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[quote="CHOJINE"][quote="FOXTRCK"]You do know that most pvp is staged or premeditated right? If this was arena duel scores against any class and 1 v 1 it would mean something about classes. Your a tool to use that kind of comparison.[/quote] Fox gets what I mean ^ :P[/quote]

[quote="BENZYL"]Tongskie would have half the deaths if he had a half decent guild backing him.[/quote]

[quote="SAM0"][quote="FOXTRCK"]You do know that most pvp is staged or premeditated right? If this was arena duel scores against any class and 1 v 1 it would mean something about classes. Your a tool to use that kind of comparison.[/quote] Chojine: mages actually have a very hard time in pvp, If we could get a few hits off i'd be happy :P the int damage argument is moot, Open pvp is pretty much dead on arrival. He says mages have a very hard time in pvp, int damage argument is moot and open PvP is pretty much dead on arrival. yet i show the stats of 2 of the highest geared from both sides mage/melle (showing how well the mage does) and im the tool Try reading what he is saying before putting your tongue into his anus. It makes you look silly [/quote]

[quote="CHOJINE"]Ganon gained large swathes of the kills via sneaking up on ppl and inting whilst another char weakened. Sneak tactics are not open pvp dude. Either way our opinions don't matter, we'll get what we are given, but if it goes way tits up for mages i'll be hanging up Cho's hat lol I have carried on playing and tried to keep other mages chins up even though I know in reality it sucks, can't keep doing it to myself it takes a huge amount of dedication to play soma, to carry on knowing your build will never really be of use 1v1 is a hard ask. There are chars with crazily amazing gear that can 1v1 I agree, but a solo player plodding along will likely never attain that level of equipment, and it is ludicrous to aim for it tbh, spoke to a guy who went through 67 RDT's the other day to make 1 ring, the average solo player will likely never even see 67 RDT. It's one of those crossroads where on one shoulder the voice says 'stop moaning just play' and on the other shoulder the voice is saying 'but why when you can't realistically compete in a game designed around PvP.' May test mage out in PvP by going on a PK spree when PK is back up just to test it out, so anyone who I kill or die trying to kill please don't hold it against me >.<[/quote]

[quote="MINGEPIECE"]not with your 99 dex cho lmao xD[/quote]

[quote="MUSASJI"]All tactics still = PVP, maybe he’s just better at it. These arguments are so selective, I cba to even go into it. Everyone always goes on about 1 v 1, stood right in front of each other and never looks at it from a pragmatic point of view, then again they almost always have their own agenda - makes sense.[/quote]

[quote="FOXTRCK"]Its probably different in Dsoma, where its viable to pk 1v1, your user account lets that happen. In Hsoma, its all about a group fisting. Hsoma, you cant base views on mages KD ratio - Ganon probably got half of his kills set up for him, being a glass cannon. Whilst Tong allegedly abandons duels when he's about to lose. It's moronic to try and base the classes ability / effiency in PvP just by looking at K/D as though it actually has some meaning other than gloat rights?[/quote]

[quote="CHOJINE"]Had a moment yesterday, today is a new day, gonna pull my big boy socks up and go bow to get dex for pvp :P Will see what 200 int and rest pure dex results in :P[/quote]

[quote="MAVERICK"]Fox, each class has its own pro and con. Each pure class build is completely different. [/quote]

[quote="FOXTRCK"]Hey Mav, no problem with what you said. I do think trying to use KD as a means of measuring a class is just silly though. In Hsoma anyway. Devil Soma it may have a meaning, I don't know.[/quote]

[quote="ASBJORN"]Bring in the same aura dsoma has for mages, requirements are the new capped int and 180 staff skill And this is to cast it . Not just learn it It’s our choice then to stay this way and have this as our end game build [/quote]

[quote="TONGSKIE"][quote="FOXTRCK"]Its probably different in Dsoma, where its viable to pk 1v1, your user account lets that happen. In Hsoma, its all about a group fisting. Hsoma, you cant base views on mages KD ratio - Ganon probably got half of his kills set up for him, being a glass cannon. Whilst Tong allegedly abandons duels when he's about to lose. It's moronic to try and base the classes ability / effiency in PvP just by looking at K/D as though it actually has some meaning other than gloat rights?[/quote] Foxshit. Duels dont count in KD ratio FYI. Dont worry when pk is back i will boost my kills under your name. Stop mentioning my name if you cant say something nice. Just stfu![/quote]

[quote="SAM0"][quote="FOXTRCK"]Hey Mav, no problem with what you said. I do think trying to use KD as a means of measuring a class is just silly though. In Hsoma anyway. Devil Soma it may have a meaning, I don't know.[/quote] I'm agreed with mav each class does have its own pros and cons, mages suck pretty hard in 1v1 but excel in group PvP. (with someone to weaken for you a single proc on a DB can easily deal 80%+? HP to an archer build class - enough for whoever is weakening to land an aura at the same time and kill them) Chojines original posts were mainly about PvP, KD ratios are a showing of how many kills and deaths people get in PvP so no I don't think it's at all silly to use these to measure how well a class can do in PvP. Has nothing to do with Dsoma[/quote]