages can drop Capped devs
Devs have more bag weight than humans so can stay at wotw longer without repotting
Dev mages seem to be the tankiest at wotw

Just my input

Main problem humans have is numbers atm due to DL playing Dsoma, we want Conti and show up with numbers. DL used to be the main consistent guild who would win for the Humans just look at Ganons rvr kills (ISylver told us, wasn't it 1k+?) I've never seen VK/espada/No_mercy turn up like they do at Gvw to wotw, that's why you don't win. Today at wotw humans were outnumbered 3:1 you can't expect to win with them numbers, nor would devils if we were that outnumbered.

Maybe create a blue spell what humans can get to lower devils defence so melee can do increased damage.

Also your mages like toxxxic etc 2 hit most devils with weaken , use your heads and get your evasion + dex access on and weaken for your mages.

Have missed the last few but from what i saw today. Sub or Cupid tanked alot of melee and did well. He couldnt win on his own though as the other 12-15 humans were just chilling in safe zone. Dsoma may be 3/4 different guilds but we are organised within those guilds and we are on discord calling names shouting for help etc. Dont think i saw a single human team up like a Ganon/Deathnote combo i have seen in previous weeks. Even i was taking damage from int today so imagine if some of those spells were targetting people with less than 220 magic defence instead of a mage =)
Much love

"DEAMOND"Can’t quote on my phone but in response to Arya , dl make up what 40% of hsoma population ? They all log on their devs for wotw so how are humans supposed to win if the majority of the hsoma user count are playing their devs... also take into consideration only people that can drop devs are mages

I’ve been to my fair share of wotw here’s what I understand:

Melee is useless
Only mages can drop Capped devs
Devs have more bag weight than humans so can stay at wotw longer without repotting
Dev mages seem to be the tankiest at wotw

Just my input

This

Isylver posted last night that there a rvr balance coming in the cap raise patch

I do what to see it more even, but the problem is soon as humans can fight 1v1 they will out number devils, we seen it loads of times when devil % gets low, humans turn up and completely wipe devils out

As for mages being the tankiest, get your melee chars on them instead of using int on them

Not to be negative but..
Tbh trying to balance the rvr will be one of the hardest things on soma. I don't know how many regular capped devs play but for instance if DL or vikings decide to log on their devils for ss/wotw for example that's humans potentially losing 20+ capped players ( most the best in game with the best gear). And dsoma gaining 20+ players. It's their choice but when this happens humans have 0% chance of winning anything.

In turn if both DL and vikings all turn up on their humans to fight devs at wotw then devils have no chance.

I can't see how this can be balanced. If you add more gameplay to hsoma then everyone will play hsoma with devils never winning anything. If you add more gameplay to dsoma then everyone will play devils.

That's the problem with having only a handful of guilds who have all the top players.

As mentioned DL were the ONLY guild to win conti for humans for a very long period of time! Just because our priorities have changed at the moment you cannot blame us for wanting dsoma to have conti.

Also as mentioned DL don’t make up 40% of the server. You have VK, Espada, Arcanix, Mistress which are all full guilds vs DL and a half full titans.

DL are organised when it comes to any form of PVP, that’s the reason we always do well vs humans or devils. All those high str / dex chars need to sacrifice trying to get kills to weaken for the mages. But none of you do that and this is where you are failing. Bring the same numbers to wotw as you do to the gvw and you’ll win with the current % system.

Unless humans work together properly that I think you are all being daft making these threads, you never saw DL feeling the need to make these threads when it was them vs devils, they dug deep worked hard and won. Try it some time :)