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[quote="NITE"]Ok so for the majority of the items that are available to be "dropped" are decent end game items. But let me point out a few that should not be in the files at all and I will also explain why and offer an alternative drop. Ok so since I'm a mage I will start with the Necro wasp drops that should not be in it. [img]https://i.imgur.com/xJ15VAa.jpg[/img] Now If I'm being honest the last time I was hyped about getting a GTR drop was about 4 years ago. Now for me and everyone else that hunts Necro Wasps this item is useless and also worthless, There is no reason for me to pick it up even if an Intense drops because I already have 2 of those that have no use to me other than to sell for maybe 2 frogs. The reason I think why this item shouldn't be in the drop file because it's not up to tier with the mob. It's an useless drop that we all feels gutted when it drops and it even has next to zero Value. [img]https://i.imgur.com/k9vYyiX.jpg[/img] Which brngs me to this one, Now again I must say that I haven't use a Shironim Wand since I could use an Azure. I actually own an [Intense] Shiro that I have put together from many hardened and rare Shiro Wands. I also Believe that no one would really pick these ups because we have no use for them other than to combine to make an Intense and perhaps sell the intense for something at least but I'm sure many mages and I agree that this drop also serves no purpose in an END GAME MOB. [img]https://i.imgur.com/o2I5OpQ.jpg[/img] Now these two I would like to cover together. For the Erratic Rings I have to say I and many other mages that hunt wasps do not pick these up no matter the tag, because to be honest we all have like 100s of them from Valks. Now for them to be introduced to the wasps drop file I feel like it's a bit unnecessary as they also have zero value and we already have a ton of them from valks. For the healing rings 3, I think this item is a bit weird, I saw that Negamare also drops it and I would probably log off the game if I actually managed to kill Negamare (CONSIDERING ITS INSANE INT) and it dropped me a rare healing ring 3. I feel like this item no one will ever use, which means it serves no purpose in the drop file of Necro wasps let alone Negamare. And to be honest it's pretty much the same issue I have, the item has no value and no one uses it which means if I see one I will leave it regardless of the tag also, now if the ring had 2000 Dura and the Weight wasn't 30!!!!??? then I would probably pick them up to add CTS to them (because of the higher dura they would offer me). [b]Solutions ; [/b] I think that Instead of these Items. Wasps should drop Hellish vials, Burning Vials, Titus Scale Armour for Male and Female of course, Frogs, Pods. And I will also like to point out that Hellish Trolls drop file = 47 Items vs Necro Wasp drop file = 36 I have looked over the Hellish troll drop file and to be honest everything looks okay, I think that most people would argue that they shouldn't drop tier 3 weps but in my opinion I think that those Items could all be combined to make Intense weps and those intense weps are as good as tier 2. Maybe the only Items I would question on that drop file are the mage proc ones (CONFUSE CHOKER 3 , SLOW CHOKER 3, FLAME EARRING 3) but then again these items have value and I would pick them up if I was a warrior. [img]https://i.imgur.com/hpTbwdp.jpg[/img] Thank you for reading and I hope everyone keeps the thread constructive with intelligent ideas :)[/quote]

[quote="ROCKY1"]Burning and hellish vial added to wasps drop file would definitely be appreciated especially as melle have them at boars and trolls. If the reasoning behind having mobs dropping relevant items for the opposite builds is to maybe promote trade and economy then int mobs could drop mare's blood or nahwans?? I don't believe this is the reasoning though. Would love to see titus at wasps - useful and sought after items for all not just melle. In my opinion Int should have all tier 2 weps the same as melle - int will have gtr or shiro drop and we'll leave them on the floor, azure will drop and we'll combine til we get intense (i've had 5-6 tagged azures in 12 int so far) and that's pretty much it, but unless you get intense (i've not been lucky yet) you're never left with any weps to trade. Then you have Melle who have such a variety of tier 2 and 3 weapons dropping on their hunts that they can then use to trade and be part of the economy, just doesn't seem very balanced to me. Well i've filled my quota of 1 message on the forum every 6 months. Cheers. [/quote]

