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ARIL |
Can we have it too please? Our diamonds are useless :/
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#1 2018/12/04 18:37:03 |
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SOMAWIZARD |
If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight.
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#2 2018/12/04 19:55:31 |
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ARYA_ |
"SOMAWIZARD"If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight. This is clearly not true anymore, humans have the same str asnearly as much dex withmore int then all melee devs, the only dev class that still is viable is archer, the rest of the classes are pointless.
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[quote="ARYA_"][quote="SOMAWIZARD"]If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight.[/quote]
This is clearly not true anymore, humans have the same str asnearly as much dex withmore int then all melee devs, the only dev class that still is viable is archer, the rest of the classes are pointless.
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#3 2018/12/04 20:12:17 |
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SOMAWIZARD |
"ARYA_""SOMAWIZARD"If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight. What stats can each class on dsoma expect to get capped now then? Humans have to sacrifice dex for str. We can not cap str (238?) unless we do like 10 lvls of pure axe post 110 and have much lower dex (close to 110 chars) not many would be sane enough to do this. Of course you can get a balance about 20 of each or somewhere in between but is that really enough to make any difference to devils if they also get an additional 10 levels to gain stats?
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[quote="SOMAWIZARD"][quote="ARYA_"][quote="SOMAWIZARD"]If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight.[/quote]
This is clearly not true anymore, humans have the same str asnearly as much dex withmore int then all melee devs, the only dev class that still is viable is archer, the rest of the classes are pointless.
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What stats can each class on dsoma expect to get capped now then?
Humans have to sacrifice dex for str. We can not cap str (238?) unless we do like 10 lvls of pure axe post 110 and have much lower dex (close to 110 chars) not many would be sane enough to do this. Of course you can get a balance about 20 of each or somewhere in between but is that really enough to make any difference to devils if they also get an additional 10 levels to gain stats?[/quote]
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#4 2018/12/04 21:38:06 |
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SH1VS |
"SOMAWIZARD"If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight. I don't think anyone can complain about rvr when nobody even turns up, last week was amazing 30+ humans was really fun, this week a solid 3..... People need to start turning up to rvr before any balance can be implemented.
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[quote="SH1VS"][quote="SOMAWIZARD"]If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight.[/quote]
I don't think anyone can complain about rvr when nobody even turns up, last week was amazing 30+ humans was really fun, this week a solid 3..... People need to start turning up to rvr before any balance can be implemented.[/quote]
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#5 2018/12/04 22:06:39 |
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SOMAWIZARD |
True I do agree that we need to have more wotws to get a real picture of what the patch has done for both sides. That probably won't happen for a little while yet untill more humans cap.
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#6 2018/12/04 22:18:48 |
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"ARYA_""SOMAWIZARD"If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight. What are you smoking? No human has the stats anywhere near a devils with the exception that a 120 char has similar str to an archer with 40+ dex less. Humans with these kind of stats also have less MD than any devil char at 120. This is all irrelevant to balance but SS for DSoma would be a terrible idea.
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[quote="SPELUNK"][quote="ARYA_"][quote="SOMAWIZARD"]If devils got SS humans would be massacred to be point where what little RvR exists atm would vanish because no human would even attempt to fight.[/quote]
This is clearly not true anymore, humans have the same str asnearly as much dex withmore int then all melee devs, the only dev class that still is viable is archer, the rest of the classes are pointless.
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What are you smoking? No human has the stats anywhere near a devils with the exception that a 120 char has similar str to an archer with 40+ dex less. Humans with these kind of stats also have less MD than any devil char at 120.
This is all irrelevant to balance but SS for DSoma would be a terrible idea.[/quote]
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#7 2018/12/04 23:03:32 |
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AFRO |
I do imagine how nice it would be to have 400 recoil spear poking people but personally don't think we need it and more humans will complain, more dsoma mages will complain, more archers will be OP.
