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[quote="AFRO"]I think Negamare is an amazing addition.. how it forces you to interact with crystals and work as a team to attack. Unfortunately a lot of the time no one is bothering - I have wrote an essay around the issues but realised it is best to just add some feedback for improvements. 1) We require access to quick pot vendor - running to portal each time does not really work - we should be able to join the fun if we /nmjoin 2) Remove old weaps from the drop file - this boss is a beast and getting rare aoo after 45min killing is horrendous to the morale of the community. 3) Ideally make it so that at least 1 rare+ new weap drops 4) make boss weaker... a lot weaker. ideally how weak boss is should depend of how many players are attending negamare - so maybe make players decide whether they are attending negamare during t7 and lock them to a crystal room where they can repot and return? if they exit it then they should not be able to return? - this will give us some rough idea of how many players attending and boss should be weaker based on that - so even 2-3 players during crazy hours should have a chance to kill and enjoy the fun - without it taking 4h+ to die Let's keep it positive and get other's feedback. [/quote]

[quote="MICKYC"]some nice ideas[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]I can see where your coming from Afro, but how many players are 120 on dsoma? I think we ALL need to stop mentioning Negamare for a couple of weeks / months until the community cap or get close to the cap. Once people are there I have a feeling we shall see a difference with NM. When china have called their chars (jnjuny, china_007, clover, daboqian, doudoutang, sarin, vip) they will do exactly what they do now and farm that boss like they do every single other boss. I understand your all frustrated but think of it from Isyl / Fins perspective... they’ve put the effort in for this patch and new boss and all everyone has done is complain moan about how hard this new boss is. Well it’s a boss, it’s meant to be bloody hard![/quote]

[quote="EVIL_FOX"]I agree with Tyrese for the most part. One gentle change though that I think would encourage participation would be to make the T6 portal in each races home town - making the lead up to it a bit more... accessible and well known and encourage RvR. But then... Gorshak wasnt exactly in the easiest place, it was in the furthest. [/quote]

[quote="MERLIN"]I still believe it's just bad timing, If t8 fell at closer to 8pm rather than 10pm, i think more people would be about to join the fun, based on it taking 40+minutes to kill, I would think the usercount drops around 10-10.30? And as afro said, if you run out of pots it's a hell of a run to get back, 5mins + by the time you buy pots etc? Do that 2 or 3 times each boss and there is a huge chance you will be absent when it dies I like the thought of the /nmjoin option or something like that The boss itself should probably be left until people have capped The likes of gorshak dsoma side is doable solo A capped mage can kill tiresias solo in about 5 mins...[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]Fox +1, the portal being closer to a town would be perfect for reporting etc. More people would be willing to attend. Also merlin, raises a good point. Many of us have morning / day jobs we simply can’t stay up that late. If the server time could match the real time constantly even after reboots / crashes that might also help.[/quote]

[quote="SUBXERO"]I been thikning about this a lot... Yes its diffucult but the drops have been shocking i mean last 2 hsoma was rare pan and rare bsb for in all 2 hours work from prepping the raid to killing it. If the drops were like i said a few times a guarateed top lvl wep and a few tabs, and even make it so the last 3/4 hits get 1 item each (dont know if thats possible ) or even there is no last hit, the items stay fixed for say 5 seconds and its first to click it i.e a race to get back in the room, would make the end very exiting. And the Ads dropping small gems so even those lower lvls who spend the time atleast hopefully get soemthing I think this would make people actually do it even though it took so long to kill. [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I do think the whole ideal of Negamare is a brilliant concept, bringing team work into the equation and makes the new top boss have a different theme from the previous bosses, that being said the rewards don't really reflect the whole team spirit of the ideal of taking on the new top boss. From what I understand the hunting party is required to split up into 2 teams, one taking care of the minions/alts etc and the other team taking care of the boss. I think subxero's idea/point is within the whole spirit of the theme of the new boss "team work" so the rewards should reflect this team effort and by that, these minions/alts should drop something for the players that sacrifice not going after the boss, and those that do go after the boss take the risk that only one of them will get the drop. Negamare is the new top boss, as such it should really only be dropping the newest items and not old items that can be gained from other mobs.[/quote]

[quote="SUBXERO"]I recoded the last hsoma one here [url=https://youtu.be/7CF0402QjY4]https://youtu.be/7CF0402QjY4[/url] As you can see it was tongskies 5th sword that got last hit and it seems the high melle dmg are the ones getting it. Which i think for a boss like this it should be a shared drop as like raven said its all about team work you have to raid as a team You have to kill the Ads (which if you do you arnt hitting nega and wont get drop so people dont like to ) You have to kill the crystals etc i.e a lot of it involes not actually hitting nega to get to actualyl kill it I love the idea its utter genious and does make the server work as a team but i think a team reward would be even better can you imagine the comaradery after 20 of you do that and all get a little something each? Some more than other obvs. [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]maybe every attendee gets a 'negamare box' as a reward..which could contain anything random from the drop file..and u have to cash it in at some npc..a bit like the santa one. How u work out whether someones ''attended'' long enuf to deserve a box..is another matter. Im sure a guaranteed reward would have many more attending[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I totally agree with you subxero, Negamare is a genius concept from the gm's I think it's what soma has needed for a long time, a revamp to the way in dealing with bosses. It stops a hand full of players from being able to farm nonstop. Teamwork should be rewarded from this boss, otherwise players won't turn up.[/quote]

[quote="SUBXERO"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]I totally agree with you subxero, Negamare is a genius concept from the gm's I think it's what soma has needed for a long time, a revamp to the way in dealing with bosses. It stops a hand full of players from being able to farm nonstop. Teamwork should be rewarded from this boss, otherwise players won't turn up.[/quote] couldnt of put it better my self. [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="LUPISCUS"]maybe every attendee gets a 'negamare box' as a reward..which could contain anything random from the drop file..and u have to cash it in at some npc..a bit like the santa one. How u work out whether someones ''attended'' long enuf to deserve a box..is another matter. Im sure a guaranteed reward would have many more attending[/quote] like this .. well.. id turn up for summat guaranteed.. 20 to 1 odds wotever they are to get a drop.. is tough work for 2 hours .. Tho when more ppl are lev 120 mayb its a lot easier... who knows ;p I do agree..it cant be made easy for 3-4-5 ppl to do.. or we all kno whos gona be farming it 24 hours a day 7 days a week[/quote]

[quote="SLAYER"]I agree with Afro, but also...maybe we shouldn't be comparing hsoma to dsoma in this instance, both due to a smaller community and lack of chinese farmers like you have on hsoma (I'm just going by whats been said in here)...the koreans on dsoma farm for themselves as far as i'm aware so it wouldn't be a problem dsoma side. [/quote]