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DAENAERYS	1)I was told the +50 stat bonus was removed after 84 str? So does that mean the players who were able to exploit this will be better off? Aslo the slow down at 84 str to 100 str is so depressing i bet that kills alot of players off Also noticed unbalance in PVP mages out do str/dex ? and they have dodge yet no m tag high end weapons and reflection only does one or two hits and you cant move or do anything while reflection is casted ? and all mages use 5th axe as well as dodge ? I love the current rates other than the current slow down i am facing it is do depressing. Would be cool if they added another 30 levels but it half the rates before in the increase. Like on esoma you had the high end players that grind but most people want to get strong fast so i do think having the rates at 3* to 120 then maybe do an extra 30 levels that are like esoma rates :P so you can get hardcore players like you did on esoma like fleshtuth savre, constiwoman etc that way high end players got items and the odd stength/dex or int to grind for ... With such a grinding game that's 20 years old and still standing i think the people isylver, finitio etc ...i am not sutr of the full team sorry.But you can see the hard work thats gone in to the game and as a returning player would love to support to game to move forward. obviously im sure plenty of people have suggest ideas. just as a new player this s my experience so far. Also another few ideas to baalnce out pvp -slow down the cast of lower cost spells increase the cast time for highr int spells new spells for str/dex builds: Ability to cast reflection with a high end m tag bow and be able to move etc new auras Accuracy auras as mages have stone and dodge New accessories PM Reply Quote [quote="DAENAERYS"]1)I was told the +50 stat bonus was removed after 84 str? So does that mean the players who were able to exploit this will be better off? Aslo the slow down at 84 str to 100 str is so depressing i bet that kills alot of players off Also noticed unbalance in PVP mages out do str/dex ? and they have dodge yet no m tag high end weapons and reflection only does one or two hits and you cant move or do anything while reflection is casted ? and all mages use 5th axe as well as dodge ? I love the current rates other than the current slow down i am facing it is do depressing. Would be cool if they added another 30 levels but it half the rates before in the increase. Like on esoma you had the high end players that grind but most people want to get strong fast so i do think having the rates at 3* to 120 then maybe do an extra 30 levels that are like esoma rates :P so you can get hardcore players like you did on esoma like fleshtuth savre, constiwoman etc that way high end players got items and the odd stength/dex or int to grind for ... With such a grinding game that's 20 years old and still standing i think the people isylver, finitio etc ...i am not sutr of the full team sorry.But you can see the hard work thats gone in to the game and as a returning player would love to support to game to move forward. obviously im sure plenty of people have suggest ideas. just as a new player this s my experience so far. Also another few ideas to baalnce out pvp -slow down the cast of lower cost spells increase the cast time for highr int spells new spells for str/dex builds: Ability to cast reflection with a high end m tag bow and be able to move etc new auras Accuracy auras as mages have stone and dodge New accessories [/quote]	#1 2019/10/30 11:59:38
DEAMOND	"DAENAERYS"1)I was told the +50 stat bonus was removed after 84 str? So does that mean the players who were able to exploit this will be better off? Aslo the slow down at 84 str to 100 str is so depressing i bet that kills alot of players off Also noticed unbalance in PVP mages out do str/dex ? and they have dodge yet no m tag high end weapons and reflection only does one or two hits and you cant move or do anything while reflection is casted ? and all mages use 5th axe as well as dodge ? I love the current rates other than the current slow down i am facing it is do depressing. Would be cool if they added another 30 levels but it half the rates before in the increase. Like on esoma you had the high end players that grind but most people want to get strong fast so i do think having the rates at 3* to 120 then maybe do an extra 30 levels that are like esoma rates :P so you can get hardcore players like you did on esoma like fleshtuth savre, constiwoman etc that way high end players got items and the odd stength/dex or int to grind for ... With such a grinding game that's 20 years old and still standing i think the people isylver, finitio etc ...i am not sutr of the full team sorry.But you can see the hard work thats gone in to the game and as a returning player would love to support to game to move forward. obviously im sure plenty of people have suggest ideas. just as a new player this s my experience so far. Also another few ideas to baalnce out pvp -slow down the cast of lower cost spells increase the cast time for highr int spells new spells for str/dex builds: Ability to cast reflection with a high end m tag bow and be able to move etc new auras Accuracy auras as mages have stone and dodge New accessories 1) Now that mobs have been given +50 bonus upto 84str players who didn't do +50 route won't have as good endagme stats. 