I am no soma expert, aside from my nooby esoma days I have only been playing soma since June last year so this is just my opinion. Going off topic slightly - what do people expect rvr to be? humans only seem to attend when % massively in their favor. Are humans expecting to 1 v 1 a devil? I understand melee humans currently do not do massive damage to devils but that's just a subset of the players who choose pure melee option. As a devil whenever I use to hunt in conti I would be in alert mode because you had Chewie and Papapilas constantly entering and clearing out devil players. Even as a capped devil a combination of Shailo and Papapilas in the past raiding devil conti left me running the opposite direction as magic and stone combo is too powerful. If humans want to do serious fun in rvr - have more than 50-100int from healing.. if you commit to around 150 you can start to be a big threat. If human want to tank devils then go for your 230ish str Even with some dex/eva you can have a little fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpAN2C7TbW4 - this is last wotw when there was around 5 humans (the axer is level 100) The new hsoma weaps are too deadly and IMO SS should not work on them a +8 epic-intense horned bow will cause a lot of problems.
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[quote="AFRO"]I do imagine how nice it would be to have 400 recoil spear poking people but personally don't think we need it and more humans will complain, more dsoma mages will complain, more archers will be OP.
I am no soma expert, aside from my nooby esoma days I have only been playing soma since June last year so this is just my opinion.
Going off topic slightly - what do people expect rvr to be? humans only seem to attend when % massively in their favor. Are humans expecting to 1 v 1 a devil? I understand melee humans currently do not do massive damage to devils but that's just a subset of the players who choose pure melee option. As a devil whenever I use to hunt in conti I would be in alert mode because you had Chewie and Papapilas constantly entering and clearing out devil players. Even as a capped devil a combination of Shailo and Papapilas in the past raiding devil conti left me running the opposite direction as magic and stone combo is too powerful.
If humans want to do serious fun in rvr - have more than 50-100int from healing.. if you commit to around 150 you can start to be a big threat.
If human want to tank devils then go for your 230ish str
Even with some dex/eva you can have a little fun
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpAN2C7TbW4[/url] - this is last wotw when there was around 5 humans (the axer is level 100)
The new hsoma weaps are too deadly and IMO SS should not work on them a +8 epic-intense horned bow will cause a lot of problems.[/quote]
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#8 2018/12/05 06:54:12 |
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DEAMOND |
"AFRO"I do imagine how nice it would be to have 400 recoil spear poking people but personally don't think we need it and more humans will complain, more dsoma mages will complain, more archers will be OP. Is nitefall capped? You have an insane amount of dex on dare lol! imo devs only worry about mages ;p I've yet to go to a wotw though as still far from cap
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[quote="DEAMOND"][quote="AFRO"]I do imagine how nice it would be to have 400 recoil spear poking people but personally don't think we need it and more humans will complain, more dsoma mages will complain, more archers will be OP.
I am no soma expert, aside from my nooby esoma days I have only been playing soma since June last year so this is just my opinion.
Going off topic slightly - what do people expect rvr to be? humans only seem to attend when % massively in their favor. Are humans expecting to 1 v 1 a devil? I understand melee humans currently do not do massive damage to devils but that's just a subset of the players who choose pure melee option. As a devil whenever I use to hunt in conti I would be in alert mode because you had Chewie and Papapilas constantly entering and clearing out devil players. Even as a capped devil a combination of Shailo and Papapilas in the past raiding devil conti left me running the opposite direction as magic and stone combo is too powerful.
If humans want to do serious fun in rvr - have more than 50-100int from healing.. if you commit to around 150 you can start to be a big threat.
If human want to tank devils then go for your 230ish str
Even with some dex/eva you can have a little fun
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpAN2C7TbW4[/url] - this is last wotw when there was around 5 humans (the axer is level 100)
The new hsoma weaps are too deadly and IMO SS should not work on them a +8 epic-intense horned bow will cause a lot of problems.[/quote]
Is nitefall capped? You have an insane amount of dex on dare lol! imo devs only worry about mages ;p I've yet to go to a wotw though as still far from cap [/quote]
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#9 2018/12/05 10:14:56 |
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SH1VS |
I think humans are expecting to 1v1 devils and win before the turn up, 600recoil bows all inted up, there was a 5% difference in str for 25+ change in hsoma turn out.
