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[quote="DISCO_STORE"]I suggest next mage mob have same str as trolls but with lower def dex to make mages able to lvl str [/quote]

[quote="LORD_GRIM"]How low is your dex as a mage that you cant hit boars or blg?[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]I’ve been thinking of suggesting something similar, maybe not exactly this but a tank mage option to level str on as Trolls are ridiculous for us - I can’t think of how to actually make it viable/fair/worthwhile though tbh. Lord Grim dex mage’s have like 80-110 dex when at boar’s, generally 90-95 from speaking to other players.[/quote]

[quote="LORD_GRIM"]So how much str have they got? Surely you would be doing blg up to 171 at 93 def dex or 201 str for boars at 110 def dex. With acc or dex items can easily sink boars no?[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]Boar’s yes, trolls less so - it’s also the fact they have 175 offensive dex, they literally don’t ever miss us - which is why I think making a magic alternative wouldn’t be the best idea as it doesn’t really counter any of the issues (other than probably having lower defensive dex and us hitting them more). You need serious dex and accuracy sets to hunt Trolls with even 103 dex (what I have) m.[/quote]

[quote="LORD_GRIM"]Do mages end up with more than 201 str though as id be shocked if they had enough room for int. Boars and trolls being the same rate and all with no need to go trolls unless you had 201+? Yeah the off dex is extreme even i get hit pretty much every time, easiest to use a healer so you can hunt without having to leave for pot runs and can slow them if you dont have enough srs to sustain it. Prob with trolls is its assumed you are running full eva.[/quote]

[quote="DR_EVIL"]I’m level 116 with 204 str 212 int, so yea we have plenty of room for extra str after boar’s unless going after say 230 int. This is half the issue, melee barely get touched by them but we barely hit without mad acc and dex stuff, then the amount of sr’s you go through to actually have a semi-decent hit rate is absolutely ridiculous.[/quote]

[quote="LORD_GRIM"]Thats higher than i expected i thought mages would go full int and dex with the lower str option. The only potential issue i can see with the mage mob and its massive coz i myself would abuse this is that you would need to set the def dex of this int mob to 110 or so so you guys could hit it for melee stats and what that does is allows melee to bypass the def values of the next str mob or even trolls for easy stats. Atm trolls have 200 def so if we assume the next mage mob would also be given 200 def then thats ok but what youd have is melee going full att coz they dont need to wear dex items/acc to cap hit rate with a healer to ignore the int damage. For example i can bow down wasps with a healer, if you look at the traditional int mobs nm and up youll see they were given high def dex on purpose to prevent melee doing this (135 for nm, 145 valks, 150 wasps) I did like training on wraiths back on the day but im not sure how this can be balanced.[/quote]