2)84-100str slowdown is nothing, wait until you get to trolls. 3) Bit confused by your next sentence, mages don't have dodge - all mages are staff/axe 4) I think if this was proposed for 30 more levels with more grind than casual players they would have a disadvantage and be back at square 1 of not having enough time to level to compete. 5) Would love to see new spells/ Aura's 6) Honestly don't feel meele need anything more to compete with mages. 7) Recently had new accessories of troll rings which are still pretty damn hard to acquire along with WBS. PM Reply Quote [quote="DEAMOND"][quote="DAENAERYS"]1)I was told the +50 stat bonus was removed after 84 str? So does that mean the players who were able to exploit this will be better off? Aslo the slow down at 84 str to 100 str is so depressing i bet that kills alot of players off Also noticed unbalance in PVP mages out do str/dex ? and they have dodge yet no m tag high end weapons and reflection only does one or two hits and you cant move or do anything while reflection is casted ? and all mages use 5th axe as well as dodge ? I love the current rates other than the current slow down i am facing it is do depressing. Would be cool if they added another 30 levels but it half the rates before in the increase. Like on esoma you had the high end players that grind but most people want to get strong fast so i do think having the rates at 3* to 120 then maybe do an extra 30 levels that are like esoma rates :P so you can get hardcore players like you did on esoma like fleshtuth savre, constiwoman etc that way high end players got items and the odd stength/dex or int to grind for ... With such a grinding game that's 20 years old and still standing i think the people isylver, finitio etc ...i am not sutr of the full team sorry.But you can see the hard work thats gone in to the game and as a returning player would love to support to game to move forward. obviously im sure plenty of people have suggest ideas. just as a new player this s my experience so far. Also another few ideas to baalnce out pvp -slow down the cast of lower cost spells increase the cast time for highr int spells new spells for str/dex builds: Ability to cast reflection with a high end m tag bow and be able to move etc new auras Accuracy auras as mages have stone and dodge New accessories [/quote] 1) Now that mobs have been given +50 bonus upto 84str players who didn't do +50 route won't have as good endagme stats. 2)84-100str slowdown is nothing, wait until you get to trolls. 3) Bit confused by your next sentence, mages don't have dodge - all mages are staff/axe 4) I think if this was proposed for 30 more levels with more grind than casual players they would have a disadvantage and be back at square 1 of not having enough time to level to compete. 5) Would love to see new spells/ Aura's 6) Honestly don't feel meele need anything more to compete with mages. 7) Recently had new accessories of troll rings which are still pretty damn hard to acquire along with WBS.[/quote]	#2 2019/10/30 12:42:18
THE_D0N	with this new +50 route is it just the factor of up to 84 str then carry on the previous +50 route of shanis / blg's or has that part been scrapped? Not to sure on unbalancing mages v melee tho im a mage n i have to rely on having 100+ pots and 5th aura to get 1 cast in other wise char is redundant. If axe wasn't an option then i don't think you would see a mage. If you look at the blg scrap ( wont call a war because i didn't do much but pot ) 4 of them was mages with 1 bower but that's not an every day occurence your'll find more bowers hunting than you will mages, blg has more ppl in than i have ever seen at valks / wasp's. This is purely because not many people wanna take the damaged and go for the easy option. The old grind at nm's took a lot of mages of the map. now u can heal to 100 more melee stop at that purely because its 0% and they wasted % that some mages did from 0-100 ( when healing for int wasnt a thing ) couldn't exactly get free dex / str in the same way which unbalanced the older gen mages life. PM Reply Quote [quote="THE_D0N"]with this new +50 route is it just the factor of up to 84 str then carry on the previous +50 route of shanis / blg's or has that part been scrapped? Not to sure on unbalancing mages v melee tho im a mage n i have to rely on having 100+ pots and 5th aura to get 1 cast in other wise char is redundant. If axe wasn't an option then i don't think you would see a mage. If you look at the blg scrap ( wont call a war because i didn't do much but pot ) 4 of them was mages with 1 bower but that's not an every day occurence your'll find more bowers hunting than you will mages, blg has more ppl in than i have ever seen at valks / wasp's. This is purely because not many people wanna take the damaged and go for the easy option. The old grind at nm's took a lot of mages of the map. now u can heal to 100 more melee stop at that purely because its 0% and they wasted % that some mages did from 0-100 ( when healing for int wasnt a thing ) couldn't exactly get free dex / str in the same way which unbalanced the older gen mages life.[/quote]	#3 2019/10/30 13:10:37