[quote="M_GORMLEY"]Agree 100% if there were more mages in game there would be uproar on this. It seems all through the history of soma Mage mobs have horrible drop lists.. guess we are just keeping the tradition going[/quote]

[quote="MALYCON"]I like erratic rings dropping, will use them as a farming item to save special repairs at mags/wasps at cap. If the functionality of healing ring 3 was changed it would be better. 10% chance to cast healing wind instead of healing an enemy? Be nice to have the option to be different types of support characters too.[/quote]

[quote="NITE"]@Maly a support char would only work if mages didn’t get interrupted while casting which is a whole other problem in which I think 4th staff aura should be added to HSoma but that’s for another thread haha. I agree about the erratic rings, I have many stashed away from my Valk hunts for the same purpose. But I do think they should stay at valks which would make you hunt them for the rings. And as for the healing rings 3 I imagined they’d proc on heal which would mean you can heal someone twice but it didnt seem to work like that as we tested it in the arena. I am all for the idea of a support type character but what would be it’s stats? 200 int and rest on dex so you can cast? With 7 7 7 11 and +8 dex access? 😂 which means I’d have to heal to 100 then start hunting from that point and once I get to 200 int start the dex process doing the +50 stat gain thing which would take an eternity and would be a very very long process that brings me to the question if it would be worth it at all? I’d be easier to make a no INT archer and stop mages casting and wear full eva so melees can’t hit you. I don’t want to keep rambling about this but it is sad that the mage uc for hsoma is below 10 (active) (me, Maly, rocky, devilmadecry, yomi, Octavia). I am sorry if I have missed you but that’s all I’ve seen online and I play quite a bit. [/quote]

[quote="NITE"]And just to be clearer these are the following Items I believe deserve to be added to Necro Wasps [img]https://i.imgur.com/m2uJWqL.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/axH1L2V.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/jm387vK.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/9LpDy2A.jpg[/img][/quote]

[quote="EVIL_FOX"]Looks like it would be good to remove GTR drops here and make them a bit rarer.[/quote]

[quote="NITE"][quote="ISYLVER"]Necro Wasp drop files updated.[/quote] Thanks a lot Dan It's a great help for us mages still playing. But let me explain the reasoning behind taking out the gtrs and shiros; these were based on their value compared to the rest of the drop file and on top of the comparison to the Hellish Troll Drop file. And also how they feel out of place on an end game INT mob. If we look at the Hellish Drop file we can see that all of the drops are "pick up" worthy, Unless you get unlucky and you get an untagged wep. And in the other hand we have the Necro Wasp drop file. Like Rocky pointed out we only have staffs as weapons and we only pick up Azures to Combine and the rest (gts and shiros) is relatively worthless. Which is why he mentioned the unbalance. Which brings me to the conclusion that at Necro wasps mages only pick up 90% of the drops on that drop file whereas Warriors pick up 98 or 99% of the drop file Oh and I added frogs there because we haven't seen them since nightmares and there's a lack of frogs in the economy right now.[/quote]

[quote="NITE"][b]Also uhmmmm what is this!!! [/b] [img]https://i.imgur.com/KBV9bTQ.jpg[/img] [/quote]

[quote="M_GORMLEY"]Thanks Dan, He did mention he was working on an upgrade for staff MA so could be related.. :)[/quote]

[quote="NITE"]Poggerz [/quote]

[quote="DEAMOND"][quote="NITE"][b]Also uhmmmm what is this!!! [/b] [img]https://i.imgur.com/KBV9bTQ.jpg[/img] [/quote] Dan's just calling you a pain :P ahaha [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="DEAMOND"][quote="NITE"][b]Also uhmmmm what is this!!! [/b] [img]https://i.imgur.com/KBV9bTQ.jpg[/img] [/quote] Dan's just calling you a pain :P ahaha [/quote] Should be honoured u have an item named after you tbh ;p[/quote]