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FOXTRCK |
I think Magmas were designed to be a group hunting mob which brought a new concept to the game. Although certain people can solo them one after enough, its difficult.
Anyway, beyond the patch they will be a lot less used and take a lot of room in VoD. Will you recycle them? Make them still useful as a mob? I think the concept works although bow gets the benefit of being able to take down maybe 30% hp before they take a hit. (Quite an advantage over anything else). Anyway, if you could keep them somewhat useful for 90s-100s, and maybe still introduce a group hunting mob at cap?
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]I think Magmas were designed to be a group hunting mob which brought a new concept to the game. Although certain people can solo them one after enough, its difficult.
Anyway, beyond the patch they will be a lot less used and take a lot of room in VoD.
Will you recycle them? Make them still useful as a mob? I think the concept works although bow gets the benefit of being able to take down maybe 30% hp before they take a hit. (Quite an advantage over anything else).
Anyway, if you could keep them somewhat useful for 90s-100s, and maybe still introduce a group hunting mob at cap?
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#1 2018/08/08 17:38:38 |
ALEXISONFIRE |
Ranged has it easy there (archers and mages) because of the whelps and stone to be honest. Melee if stoned at range just have to stand there and take the damage (at least ranged can still attack).
Best one is with the stone you cant switch weapons, so if you;re stoned and a whelp spawns near you're dead as nothing you can do about it. That's the advantage, not the getting them down 30% before they hit you
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[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]Ranged has it easy there (archers and mages) because of the whelps and stone to be honest. Melee if stoned at range just have to stand there and take the damage (at least ranged can still attack).
Best one is with the stone you cant switch weapons, so if you;re stoned and a whelp spawns near you're dead as nothing you can do about it.
That's the advantage, not the getting them down 30% before they hit you[/quote]
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#2 2018/08/08 21:49:04 |
FOXTRCK |
Well in that case I would say 5th should be replacedwith 3rd for magma beast then :)
Although the intention was they were a group hunting mob im sure :o |
#3 2018/08/09 10:10:01 |
JACKELPUP |
I get sat on hard in the face when I "complain" (see various definitions of the word depending on who is using it) about the Magmas.
You are right they were initially a "group" mob to hunt. You are also right that "certain" people can solo them easily. I am delighted you have raised it because, up to that point, the "certain" people who find them easy (and farm them for masses of stuff) were making out "anyone" (and their sheep dog) could farm them. Which they can't. 8) Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]I get sat on hard in the face when I "complain" (see various definitions of the word depending on who is using it) about the Magmas.
You are right they were initially a "group" mob to hunt.
You are also right that "certain" people can solo them easily.
I am delighted you have raised it because, up to that point, the "certain" people who find them easy (and farm them for masses of stuff) were making out "anyone" (and their sheep dog) could farm them.
Which they can't.
8)
Jac
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#4 2018/08/09 10:19:34 |
FOXTRCK |
Boars is where its at anyway Jac. Its just that people are put off with their general difficuly and HP suck-a-thon
Its just that Magmas had a overall enhanced % drop rate to reward 'group' hunting. They still don't drop the current end game weapons tho :D |
#5 2018/08/09 10:29:03 |
JACKELPUP |
.... and they never should ....
8p Jac |
#6 2018/08/09 11:22:15 |
ALEXISONFIRE |
"FOXTRCK"Boars is where its at anyway Jac. Its just that people are put off with their general difficuly and HP suck-a-thon Again i'd disagree. Boars are more a dura drain than mags (only have to sr weapons when hunting mags and rarely access/arm). Also mags have a higher drop rate. For example my last hunt at mags i got 1 epic stinger 1 hard stinger 4 frogs 3 herbs 2 ep 1 CT 1 RDT 1 hard OTM At Boars you're lucky to maybe get a red PoD and a couple of RoK. So realistically people are more inclined to still hunt mags, then just buy Boar drops with tabs/toes etc...
