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"NEOXIAN"So, archer as i stated can gain from any form of loot upgrade 10x more so than classes like axe and spear particularly from a barr perspective. I'm actually interested in what type of bonus you'd suggest that archers and knucklers wouldn't have a slight edge in benefitting from due to the nature of their classes, something that is not increased stat gains.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="NEOXIAN"]So, archer as i stated can gain from any form of loot upgrade 10x more so than classes like axe and spear particularly from a barr perspective.[/quote]
I'm actually interested in what type of bonus you'd suggest that archers and knucklers wouldn't have a slight edge in benefitting from due to the nature of their classes, something that is not increased stat gains.
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#31 2014/04/10 12:46:14 |
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GHOSTLORD |
"NEOXIAN""SLAYER"Neo what is this 100% evasion rubbish? lol Max evasion without straight out % evasion items is something like 70-80%. Having the same dex as a mob puts you on 50%.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="NEOXIAN"][quote="SLAYER"]Neo what is this 100% evasion rubbish? lol
1. They use magic and melee, the magic can't be evaded.
2. There is no such thing as 100% melee evasion on wbm.[/quote]
ok, lets not say 100% eva and say that a wbm hits 187 with melee nearly never when i hunt next to him so what his true eva figure is versus them with dodge up i've no idea but it's going to be pretty damn close to it. with epic sh, +4 dex rings i'm sure it's possible.
MD in full epic/intense diab and 95 wis means that damage is literally null and void.
So, archer as i stated can gain from any form of loot upgrade 10x more so than classes like axe and spear particularly from a barr perspective.[/quote]
Max evasion without straight out % evasion items is something like 70-80%. Having the same dex as a mob puts you on 50%.
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#32 2014/04/10 12:54:30 |
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IPHIOS |
From memory you needed 28% evasion in items before you could have 100% on anything in esoma.
You could get 100% with hallo pads only in esoma But yeah well done dsoma. Good turn out and deserved. |
#33 2014/04/10 13:39:12 |
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IPHIOS |
This includes dodge. - can't edit on phone ;o
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#34 2014/04/10 13:40:02 |
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IPHIOS |
This includes dodge. - can't edit on phone ;o
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#35 2014/04/10 13:42:04 |
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NEOXIAN |
isn't there a calculation for direct correlation between dex and eva?
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#36 2014/04/10 13:56:31 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
"NEOXIAN"isn't there a calculation for direct correlation between dex and eva? I don't think 100% evasion is possible, except maybe with eva gear. It caps at 99% I believe. The calculation is simple. Evasion% = YourDex - OpposingDex + 50. Acc/Eva/Dodge calculations are done after. As an example, WBM have 125 Offensive Dex, so you will need 175 Dex to achieve "100%" eva. With SH and Dex rings adding almost +10 DEX and Dodge Aura (knuckle) giving 10% eva, a Knuckler will need 155 dex to achieve "100%". 155 dex is easily achievable for a Devil Knuckler (I will have that around level 90).
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="NEOXIAN"]isn't there a calculation for direct correlation between dex and eva?[/quote]
I don't think 100% evasion is possible, except maybe with eva gear. It caps at 99% I believe.
The calculation is simple. Evasion% = YourDex - OpposingDex + 50. Acc/Eva/Dodge calculations are done after.
As an example, WBM have 125 Offensive Dex, so you will need 175 Dex to achieve "100%" eva.
With SH and Dex rings adding almost +10 DEX and Dodge Aura (knuckle) giving 10% eva, a Knuckler will need 155 dex to achieve "100%".
155 dex is easily achievable for a Devil Knuckler (I will have that around level 90).[/quote]
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#37 2014/04/10 14:15:42 |
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YOSHIMITSU |
5% evasion piece
hallo pads dodge hero boots Was minimum for 100% eva, without it you couldn't get '100%' it'd be capped at 99% |
#38 2014/04/10 14:39:33 |
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IPHIOS |
Was defo 28 in esoma. Boots dodge and halo pads were enough. I had 100% prior to making my Eva back then. Used to hunt dw with that topless and a sorc hat thinking I was cool when skilling bow!
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#39 2014/04/10 15:28:49 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
Remember dodge on here is also less than esoma.
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#40 2014/04/11 05:46:19 |
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IPHIOS |
Not tested but I assume it'd be the same figure of 28%.
Ie dodge boots 5% top helm and pads. |
#41 2014/04/11 06:11:16 |
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