If them numbers turned up that did last week I bet devils would not win until we're back up at 75-80% effectiveness. I think wotw is the best event (I don't bother with gv) I turn up regardless of dsoma % I get disheartened when I get 1 shot by hsoma mages but still turn up, I think humans need to take that mentality that pos doesn't exactly count for anything at this point in the game and it's a bit of fun with no seriousness behind it.
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[quote="SH1VS"]I think humans are expecting to 1v1 devils and win before the turn up, 600recoil bows all inted up, there was a 5% difference in str for 25+ change in hsoma turn out.
If them numbers turned up that did last week I bet devils would not win until we're back up at 75-80% effectiveness.
I think wotw is the best event (I don't bother with gv) I turn up regardless of dsoma % I get disheartened when I get 1 shot by hsoma mages but still turn up, I think humans need to take that mentality that pos doesn't exactly count for anything at this point in the game and it's a bit of fun with no seriousness behind it.[/quote]
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#10 2018/12/05 10:18:21 |
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If humans turned up to the last WOTW like they did the one before it, we would’ve most likely smashed the devil’s - but instead probably 10 humans came in total, maybe 1/2 at a time and left.
Hsoma don’t seem bothered about owning Conti as it currently is, maybe it needs to be made more lucrative. I would suggest 5/10 boss spawns 10 mins after WOTW for the winning side/new high end mobs that give XP 10% faster on top of the 10% gained from owning conti, and maybe a slight increase in drop rate there too. If humans actually show up it’s a good fight, devils are OP in aspects, but so are humans in others.
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[quote="DR_EVIL"]If humans turned up to the last WOTW like they did the one before it, we would’ve most likely smashed the devil’s - but instead probably 10 humans came in total, maybe 1/2 at a time and left.
Hsoma don’t seem bothered about owning Conti as it currently is, maybe it needs to be made more lucrative. I would suggest 5/10 boss spawns 10 mins after WOTW for the winning side/new high end mobs that give XP 10% faster on top of the 10% gained from owning conti, and maybe a slight increase in drop rate there too.
If humans actually show up it’s a good fight, devils are OP in aspects, but so are humans in others.[/quote]
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#11 2018/12/05 10:29:11 |
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DIOS |
230str is not possible even at pure axe 110-120
Devil SS would ruin the pvp more... |
#12 2018/12/05 10:43:33 |
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UPPPPPPPZ |
Dios people have 200 int/200 str at 110, how on earth could pure axe not go to 230?
I do agree devil SS would ruin RvR though. Edit: wrong account lol. |
#13 2018/12/05 10:47:40 |
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RAMYREZ |
Having played both sides I can say devils are not OP, rather it is humans that are pussies.
There were 6 humans (maybe 7) in the last WotW, compared to the 30-ish the one before. All because of a 5% difference? lol My devil characters are: @Jaragoondoo and @Arrow
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[quote="RAMYREZ"]Having played both sides I can say devils are not OP, rather it is humans that are pussies.
There were 6 humans (maybe 7) in the last WotW, compared to the 30-ish the one before. All because of a 5% difference? lol
My devil characters are: @Jaragoondoo and @Arrow[/quote]
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#14 2018/12/05 10:56:14 |
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ss would be totally broken
but then i think it breaks hsoma too no weap should be the speed the top hsoma ones are i have 202con and jnjuny rips through me in full invul, so many other humans could do the same they just dont turn up maybe put the new mobs in conti?
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[quote="MERLIN"]ss would be totally broken
but then i think it breaks hsoma too
no weap should be the speed the top hsoma ones are
i have 202con and jnjuny rips through me in full invul, so many other humans could do the same they just dont turn up
maybe put the new mobs in conti?[/quote]
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#15 2018/12/05 11:01:59 |
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