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[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"][quote="FOXTRCK"]Boars is where its at anyway Jac. Its just that people are put off with their general difficuly and HP suck-a-thon
Its just that Magmas had a overall enhanced % drop rate to reward 'group' hunting.
They still don't drop the current end game weapons tho :D[/quote]
Again i'd disagree. Boars are more a dura drain than mags (only have to sr weapons when hunting mags and rarely access/arm).
Also mags have a higher drop rate. For example my last hunt at mags i got
1 epic stinger
1 hard stinger
4 frogs
3 herbs
2 ep
1 CT
1 RDT
1 hard OTM
At Boars you're lucky to maybe get a red PoD and a couple of RoK.
So realistically people are more inclined to still hunt mags, then just buy Boar drops with tabs/toes etc...[/quote]
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#7 2018/08/09 12:05:53 |
FOXTRCK |
Not disputing drop rates but I think it just depends what you are looking for :)
Anyway, boars for me are easier than mags. I imagine the same would apply to Prowler once he gets some str :P |
#8 2018/08/09 12:39:44 |
ALEXISONFIRE |
Oh boars are deffo easier to kill than mags.
But for the amount of time spent at boars vs mags, once capped you’re better of hunting mags |
#9 2018/08/09 13:04:49 |
TYRESE |
Jac I can’t quote you on my phone but I’m sick to death of you moaning about mags. You have more int than I do and I hunt them just fine using melee. You either need to watch how other people hunt them and learn or just shut up.
Fox isn’t moaning how they are used at the moment, which is what you always do. Get cracking.
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[quote="TYRESE"]Jac I can’t quote you on my phone but I’m sick to death of you moaning about mags. You have more int than I do and I hunt them just fine using melee. You either need to watch how other people hunt them and learn or just shut up.
Fox isn’t moaning how they are used at the moment, which is what you always do.
Get cracking.[/quote]
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#10 2018/08/09 13:27:47 |
JACKELPUP |
Mr Tyrese ....
Did you note that I referred to many different definitions of "complaining"? I have not "complained" about Magma's per se (I accept they can or cannot be hunted depending on the character build). I did take the opposite side of the fence when "some people" wanted the Magma drops to be enhanced. I considered that was exceptionally out of equilibrium. As for Fox's comments, I have not suggested he is "moaning" - I agreed with him. I see also that Alex has stated that he sees the boars as a dura drain - I assume you will agree that this is also a consequence of character build? He has also stated that the drop rate for boars is notably less than Magmas - I agree with that, I assume you do too? I wonder if you will also agree that the Magma drops are "better" than the Boars? (for clarity, I mean that the net trove of, say, 1000 kills is better from the magmas than it is from the boars) 8) Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]Mr Tyrese ....
Did you note that I referred to many different definitions of "complaining"?
I have not "complained" about Magma's per se (I accept they can or cannot be hunted depending on the character build).
I did take the opposite side of the fence when "some people" wanted the Magma drops to be enhanced. I considered that was exceptionally out of equilibrium.
As for Fox's comments, I have not suggested he is "moaning" - I agreed with him.
I see also that Alex has stated that he sees the boars as a dura drain - I assume you will agree that this is also a consequence of character build? He has also stated that the drop rate for boars is notably less than Magmas - I agree with that, I assume you do too?
I wonder if you will also agree that the Magma drops are "better" than the Boars? (for clarity, I mean that the net trove of, say, 1000 kills is better from the magmas than it is from the boars)
8)
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#11 2018/08/09 14:30:12 |
FOXTRCK |
I just want to see the magma concept re-used. It does work... I may not be able to hunt them efficiently but I am also building up a slow set to fix hunting better :P Altho its really intended for boars, itll help both
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#12 2018/08/09 14:34:06 |
MICKYC |
boar drop rate is terrible tbh
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#13 2018/08/09 14:37:49 |
CHOJINE |
Fox and Jac,we should.do a weekly mag hunt together for a few hours, i’ll Fry them with int ;p
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#14 2018/08/10 16:39:58 |
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