ROCH	"THE_D0N"with this new +50 route is it just the factor of up to 84 str then carry on the previous +50 route of shanis / blg's or has that part been scrapped? It was my understanding that the +50 bonus is still active after 84 str, just everything actuall has to be +50 str above you to get it. End of super duper bonus - 84str BLG - 90str Hoarde Shanis - 104str BLG - 110str Hoarde Shanis - 124str BLG Forever. Above xNumber str = when to leave. PM Reply Quote [quote="ROCH"][quote="THE_D0N"]with this new +50 route is it just the factor of up to 84 str then carry on the previous +50 route of shanis / blg's or has that part been scrapped? [/quote] It was my understanding that the +50 bonus is still active after 84 str, just everything actuall has to be +50 str above you to get it. End of super duper bonus - 84str BLG - 90str Hoarde Shanis - 104str BLG - 110str Hoarde Shanis - 124str BLG Forever. Above xNumber str = when to leave.[/quote]	#4 2019/10/30 18:49:29
ROCH	"DAENAERYS" the slow down at 84 str to 100 str is so depressing i bet that kills alot of players off If you are complaining about the rate of STR on a triple exp event at such a low value then you're really going to have a hard time. "DAENAERYS" Also noticed unbalance in PVP mages out do str/dex ? and they have dodge yet no m tag high end weapons and reflection only does one or two hits and you cant move or do anything while reflection is casted ? and all mages use 5th axe as well as dodge ? Dont really see any mages using dodge. Most use 5th axe then swap to staff for the MA bonus. They dont tend to have good dex anyway as archers usually have so high a value of dex, they cant really dodge it anyways. Most opt for STR to mitigate damage. "DAENAERYS" slow down the cast of lower cost spells increase the cast time for highr int spells new spells Most mages use spirit sword or light sword so your really not going to do anything with those changes "DAENAERYS" for str/dex builds: Ability to cast reflection with a high end m tag bow and be able to move etc Accuracy auras as mages have stone and dodge Your going to be really hard pressed to find anyone in game who thinks that archers are hard done by in terms of PvP and need buffs. You could argue that range 1 characters have an issue, which would be a reasonable point, but range 1 chars have equal issue with archers who can just feather about. PM Reply Quote [quote="ROCH"][quote="DAENAERYS"] the slow down at 84 str to 100 str is so depressing i bet that kills alot of players off [/quote] If you are complaining about the rate of STR on a triple exp event at such a low value then you're really going to have a hard time. [quote="DAENAERYS"] Also noticed unbalance in PVP mages out do str/dex ? and they have dodge yet no m tag high end weapons and reflection only does one or two hits and you cant move or do anything while reflection is casted ? and all mages use 5th axe as well as dodge ? [/quote] Dont really see any mages using dodge. Most use 5th axe then swap to staff for the MA bonus. They dont tend to have good dex anyway as archers usually have so high a value of dex, they cant really dodge it anyways. Most opt for STR to mitigate damage. [quote="DAENAERYS"] slow down the cast of lower cost spells increase the cast time for highr int spells new spells [/quote] Most mages use spirit sword or light sword so your really not going to do anything with those changes [quote="DAENAERYS"] for str/dex builds: Ability to cast reflection with a high end m tag bow and be able to move etc Accuracy auras as mages have stone and dodge [/quote] Your going to be really hard pressed to find anyone in game who thinks that archers are hard done by in terms of PvP and need buffs. You could argue that range 1 characters have an issue, which would be a reasonable point, but range 1 chars have equal issue with archers who can just feather about. [/quote]	#5 2019/10/30 18:59:23
THE_D0N	"ROCH" It was my understanding that the +50 bonus is still active after 84 str, just everything actuall has to be +50 str above you to get it. End of super duper bonus - 84str BLG - 90str Hoarde Shanis - 104str BLG - 110str Hoarde Shanis - 124str BLG Forever. Above xNumber str = when to leave. thank for verifying :) PM Reply Quote [quote="THE_D0N"][quote="ROCH"] It was my understanding that the +50 bonus is still active after 84 str, just everything actuall has to be +50 str above you to get it. End of super duper bonus - 84str BLG - 90str Hoarde Shanis - 104str BLG - 110str Hoarde Shanis - 124str BLG Forever. Above xNumber str = when to leave.[/quote] thank for verifying :)[/quote]	#6 2019/10/30 20:20:31
SYONIDE	just to note the 110-124str at shanis is not on +50 stats just timewise is faster than blgs at that point PM Reply Quote [quote="SYONIDE"]just to note the 110-124str at shanis is not on +50 stats just timewise is faster than blgs at that point[/quote]	#7 2019/10/31 05:42:14
ROCH	"SYONIDE"just to note the 110-124str at shanis is not on +50 stats just timewise is faster than blgs at that point Yep, good point. Clarifying that further; both BLG and shanis fall into the same STR bracket at that point, so the gains will be identical experience wise. It's just far easier to hunt shanis than BLG so that's the reason for the suggested switcheroo. PM Reply Quote [quote="ROCH"][quote="SYONIDE"]just to note the 110-124str at shanis is not on +50 stats just timewise is faster than blgs at that point[/quote] Yep, good point. Clarifying that further; both BLG and shanis fall into the same STR bracket at that point, so the gains will be identical experience wise. It's just far easier to hunt shanis than BLG so that's the reason for the suggested switcheroo.[/quote]	#8 2019/10/31 11:33:43
