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[quote="DR_EVIL"]Firstly I understand they’ve just been made 25% faster recently, however 25% of next to nothing is still pretty much next to nothing. I really think they need either another 25% shaving off their HP or if possible (I have no idea) make them give more xp for the same HP they currently have. At 203 int I get .1 int a hunt if I’m lucky, this can’t have been the intention as melee can gain significantly more stats for the same time invested due to crazy new weapon attack and/or insane recoil that a lot of people have. I’m losing 100k a hunt while my melee counterparts make a mint I feel like I’m a level 80 again in terms of drops, in fact I might be better off then - so here I think it would be ideal to up the drop rate of upgrades, increase Barr drops significantly and maybe shave a little more HP off. I’d really like to cap this character but currently without x2 I won’t be doing any levelling, it is ridiculously slow and tedious - I thought about just capping Str but I’m a mage and quite frankly I don’t want to go above 200 Str as Int is my priority. So many mages I spoke to as I levelled through the mobs said everyone quits at Wasps and I always thought no way would I, but I really had no idea quite how bad they were - admittedly they’ve been made less bad but there’s still a way to go for 95% of sane people to consider them worth levelling through - especially in comparison to Trolls.[/quote]

[quote="MAZOKU"]this since the 20th, as theres a news post on front page saying that the edit to wasps ect was buged and has now been fixed ? [quote=]Finally there was a bug where the tweaks for Devil Deity, Valk Shaman and Necro Wasp HP didnt take effect. This should now be resolved.[/quote][/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]This is taking that into account, yea.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]Then you can’t be hunting right? I have taken a mage there with 210+ int and got 0.4 int in a hunt. If you want to use your best MA gear and your hunts are short due to SR’s then that’s your fault. Stick some NM robes on, get slow rings, heal rather than use HP pots and it’ll last a lot longer.[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]Lol gains are slow enough in MA/Int gear, I think I’ll pass. Also I have access to a fair few SR's and even when they run out its rare a guildy can't sort me out, so it's almost never an issue for me. :) My hunts are cut short due to pots running out 95% of the time, not because of SR's - I have no idea where you got that idea from tbh. Also I use slow rings.[/quote]

[quote="CHOJINE"]I am getting 25% a day atmo in 5 or so hours, they are pretty fast now tbh, kill them in 11 hits and each gives 0.04 / 0.05 exp. I use slow on each Wasp and wear slow rings to keep it up :) also use +100 MP pots, take 120 a hunt and pick up approx 80 +50 MP pots each hunt to use before I tp. Admittedly I am hitting them in a set / accys that add about 70 MA.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]I said if. You aren’t setting the scene for people to understand where you are going wrong. I don’t understand how you are only getting 0.1 per hunt? Do you use LS / SS? [/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]https://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=27436&title=Lowered+Mob+HP+&Page=1#post171498 Some extra info on here if you’re interested, all the gear I use to hunt etc. I’m not looking for advice from people as to where I’m going wrong - I’m fully aware of the trade-offs and I’m going for faster gains even if it is expensive, due to Wasps being incredibly slow even in full gear, pot run takes 5 mins max, that’s probably 0.2% or something. Yes level 4 spirit sword. This is a suggestion though, if you have relevant counter points then be my guest and add them but it seems like you’re just stating the obvious and telling me how to make things even more slow and tedious to save some Barr.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]Basically, you’re the only mage whose moaning about making wasps easier at them moment. I hunted before they were fixed and after they were fixed and it’s quite amazing that you’re still asking for it to be made easier. I have no suggestions because they should be left alone as they are. For a melee class trolls are actually slower to hunt now than wasps are and none of the melee chars are asking for it to be made easier. [/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]When do you ever really see any mage other than myself speaking up on issues on the forum? 9/10 I speak to in-game agree, admittedly I haven’t been on a great deal to speak to them since the changes but that has been the case in the past 100% - I will test them again today and come back to you, but I feel you’re just trying to be your usual toxic self here. I didn’t ask you for suggestions so that’s great, I struggle to believe that very much - I’ll get back to you though. :)[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]I’m honestly not being toxic at all here. Chojine has come out and said since the change they are much better and he’s seeing far more drops. I myself are saying they are far better and also getting more drops. There isn’t many active mages left ingame anymore apart from the ones who are hunting str now. What I’m trying to say is, soma is a grind game which is slowly being made easier and easier to accommodate people’s busy life styles which I’m sure you’ll agree is great. But you also need to leave it with some form of effort required. If you can only manage an hour or two a night then you’d expect it to be slow and hard going compared to someone who can sit for hours and hours on soma each day. Dan has made them easier to hunt which has brought it in line with what you’d expect the end game mob to be like,making it any easier would make it too quick and people would get bored and leave again.[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]OK fair enough Tyrese, I can’t argue with most of that. I will still do some comparative testing in noob melee gear and mid level mage gear (the best I have of both available to me for hunting) and come back with some numbers on that as I’m sure melee is still considerably faster - mainly due to the fact during a week of wasps being 100% quicker I still couldn’t get below 30% rested at Wasps and Melee chars buy rested pots (I have some I’ve had for a good 2 months as I can never use them sadly. So I don’t see how making them 25% quicker will fill the gap - but we will see on that as I don’t like going off guesswork/small sample sizes. Of course I agree Soma is a grind game, and also that it is good that things are having an effort made to be brought into line a little more - I’m just pretty sure mages are still at a significant disadvantage - I would love to be wrong here however I feel I’m not, and what worries me is if I am not wrong, in future patches it will be even worse for mages due to the precedent that has been set so far, but also lack of skill bonus, melee weapons numbers going absolutely crazy, new atk access but no new equiv magic access (well some but not all) - all of these are factors in levelling plus many more. Unfortunately I didn’t find the time to test anything yesterday but I will get to it, record it all and report back with my findings - as I said I’d love to be wrong here, I just doubt I am currently. I definitely don’t want it to be too quick, just not painfully slow either. [/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]Chojine out of interest is your MA set you’re talking about including or not including your staff’s MA?[/quote]

[quote="CHOJINE"][item post=172849 index=0][item post=172849 index=1][item post=172849 index=2][item post=172849 index=3][item post=172849 index=4][item post=172849 index=5][item post=172849 index=6][item post=172849 index=7][item post=172849 index=8]. This is what I hunt with, min is +70 ish max is a lot higher.[/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]I also as a melee char cannot burn my rested faster than I regains. I’m sat on over 50 large rested pots which I won as a prize. Bare in mind I have full 7% accu gear, a full eva set, 30+ in dex access, 2 x +5 troll rings, +5 otm, epic crit ear, a very fast bow (451 rec) and I was at one point playing about 6 hours per day. So I think in comparison melee chars also get a rough time of it. What I would do if possible for you is to buy blue pods which are dirt cheap and make a +5 set of armor (crafted shaman which can get like 4K dura) which is an option as a relatively cheap way to make int / MA armor.[/quote]