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[quote="NEOXIAN"]As carnage stated in another post somewhere the likelihood of anyone risking their top weapons to upgrade them is pretty minimal. The problem is, after altered beasts who have a very attractive drop rate of weapons you're extremely unlikely to get any. Altered beasts i hunted for 12 levels and probably got 3 epics, 60 rares and who knows how many hard/untag. Kharil Lizard i hunted for 13 levels and didn't get anything more than a couple of rares. it's time to bring up that subject again - can our top monster please drop top end weapons now please? war beast miners should drop some weapons so we can have at least a couple of weapons we can risk. I mean i'm sure people will be happy to start off just dropping 2h weapons and bow/knux ignoring 1h'ers but something just so high levels aren't hunting for absolutely no loot bar miner metal. anyway i hope you can think about reconsidering it now isylver. and maybe also use the BLG skin for wbm? :P[/quote]

[quote="IRNBRU"]Not saying the above shouldn't be be applied however the same applies to hsoma and blg. Would be nice if end mobs also drop end weaps in hsoma where iv personally not had my relevant weapon drop better than rare. [/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="IRNBRU"]Not saying the above shouldn't be be applied however the same applies to hsoma and blg. Would be nice if end mobs also drop end weaps in hsoma where iv personally not had my relevant weapon drop better than rare. [/quote] In HSoma it's nearly the same correct, but at the same time it's easier... as well as tougher to get your weapons. For instance, LB's drop massive amounts of weapons (compared to any other mob). But your top weapons are only available from Pamoth. In DSoma it's a matter of farming. Shironim drops our top weapons with junk on the side and our nearly top mobs drop weapons at a low rate. I don't think adding the last weapons to the top mob is the only solution. I'd like to challenge you to come up with something else that would do something similar.[/quote]

[quote="IRNBRU"]I like the fact our TOP weapons are from a boss that spawns every 4 days and is a challenge to get the item. I think it should stay that way. However your time at lbs is limited. The lb drops would be nice at blg since that is the str mob you hunt longest. Ie add hom ripper Apus rap ruby. The only way I will gain these weapons now is farming lb which is not something I want to do exp-wise. Ps not trying to derail to a hsoma dsoma comparison - just wanted to note its game wide rather than race. I do agree it's become more relevant to dsoma now that upgrades are available. [/quote]

[quote="LORDCOOS"]You can get apus/hom etc from drazil and lizmen as well remember.[/quote]

[quote="FLICKTHEBEAN"][quote="GHOSTLORD"] I don't think adding the last weapons to the top mob is the only solution. I'd like to challenge you to come up with something else that would do something similar.[/quote] Instances! (for both races) Requires a party of 5 to enter, multiple maps availible with same content, so multiple groups could be doing the same thing at once, no waiting list. Locked for 1 week for each of the people that enter in the group (flag). So once a week anyone that wants to try gets a shot at a few bosses can try along with their friends. (adjusted rates of drop) majority of the time this should net very little. Also so EXP is not wasted, the EXP should be little to none within the instance. So many things you can do with an instance, assuming it's not going to waste vast amounts of EXP, waves of monsters to fight through to reach bosses on different floors/maps tactical use of pots, healing etc. Ways I can see about doing it include: fight your way through all map bosses, e.g devil`s guard, terrasque, hartman, pamoth, and eventually gargoyle warrior, shironim and EDW. Or: different instances based on average level of the group. I'd like the first option better, more kills more chances, even if droprates are massively nerfed within, the chances are nice. Would require a fair bit of work to implement. The sheer number of players on this server would bring a good few more top teir weapons into game, assuming they make it that far! Dsoma I assume the trading of top-end weapons will happen more, Humans love to hoarde things they don't need. Alternate solution, much like the christmas present drops, halloween tokens etc, random chance of receiving a gambling pouch randomly 1/100,000 chance, probably even rarer, with chance to give a random item, with random tag, weapons or armours, majority of the time it'd be junk, but again, things would gradually get into game.[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]In DSoma it's a matter of farming. Shironim drops our top weapons with junk on the side and our nearly top mobs drop weapons at a low rate.[/quote] Shironim doesn't even drop all the weapons classes need either unless you're spear, knuckle or staff which only have one variant then you're okay. There are no swords of madness, grim bows or axe of annihilations so if you're past the point where these weapons drop then that's it you're done there's actually no way to get those three weapons unless you farm a lower mob and lets be honest no one is prepared to waste valuable exp doing that. [/quote]

[quote="IRNBRU"]Like flicks idea of the monster wave etc. A pve event where being in party is actually required would be nice. [/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"] [quote="GHOSTLORD"]In HSoma it's nearly the same correct, but at the same time it's easier... as well as tougher to get your weapons. For instance, LB's drop massive amounts of weapons (compared to any other mob). But your top weapons are only available from Pamoth.[/quote] People seem to think humans are swimming in epic/intense weapons (pamoth ones) when they clearly arent. I've killed way more pamoths than 95% of the server (Including Garps killed), and I have 1 epic pike, and a handful of rares, most of the time it drops hardened or untagged which are only worth vendoring (Except stingers and BWAs) I know there are a couple of epics out there, and i've not even heard of an intense pamoth weapon yet. Even rare weapons are extremely hard to get and the majority of the server dont have access to these On the note of LBs dropping massive amounts of weapons, I think most people would be lucky to get 2/3 epics and maybe 1 intense in the time they are there. Note people hunt LBs for a very short period of time before moving onto the next mob. I've been hunting BLG from before 100 str and will be doing so to cap, and havent seen a single weapon in that time, apart from Pamoth which nowadays seems to have about 20+ people at it, due to everyone knowing the respawn timer. I personally think there needs to be another way to obtain these weapons. [/quote]

[quote="ORANGE"]Just a thought: As there's talks about 5th becoming obtainable via PvE. What about having pos pouches that give items. Small pos pouch - 1kpos to buy, when used you will recieve one of the following: Dsoma: Cutthroat spear / Nightfall staff / Grim bow / KoH / AoA / SoM. Hsoma: LB weapon drops. Large pos pouch - 5k pos to buy, when used you will recieve one of the following. Dsoma: Shironim weapons. Hsoma: Pamoth weapons. When used, the weapon is a completely random tag. /Thoguhts[/quote]

[quote="HOJO"][quote="ORANGE"]Just a thought: As there's talks about 5th becoming obtainable via PvE. What about having pos pouches that give items. Small pos pouch - 1kpos to buy, when used you will recieve one of the following: Dsoma: Cutthroat spear / Nightfall staff / Grim bow / KoH / AoA / SoM. Hsoma: LB weapon drops. Large pos pouch - 5k pos to buy, when used you will recieve one of the following. Dsoma: Shironim weapons. Hsoma: Pamoth weapons. When used, the weapon is a completely random tag. /Thoguhts[/quote] I think your DSoma weaps are off, but I get the idea and I like the concept.[/quote]