CHOPTIMUS	To simplify it Hunt any mob before 84str aslong as it's above your str.. Go hoarde shanis at 84str to 90str Go BLG till 90str Go to hoarde shais till 104str Go to BLG till 110str Go to Hoarde Shanis to 124str Then back to BLG to 171str For the 50+ bonus PM Reply Quote [quote="CHOPTIMUS"]To simplify it Hunt any mob before 84str aslong as it's above your str.. Go hoarde shanis at 84str to 90str Go BLG till 90str Go to hoarde shais till 104str Go to BLG till 110str Go to Hoarde Shanis to 124str Then back to BLG to 171str For the 50+ bonus [/quote]	#9 2019/10/31 16:07:27
SAPPER	after 84 str for max str you can hunt Blg / Drazil to 85 BLG to 91 Apus / elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 98 elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 100 hoarde / drazil / blg to 105 drazil / blg to 106 blg to 111 Apus / elm / hoarde/ drazil / blg to 118 elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 120 hoarde / drazil / blg to 125 drazil / blg to 126 Blg to 131 Apus / elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 138 elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 140 hoarde / drazil / blg to 145 drazil / blg to 146 blg to 156 apus /elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 158 elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 160 hoarde / drazil / blg to 165 drazil / blg to 166 blg to 171 PM Reply Quote [quote="SAPPER"]after 84 str for max str you can hunt Blg / Drazil to 85 BLG to 91 Apus / elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 98 elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 100 hoarde / drazil / blg to 105 drazil / blg to 106 blg to 111 Apus / elm / hoarde/ drazil / blg to 118 elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 120 hoarde / drazil / blg to 125 drazil / blg to 126 Blg to 131 Apus / elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 138 elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 140 hoarde / drazil / blg to 145 drazil / blg to 146 blg to 156 apus /elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 158 elm / hoarde / drazil / blg to 160 hoarde / drazil / blg to 165 drazil / blg to 166 blg to 171 [/quote]	#10 2019/10/31 19:11:20
H4WKEYE	Can somebody clarify this for me please? So is it as you hit -50 the bonus stops or right until you hit -49 (because you're technically still 50 below) The last 2 posts in this contradict each other? Also from my limited knowledge of dsoma the xp gains actually only stop as you hit +31 rather than +30 which would probably support sapper post more than chop? Thanks PM Reply Quote [quote="H4WKEYE"]Can somebody clarify this for me please? So is it as you hit -50 the bonus stops or right until you hit -49 (because you're technically still 50 below) The last 2 posts in this contradict each other? Also from my limited knowledge of dsoma the xp gains actually only stop as you hit +31 rather than +30 which would probably support sapper post more than chop? Thanks[/quote]	#11 2020/03/28 08:46:47
KAT	"H4WKEYE"Can somebody clarify this for me please? So is it as you hit -50 the bonus stops or right until you hit -49 (because you're technically still 50 below) The last 2 posts in this contradict each other? Also from my limited knowledge of dsoma the xp gains actually only stop as you hit +31 rather than +30 which would probably support sapper post more than chop? Thanks We are told up to 84 str u can hit any mob and get same gains. After 84 str go blg to 90 str (blg have 140 str so 50 above you max bonus) Stay blg until 171 str After 171 do whatever mob u like for drops There is or was also a +30/+10 bonus i think others can clarify this PM Reply Quote [quote="KAT"][quote="H4WKEYE"]Can somebody clarify this for me please? So is it as you hit -50 the bonus stops or right until you hit -49 (because you're technically still 50 below) The last 2 posts in this contradict each other? Also from my limited knowledge of dsoma the xp gains actually only stop as you hit +31 rather than +30 which would probably support sapper post more than chop? Thanks[/quote] We are told up to 84 str u can hit any mob and get same gains. After 84 str go blg to 90 str (blg have 140 str so 50 above you max bonus) Stay blg until 171 str After 171 do whatever mob u like for drops There is or was also a +30/+10 bonus i think others can clarify this [/quote]	#12 2020/03/28 09:25:58
CHOJINE	You can hunt any monster up to 84.0 strength or intelligence as long as you aren’t more than 10.0 strength / intelligence above the monster. After that the +50/30/10 bonuses apply. Maximum intelligence bonus is +30. PM Reply Quote [quote="CHOJINE"]You can hunt any monster up to 84.0 strength or intelligence as long as you aren’t more than 10.0 strength / intelligence above the monster. After that the +50/30/10 bonuses apply. Maximum intelligence bonus is +30.[/quote]	#13 2020/03/28 14:49:31

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