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[quote="DR_EVIL"]As someone who used to play sword (Musasji - now rotting away due to how bad dsoma sword has become) I think this would be a positive step to bringing it back into contention - I’m also confused as to how spear has gone from lower damage to swords to creeping above it (in weapon terms) when they have second aura they can cast every 5 or 8 seconds - I can’t remember exactly. Hsoma basically no one goes sword either because you may as well just use a spear and do the same damage as 5th and hit with 2nd and hit but way more frequently and have the extra 1 range (which is actually pretty huge when people run a lot) it won’t benefit me as I’m a mage anyway and I have no interest in playing dsoma sword due to how poor they are stat-wise, but it just seems kinda nonsensical tbh.[/quote]

[quote="LORD_GRIM"]The prob between axe, spear and sword will never go away it will simply be a whack a mole effect on buffs/nerfs with two out of three being unused. Spear got buffed coz it never saw use and when it topped axe in att values and has 2nd aura which bypasses eva/dex and hits 300+ dex bosses on an intelligent cd. I think the problem is not solely the attack values but also the auras and the cds with them, i would suggest lowering 4th auras cd alot to make them function similar to 2nd spear perhaps 10 sec cd or a cd reset as long as you hit a different target. Atm with 30-35 secs 4th are essentially for show or hope you catch someone afk or unprepared for a quick burst of damage. If 4th axe was buffed enough so that you could consider other upgrade choices it might help state of axe. Make it 500 recoil to fall in line with todays recoils but only for 2 handed, make it use the current recoil for 1 handed axes. I would also suggest seperating the attacking aura cds individually so that spear could use 2nd and 4th together and not have using one freezing the other, same for sword they should be able to drop 3rd, 4th, 5th in a rush combo, knucks 3rd, 4th, 5th etc. Axe should be able to 5th then chop someone down with 4th etc.[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]I don’t believe the problem will never go away, if approached in the correct manner - which I think it’s make sword have higher attack than spear like it was before, due to the fact 5th is more powerful but the CD is by far longer than the cooldown for second spear - axe is a different type of weapon entirely but I do agree if 4th axe was buffed then it would bring axe more into contention as a PvP choice due to being able to upgrade different aspects than just speed viably. Totally disagree with separating cool-downs myself but everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess.[/quote]

[quote="MAVERICK"]Every 2 handed wep should be range 2 I think. Most people stick with 1 handed sword and axe purely because you can use a shield. Someone with a +5 bulwark has like 20-30 more defense than a 2 handed wep with maybe 5-5 more attack. No brainer. /mav[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]As long as third and fifth axe stayed range 1 I agree tbh[/quote]

[quote="MAVERICK"]Then all auras should be the same?[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]Um, why? Lol[/quote]

[quote="CUPID"]-1 sword is fine, 5th hits harder than anything..[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]I assume you’re talking purely Hsoma, Stupid? Also of course it hits harder but the CD as stated is way longer than spears guaranteed hit, about 8x longer so that’s kind of a null point but I wouldn’t expect any less from you really.[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]After speaking to a few Mutiny/Outlawz guys I think maybe lowering the 5th sword cool-down timer would probably be a better option than buffing attack, then that would bring it back into contention more for bosses and PVP - as currently it’s clear spear is by far the better choice for both - hence the 20 odd spear users hsoma and maybe 2/3 swordie’s, numbers are probably similar on dsoma but smaller scale. 5th cool-down is currently 40 seconds or so I think, if that was brought down to 20 it’d probably be fair IMO. Or alternatively, maybe change second sword from the currently borderline non-existent HP regen, to a 5% evasion/accuracy or 50% of PD aura, if people think 5th is too OP currently.[/quote]

[quote="TONGSKIE"][quote="DR_EVIL"]As someone who used to play sword (Musasji - now rotting away due to how bad dsoma sword has become) I think this would be a positive step to bringing it back into contention - I’m also confused as to how spear has gone from lower damage to swords to creeping above it (in weapon terms) when they have second aura they can cast every 5 or 8 seconds - I can’t remember exactly. Hsoma basically no one goes sword either because you may as well just use a spear and do the same damage as 5th and hit with 2nd and hit but way more frequently and have the extra 1 range (which is actually pretty huge when people run a lot) it won’t benefit me as I’m a mage anyway and I have no interest in playing dsoma sword due to how poor they are stat-wise, but it just seems kinda nonsensical tbh.[/quote] +1 to this. Thank u for looking after me bro. :p[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]Anytime ;) fair is fair[/quote]

[quote="CYA"] 5th Sword was alot stronger, it got a big nerf it was 150% hit on 1 and 100% on 2 or 3, if 5th was still the same now I think everyone would be sword, If u had 300 attack 5th would be doing a 450 dmg burst which is OP as hell not complaining though, That big damage makes up for the crap gains for leveling with it I guess xD just saying like BTW xD [/quote]

[quote="NUCLEAR"]Thing is people still wouldn’t level with sword, they would just skill sword at cap. Does need s little buff imo though.[/quote]

[quote="SAL3M"]Pretty sure sword 5th is still 150% and the CD is more like 20 secs or so in d soma at least? Defo +1 to changing 2nd to eva/acc or weaker PD though - even with the buff 2nd sword is pretty useless. [/quote]