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Bollocks.
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[quote="PROWLER"]Bollocks.[/quote]
Jesus Christ Jac, just admit that you’re wrong for a change and stop being a stubborn arse.

Because you lack the skills to efficiently hunt mags doesn’t mean it can’t be done effectively.

Train jackelpups int and use him to farm mags if you’re that bothered.
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[quote="TYRESE"]Jesus Christ Jac, just admit that you’re wrong for a change and stop being a stubborn arse. Because you lack the skills to efficiently hunt mags doesn’t mean it can’t be done effectively. Train jackelpups int and use him to farm mags if you’re that bothered.[/quote]
I have repeatedly stated I cannot hunt Magmas.

I am happy to accept that I lack the "skills" to do so.

Many suggestions have been made as to how they can be done solo (as melee with effectively no INT) but NONE have been effective, In each case, the reason is simply that INT on my character is too low. Lupi's post is the most sensible and I followed his advice (on the last attempt). I still can't get near to the same number of kills before I have to return for pots. Sure, they can be hunted but so ineffectively that snow will appear inside the Infernal Caves before any form of success can be measured.

Approaching a Magma (in whatever manner as there have been numerous lures suggested) virtually always triggers a ranged magic attack. Once "up close and personal" further range 1 magic attacks are common. With virtually no INT this causes an arse rape and depletes pots at a significantly alarming rate. Far faster than anything so far suggested.

My best efforts yield less than half that of Lupi's example on the previous page.

Shout "incompetence" at me as much as you like but don't lose sight of the fact that you have twice (in this thread) told me to go and get more INT and also told me I cannot successfully target Magma's because of my choice of character build (all of which I accepted).

Lastly, if Zyar has killed 50000+ you have to ask your self why he bothered doing that ... was it because the drops were crap? Or could it be because the drops are exceptionally generous?

(Most) high level players are now able to abuse the Magmas for their hugely enhanced drop rates (I use "abuse" since these same players would not have been able to do this at level 100) whilst some of us cannot. To ask for the drops (and other mobs in lieu) to now be increased is utterly ridiculous and a clear abuse of something that was given to us by the GMs to "keep us going" at level 100 when the cap could not be raised.

Jac
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[quote="PROWLER"]I have repeatedly stated I cannot hunt Magmas. I am happy to accept that I lack the "skills" to do so. Many suggestions have been made as to how they can be done solo (as melee with effectively no INT) but NONE have been effective, In each case, the reason is simply that INT on my character is too low. Lupi's post is the most sensible and I followed his advice (on the last attempt). I still can't get near to the same number of kills before I have to return for pots. Sure, they can be hunted but so ineffectively that snow will appear inside the Infernal Caves before any form of success can be measured. Approaching a Magma (in whatever manner as there have been numerous lures suggested) virtually always triggers a ranged magic attack. Once "up close and personal" further range 1 magic attacks are common. With virtually no INT this causes an arse rape and depletes pots at a significantly alarming rate. Far faster than anything so far suggested. My best efforts yield less than half that of Lupi's example on the previous page. Shout "incompetence" at me as much as you like but don't lose sight of the fact that you have twice (in this thread) told me to go and get more INT and also told me I cannot successfully target Magma's because of my choice of character build (all of which I accepted). Lastly, if Zyar has killed 50000+ you have to ask your self why he bothered doing that ... was it because the drops were crap? Or could it be because the drops are exceptionally generous? (Most) high level players are now able to abuse the Magmas for their hugely enhanced drop rates (I use "abuse" since these same players would not have been able to do this at level 100) whilst some of us cannot. To ask for the drops (and other mobs in lieu) to now be increased is utterly ridiculous and a clear abuse of something that was given to us by the GMs to "keep us going" at level 100 when the cap could not be raised. Jac[/quote]
Besides from that, if there's hardly any mages nobody buys proc or ma bits and mags only drop 4 tabs and u can't make anything out of pikes,sb, hoards stingers sometimes but ain't worth grafting for 3 hours to get a hard end stinget that won't sell for 5 frogs....

Like mags was supposed to be end game farming mob and times have changed theirs 2 different tier weps ahead than what it drops , and since nega drop's new weps I think mags or higher tier of mags that drops shak weps elsewhere will also give mages a better chance and improve trading :/

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[quote="GLAZE"]Besides from that, if there's hardly any mages nobody buys proc or ma bits and mags only drop 4 tabs and u can't make anything out of pikes,sb, hoards stingers sometimes but ain't worth grafting for 3 hours to get a hard end stinget that won't sell for 5 frogs.... Like mags was supposed to be end game farming mob and times have changed theirs 2 different tier weps ahead than what it drops , and since nega drop's new weps I think mags or higher tier of mags that drops shak weps elsewhere will also give mages a better chance and improve trading :/ [/quote]
Shut up jac - you’re drunk!

There’s no reason you can’t heal for heal which won’t affect your preferred build at all - the fact you don’t is pure stupidity.
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[quote="TYRESE"]Shut up jac - you’re drunk! There’s no reason you can’t heal for heal which won’t affect your preferred build at all - the fact you don’t is pure stupidity.[/quote]
"TYRESE"Shut up jac - you’re drunk!

There’s no reason you can’t heal for heal which won’t affect your preferred build at all - the fact you don’t is pure stupidity.



I'm capped ... does that preclude healing for INT ?

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[quote="PROWLER"][quote="TYRESE"]Shut up jac - you’re drunk! There’s no reason you can’t heal for heal which won’t affect your preferred build at all - the fact you don’t is pure stupidity.[/quote] I'm capped ... does that preclude healing for INT ? [/quote]
i dont understand how one person can level two absolutely useless characters

my only advice to you...

...only try mags when we have conti. save 4th for whelps, and use massive amounts of slow-proc.

carry as many pots as possible.. personally i take 235 +100 hp

conti spawn is much, much easier to control and is generally x10 better than vod

and 50,000+ magmas was a typo, i meant to say 10,000+ ((early in the am and i mashed the num keys)) :P
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[quote="ISELIX"]i dont understand how one person can level two absolutely useless characters my only advice to you... ...only try mags when we have conti. save 4th for whelps, and use massive amounts of slow-proc. carry as many pots as possible.. personally i take 235 +100 hp conti spawn is much, much easier to control and is generally x10 better than vod and 50,000+ magmas was a typo, i meant to say 10,000+ ((early in the am and i mashed the num keys)) :P[/quote]
Well there is no helping you then jackel, it’s free stats I don’t understand why you didn’t just leave 0.05% for healing?....
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[quote="TYRESE"]Well there is no helping you then jackel, it’s free stats I don’t understand why you didn’t just leave 0.05% for healing?....[/quote]
@jac no idea what str u finished with... but mayb not enough str and low attack is preventing qwik kills of the mags.. If your capped now, u gona have to wait for the next cap and gain more str or int.. mayb..
Otherwise..do some int on jac.... :)
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]@jac no idea what str u finished with... but mayb not enough str and low attack is preventing qwik kills of the mags.. If your capped now, u gona have to wait for the next cap and gain more str or int.. mayb.. Otherwise..do some int on jac.... :)[/quote]
So, finally, full admissions that INT is the problem .....

Precisely what I have been saying the whole time.

Lupi, speed isn't the issue ... I get hit with magic attack (virtually) every time I approach the mob. (I have tried everyone's suggestions)

Tyrese, I considered leaving 0.05% (or thereabouts) but decided I didn't want to spend weeks clicking buttons in TYT. I don't have enough time spare for that kind of commitment.

Jac
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[quote="PROWLER"]So, finally, full admissions that INT is the problem ..... Precisely what I have been saying the whole time. Lupi, speed isn't the issue ... I get hit with magic attack (virtually) every time I approach the mob. (I have tried everyone's suggestions) Tyrese, I considered leaving 0.05% (or thereabouts) but decided I didn't want to spend weeks clicking buttons in TYT. I don't have enough time spare for that kind of commitment. Jac[/quote]
Listen - int isn’t the problem. You are the problem... you set your char up for this and you alone.

You have two characters yet won’t use one as a mag char. You’re meant to be clever and honestly you’re being so stupid about all this.

You keep saying int this int that but it’s ALWAYS BEEN THERE so why didn’t you do what we all have and build for it?

Is amoeba can manage with tiny int so can you.
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[quote="TYRESE"]Listen - int isn’t the problem. You are the problem... you set your char up for this and you alone. You have two characters yet won’t use one as a mag char. You’re meant to be clever and honestly you’re being so stupid about all this. You keep saying int this int that but it’s ALWAYS BEEN THERE so why didn’t you do what we all have and build for it? Is amoeba can manage with tiny int so can you.[/quote]
must be lower str jac.. int isnt the problem.. its the time u takin to kill the mobs is why ur gettin more damage.. probably
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]must be lower str jac.. int isnt the problem.. its the time u takin to kill the mobs is why ur gettin more damage.. probably[/quote]
"ISELIX"ZYAR has killed over 50,000 mags with 72 int


Hahahahaha


I dont know how many I've killed, but surely more than 20k :p And yes, on a low int char.

I even killed them on this char, with ONLY 43 int.

Its not impossible, just not easy :P
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[quote="YUKA"][quote="ISELIX"]ZYAR has killed over 50,000 mags with 72 int[/quote] Hahahahaha I dont know how many I've killed, but surely more than 20k :p And yes, on a low int char. I even killed them on this char, with ONLY 43 int. Its not impossible, just not easy :P[/quote]
Just do Mag runs with me Jack :D can use me as an Int shield haha :P we can split drops :P would likely mow them down :D geared up with weaken I bowl them over in 9-10 hits now :) FW makes mince meat of packs :P

Rejoice, mages!! We have a niche!!! xD
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[quote="CHOJINE"]Just do Mag runs with me Jack :D can use me as an Int shield haha :P we can split drops :P would likely mow them down :D geared up with weaken I bowl them over in 9-10 hits now :) FW makes mince meat of packs :P Rejoice, mages!! We have a niche!!! xD[/quote]

 

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